Super User Hookemdown. Posted September 2, 2008 Super User Posted September 2, 2008 YEAH BABY! Gee, I wish I had some trash talk to throw around here somewhere, but my Ag's lost. . . to these guys!! :'( I listened to the game the radio. I honestly couldn't believe it, as ASTATE isn't even the best team in the Sun Belt. I wish they could play like that in conference. They had a "welcome home" parade at approximately 2:30am in the morning. My uncle was at the game and called me after the last INT. He was ecstatic. It's being called the greatest victory in program history. ;D ARKANSAS STATE RED WOLVES = BEST WINNING PERCENTAGE IN NCAA with a 100% winning percentage. ;D Maybe they should have changed their name earlier. Quote
Jaheff Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 One word for UCLA=NORM CHOW Is he gonna make UCLA into a powerhouse like SC? Third string qb. WOW!! Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 2008 NCAA Football Rankings - Week 1 (Aug. 31) SEC: 6 out of 12 teams 2007: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 5 out of 12 teams & the Championship 2006: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 5 out of 12 teams & the Championship 2005: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 5 out of 12 teams 2004: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 5 out of 12 teams 2003: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 5 out of 12 teams & the Championship 2006: NCAA Football Final Rankings SEC: 4 out of 12 teams No the SEC aint dominate Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 Yep, 2008, #18 Tennessee falls to another weak Pac 10 college, by the way, 10-6 the last 16 meetings against the weaker Pac 10. Then South Carolina makes it into the polls by beating NC State. 5-7 last year. South Carolina gets there because of their 5 straight losses last year or because of Spurrier and he's got his defense back this year? Which he had most of his defense back last year as well and where did that get him? Or is it, every year SC is so dominate in the SEC? LOL I'll say Alabama is improved at this time, but i did say Clemson wasn't a number 9 team with 4 new starting offensive linemen. And how did the two heisman canidates run behing that line? How many voters does the south have compared to other regions? Theres your bias in the polls. Care to share the number of southern votes? Just because its printed don't make it true. Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 Yea the PAC 10 a win every once and awhile over the SEC but how many teams from the PAC actually get rated other that USC? In 2008 none Or how many BCS Championships have the PAC 10 won? That would be 1 Or how many PAC 10 teams have actually played in BCS bowls other than USC? That would be 6 and they are 3-3 Y'all pick on the bottom of the SEC why not compare the top SEC teams like LSU they are 11-2-0 vs the PAC 10 Quote
Fisher of Men Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 One word for UCLA=NORM CHOW Is he gonna make UCLA into a powerhouse like SC? Third string qb. WOW!! Don't get your hopes up, Hookemdown. I listened to part of the game on the radio as well, and we laid down in the second half. I'm not taking anything away from your Red Wolves, but we are not near as strong as Aggie teams of the distant past. Can you say "re-build"? Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 The term 'rebuilding' has no place in College Football. That's a cop-out. You've either got a good team or you don't. Rebuilding takes place when you can draft players, trade players, cut players and sign free agents.....as in the NFL. Not slamming you FOM, but the term 'rebuilding' gets slung around way too much in college ball. Quote
RiskKid. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Carl, Sorry about your Vols last night. Great respect for Tenn playing the likes of Cal two years and opening up against UCLA this year Hookem Thanks Matt....tough loss for us, it said on paper we should have won but thats why they play the games....great coaching job by the UCLA staff to make the 2nd half adjustments they did.......Wish we'd just open against Michigan from now on ;D Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 The term 'rebuilding' has no place in College Football. That's a cop-out. You've either got a good team or you don't. Rebuilding takes place when you can draft players, trade players, cut players and sign free agents.....as in the NFL. Not slamming you FOM, but the term 'rebuilding' gets slung around way too much in college ball. I would agree to a certain extent except when you get a new coach. Those aren't the players he recruited for "his" program. For example look at Michigan. Compare Carr's offenses to the offenses Rodriguez had at WVU. Especially the style of QB. Rodriguez is trying to run his offense with Carr's players and it doesn't look like it's going to be pretty for a while. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 Lets talk contenders since 2002. no need to bring Vandy, Miss St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, South Carolina into the picture. Works better if you don't. This way we take the top 7 teams, and gues what. Ya'll put your pants on like the rest of the country. Not showing the normal cream puffs that 99.9% of the time equals a "W". Just non conference games and bowl games in meaningful conferences. Ala. in 2002 10-3 lost to OU 03 4-9 lost to OU 04 6-6 lost to minn 20-16 05 10-2 Beat T.tech 13-10 06 6-7 lost to Okla, st. 34-31 07 7-6 lost to FSU and beat Colorado Alabama has been 2-5 in bowls and good non conference foes Ark. 02 9-5 beat Boiste State lost to Minn. 28-14 03 9-4 beat UT 38-28 lost to Mizzou 27-14 04 5-6 lost to UT 22-20 05 4-7 lost to USC 70-17 06 10-4 lost to USC 50-14 lost to Wisconsin 17-14 07 8-5 lost to Mizzou 38-7 Arkansas has been 2-7 Aub 02 9-4 lost to USC 24-17 Beat Penn St. 13-9 03 8-5 lost to USC 23-0 lost to Georgia Tech Beat Wisc. 04 13-0 beat Va. Tech 16-3 05 9-3 lost Georgia Tech23-14 lost to Wisconsin 24-10 06 11-2 beat Wash st. beat Neb. 17-14 07 9-4 Beat KSU 23-13 lost to South Fla26-23 beat Clemson Auburn has been 7-6 Fla. 02 8-5 lost to UofMia 41-16 lost to FSU 31-14 lost to Michigan 37-17 03 8-5 lost to UofMia 38-33 lost to FSU38-34 lost to IOWA 37-17 04 7-5 beat FSU lost to Miami 05 9-3 beat FSU beat Iowa 31-24 06 13-1 beat FSU and Ohio STATE 41-14 07 9-4 lost to Michiagan 41-35 Florida has been 5-8 Georgia 02 13-1 Beat FSU 26-13 03 11-3 Beat Purdue 34-27 04 10-2 Beat Wisc. 24-21 05 10-3 Beat Bosie State48-13 lost to WVU 38-35 06 9-4 beat Colorado 14-13 beat Va tech 31-24 07 10-2 beat Okie State 35-14 beat Hawiaa 41-10 Georgia has been 8-1, notice their big games outside has been in bowls primarily. FSU, Purdue, Wisc, only test was bowl game. LSU 02 8-5 lost to Va Tech, 26-8 lost to UT 35-20 03 13-1 beat Ariz. 59-13 beat OU 21-14 04 9-3 beat Org. St. 22-21 lost to Iowa30-25 05 11-2 beat Ariz. St. 35-31 beat the Canes 40-3 06 9-4 beat Ariz 45-3 beat Notre Dame 41-14 07 12-2 beat Va Tech 48-7 and OSU 38-24 LSU has been 9-3 Tenn 02 8-5 lost U of miami 26-3 and lost to Maryland 30-3 03 10-3 beat UofM 10-6 and lost to Clemson 27-14 04 10-3 lost to Notre Dame17-13 beat aTm 38-7 05 5-6 06 9-4 beat Cal35-18 lost to Penn State 20-10 07 Lost to Cal 45-31 Beat Wisc. 21-17 Tenn has been 4-6 SEC has been 37-36 using Bowl games and better out of Conferences. Counted Clemson, Boise State. Univ. of Miami, Florida State Say what you want, but as I have said, When they schedule meaningful games outside their conference, they are one game above 500 since 2002. And that 37-36 record don't include Miss. St, Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, which would add some losses to that already impressive dominating record over other foes of 37-36. Adding to this, only 3 of your 7 teams have winning records against outside opponents. Auburn , Lsu, and Georgia who don't go outside the box as much. That leaves Ark, Alabama, Florida, Tenn with loosing records against other foes. Hookem Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 The term 'rebuilding' has no place in College Football. That's a cop-out. You've either got a good team or you don't. Rebuilding takes place when you can draft players, trade players, cut players and sign free agents.....as in the NFL. Not slamming you FOM, but the term 'rebuilding' gets slung around way too much in college ball. I would agree to a certain extent except when you get a new coach. Those aren't the players he recruited for "his" program. For example look at Michigan. Compare Carr's offenses to the offenses Rodriguez had at WVU. Especially the style of QB. Rodriguez is trying to run his offense with Carr's players and it doesn't look like it's going to be pretty for a while. I understand what you're saying but switching a coach does not constitute a 'rebuilding' year. He's playing with the cards he's been dealt and he knew that going in. He can't trade any of them and he can't sign free agents.....if he could, then he could call it a rebuild......getting new pieces and parts to fix something that is broken. A new coach 'builds' a team for his tenure there and what he wants to accomplish. That cannot be done in one year unless he gets a whole class of freshman studs. He might recruit Johnny Halfback but Johnny Halfback is still in high school. It may take the coach 2, if not 3 seasons before he sees Johnny run on the field. Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 The term 'rebuilding' has no place in College Football. That's a cop-out. You've either got a good team or you don't. Rebuilding takes place when you can draft players, trade players, cut players and sign free agents.....as in the NFL. Not slamming you FOM, but the term 'rebuilding' gets slung around way too much in college ball. I would agree to a certain extent except when you get a new coach. Those aren't the players he recruited for "his" program. For example look at Michigan. Compare Carr's offenses to the offenses Rodriguez had at WVU. Especially the style of QB. Rodriguez is trying to run his offense with Carr's players and it doesn't look like it's going to be pretty for a while. I understand what you're saying but switching a coach does not constitute a 'rebuilding' year. He's playing with the cards he's been dealt and he knew that going in. He can't trade any of them and he can't sign free agents.....if he could, then he could call it a rebuild......getting new pieces and parts to fix something that is broken. A new coach 'builds' a team for his tenure there and what he wants to accomplish. That cannot be done in one year unless he gets a whole class of freshman studs. He might recruit Johnny Halfback but Johnny Halfback is still in high school. It may take the coach 2, if not 3 seasons before he sees Johnny run on the field. Agreed. That being said a school like A&M should have enough just based on talent alone to beat ........ ???? ..... who ever they lost to ;D Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 We don't rebuild, we reload ;D Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 Agreed. That being said a school like A&M should have enough just based on talent alone to beat ........ ???? ..... who ever they lost to ;D FOM, I wouldn't take that if I were you. Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 3, 2008 Super User Posted September 3, 2008 All Time Conference Rankings #1 SEC #2 Big 10 #3 Big 12 #4 Pac 10 #5 ACC All Time Conference Rankings by Strength of Schedule #1 Big 10 #2 SEC #3 Independent #4 Big 12 #5 Ivy League #6 Pac 10 #7 ACC All Time Conference Rankings by Major Bowls #1 SEC #2 Big 12 #3 Pac 10 #4 Big 10 #5 ACC Quote
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