Skrub help!

[.dsaavedra.]

hopefully someone can help me out here...

i was fishing a * today with a 4/0 Gamakatsu G-Lock EWG hook, and it was really difficult to hook the *. the body is so thick and short, i couldnt rig it right, it would always curl up on the hook.

so what size and type of hooks are you guys using on a *?

[Raul]

A shakey jighead.  :

[.dsaavedra.]

i thought about that, but then i remembered i didnt have any  : and i was fishing in very thick cover, so i needed it weedless.

[Raul]

Ok, so you don 't have a shakey head jig, got any jigheads with oversized hooks ? 3 or 4/0 ? you can rig the * weedless with those, it 's just like T-rigging a worm.

[.dsaavedra.]

Ok, so you don 't have a shakey head jig, got any jigheads with oversized hooks ? 3 or 4/0 ? you can rig the * weedless with those, it 's just like T-rigging a worm.

the only jig heads i have are 1/4oz arkie style heads (with fiber weeed guards).

i dont really wanna put it on a jighead though, because i like the slow fall of a weightless *. would a 2/0 hook be a better choice than a 4/0?

[Bassin_Fin@tic]

If your looking EWG try the Owner Ewg plus hook.Great for those "fat"baits'.

I havent used a * but I got the gist of what you are saying.If I had a pack this would prob be the 1st hook i'd try.

[Brian_Reeves]

The * (and just about every other DT skirted grub) is best fished on a jighead with the hook exposed.  The fiberguard is a great choice.  That's how I generally fish them.  

But you have a couple of options.  You can try the www.jigfish.com TitleShot jighead found on that site.  That's a GREAT jighead for any soft plastic.  I really need to place another order.  Anyway, it's not super "weedless" but it will get the job done in a lot of cases.

The other option is downsizing your hook.  A 4/0 hook is pretty big for a *.  When I T-Rig them, I go with a 2/0 or 3/0 EWG Gamakatsu or Owner hook.  A pegged/flordia rigged weight in 1/8-1/4 is a good choice for weights.  Same goes for jighead weights.  The * will fall much slower than most soft plastics, even with a little weight to it.  I've never tried them weightless.

As far as fishing them goes, I just slow roll them most of the time, but they work GREAT as a flipping/pitching lure or crawled on the botten with a football head.  Hope this helps.

[Brian_Reeves]

Oh, and one more thing.  If you wanna keep using the 4/0 hook, you're going to have to make sure the hook pierces straight through the plastic.

Hook the front like you normally would and feed it up to the hook eye, just like starting any texas rig.  Then when you re-insert the hook point in the lower half of the body, make sure that the hook goes STRAIGHT through the plastic.  That will help out a little bit.

[.dsaavedra.]

thanks brian! that helps a lot!

[Brian_Reeves]

Anytime.

*** are one of my confidence baits.  I actually need to order more if I can get a break with these stupid bills.  

I keep several different types of skirted double tailed grubs.  I always have *** on hand.  Right now I have green pumpkin purple, I think it's called.  I'm going to get watermelonseed next time.  I also have black and blue.  The other type of double tailed skirted grubs I have are watermelonseed and cinnamon purple Bass Pro XPS double tail grubs.  I keep these on hand because they have a smaller profile.  They are a finesse presentation for me.

Most of my * fishing is swimming the lure around structure or over shallow-mid grass.  If that pattern dies off or if the bite is tough on a general day and they are willing to take the bulkier *, sometimes the XPS grubs will pull through.  All in all I like the larger *** better because they draw a little better quality.

I think that's everything I know without going into too much details that I think you already know.

[.dsaavedra.]

this may sound dumb, but you rig it skirt forward right? thats how i was rigging it.

[Brian_Reeves]

Yeah, I rig it skirt up, tail down.  This allows the skirt to parachute on the fall, slowing the bait down tremendously.  The skirt will collapse when you're swimming it and poof out when you stop it.  It looks interesting in the water which is why fish hit it.  I think that most strikes are curiousity strikes.  "Can I eat it or not?  What the heck is it?"....MUNCH!

[Raul]

The * (and just about every other DT skirted grub) is best fished on a jighead with the hook exposed. The fiberguard is a great choice. That's how I generally fish them.

But you have a couple of options. You can try the www.jigfish.com TitleShot jighead found on that site. That's a GREAT jighead for any soft plastic. I really need to place another order. Anyway, it's not super "weedless" but it will get the job done in a lot of cases.

The other option is downsizing your hook. A 4/0 hook is pretty big for a *. When I T-Rig them, I go with a 2/0 or 3/0 EWG Gamakatsu or Owner hook. A pegged/flordia rigged weight in 1/8-1/4 is a good choice for weights. Same goes for jighead weights. The * will fall much slower than most soft plastics, even with a little weight to it. I've never tried them weightless.

As far as fishing them goes, I just slow roll them most of the time, but they work GREAT as a flipping/pitching lure or crawled on the botten with a football head. Hope this helps.

Brian, for God 's sake, there 's no "best", have you actually tried to fish them rigged in another fashion than impaled jighead and exposed hook ? there are tons of ways to rig a soft plastic bait, I dropshot double tail skirted grubs and they also work, impale the bait on a standup jig weedless and they are deadly, wacky rig them along the mid line and insert a jighead without the hook on the skirted side to wight them and they also deadly.

[Brian_Reeves]

The * (and just about every other DT skirted grub) is best fished on a jighead with the hook exposed. The fiberguard is a great choice. That's how I generally fish them.

But you have a couple of options. You can try the www.jigfish.com TitleShot jighead found on that site. That's a GREAT jighead for any soft plastic. I really need to place another order. Anyway, it's not super "weedless" but it will get the job done in a lot of cases.

The other option is downsizing your hook. A 4/0 hook is pretty big for a *. When I T-Rig them, I go with a 2/0 or 3/0 EWG Gamakatsu or Owner hook. A pegged/flordia rigged weight in 1/8-1/4 is a good choice for weights. Same goes for jighead weights. The * will fall much slower than most soft plastics, even with a little weight to it. I've never tried them weightless.

As far as fishing them goes, I just slow roll them most of the time, but they work GREAT as a flipping/pitching lure or crawled on the botten with a football head. Hope this helps.

Brian, for God 's sake, there 's no "best", have you actually tried to fish them rigged in another fashion than impaled jighead and exposed hook ? there are tons of ways to rig a soft plastic bait, I dropshot double tail skirted grubs and they also work, impale the bait on a standup jig weedless and they are deadly, wacky rig them along the mid line and insert a jighead without the hook on the skirted side to wight them and they also deadly.

Umm...I'm really not sure how to take that seeing as how I just described 3 different ways to fish them other than "impaled jighead and exposed hook.

I guess I should have added "IMO" behind best or something...my god man.  I've fished them with just about every rig there is, just like I do all of my soft plastics and a jighead of one variety or another seems to produce the best for me.  1/4oz weight, now that I check my notes.

So yeah...my mistake...I guess :-? :-?