ejtaylor822 Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 There's protesting, then there's just being an outright disgraceful disrespectful scumbag. Using the funeral of someone who made the ultimate sacrifice to give others the right to protest is the latter of the two. Quote
guitarkid Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Don't worry. The American Legion Riders usually show up to keep the peace with the protesters. Nothing violent. Just some nice vets on their Harleys being nice to everyone as us old retired or discharged military types are at all times. We're called the Patriot guard Riders. You don't need a Harley, they also use cars (known as cagers). Anyone can participate, it's all about honoring the fallen hero and protecting their families from possible protesters through NON-VIOLENT means. Basically, if protesters show up, they are blocked off from view of the family with American flags and their chants are drowned by the revving of the motorcycle engines. pretty moving and the least we could do for these families. I think I might sign up. -searoach Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted March 30, 2008 Super User Posted March 30, 2008 SFC_AL i don't know how you do it,i don't think i could handle that. You definely have a stronger mindset than i do.I really really respect that. I'm going to have to x2 that. Al, you and your brothers have done more for this country and ME than anyone else ever will. It goes to show how great you guys really are when you are not outraged when someone that you are fighting for does something like this. It truly amazes me. We are blessed to have people like you looking out for us. Quote
fishbear Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 OK here I sit... in a metal box in Iraq called a CHU... its 8X18 and thank god its got air, I deal with violence EVERY SINGLE DAY I am here... I am the Battle NCO for a Brigade... so every IED, EVERY Small Arms event, EVERY Accident, Everything comes to me... I SEE IT ALL.. I have seen little girls shot because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, I have seen miracles where my guys SHOULD be dead after an IED but walked away with a concussion and that is it. I have seen vehicles that got blown up and the soldier in it was FUSED TO THE FREAKING BODY OF THE VEHICLE... I haven't seen my family in going on a Year... I live EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY knowing that at ANY TIME they can mortar me.. right here.. in this metal box... or while I am walking to the latrine.. they can at ANY MINUTE drive a dump truck filled with home made explosives to my gate and blow the hell out of my camp.. and an explosion that size WILL effect the whole fob even if just to break windows... EVERY DAY I walk around with a weapon WITH ammunition in case they try and sneak in and I can "show them the way out"... Every night I go to sleep I do so knowing that there is someone less than a mile away from me that would love nothing better than for me to not wake up in the morning...so ask me if I think they have the right to protest these funerals? ABSOLUTELY!... so I think its the most low down nasty disgusting thing in the world? ABSOLUTELY... that is why I love the Patriot Riders... they have the right to protest the protesters.... I have been to too many funerals... too many... and what would I do if I went to one and they were protesting? .... nothing.. like I did at the last one... I will not lower myself to their level... I will remember my brother with respect and HONOR... not by kicking the crap out of some moron that doesn't understand ONE WORD of what I have just typed... thank god there are those that get it... AL Quote
Top Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 SFC_AL i don't know how you do it,i don't think i could handle that. You definely have a stronger mindset than i do.I really really respect that. I have been accosted, accused and generally abused over this war and my choice of profession.. as IF I make policy... I had a guy literally put his car ON the front bumper of my car because my car has bronze star license plates and I was in uniform... when I asked him why he did that he come up to me chest to chest and attempted to provoke me to hit him... I knew what he was doing... so I called 911 and told them they had 5 minutes to get to the walmart parking lot because if they took 1 minute longer than that I was going to defend myself... I told the dispatcher what was going on and that they had BETTER send a squad car... they did.. and the guy tried to get the cops to arrest me for assault.. LOL... luckily the lot kid (guy that collects the carts) at walmart came out and told the cops they have been watching the entire thing from their secuirty camera and they were all willing to testify that the guy assaulted ME... and then told the cop that if I had clocked the guy then they would have testified on my behalf too.. after they ran the guy off the cop told me next time he will wait for the 6th minute *sigh* I could just see the headlines "crazed war vet loses it at walmart and puts poor defenseless war protester in the hospital"... but once in a Bar in Norway... well that is another story.. lets just say I gave him a WHOLE new understanding in turning the other cheek... the guy literally told me we had no right to go into Afghanistan and that we shouldn't have done anything over the WTC. I just about had enough to drink to where I reached across the table.. pulled him within 4 inches of my face and I punched him in the forehead.. not TOO hard but enough to leave a NICE red mark... then I asked him... what you gonna do NOW? hehehehehee he got my point and left REAL quick... but that is why I don't drink LOL... I get in trouble... but this is just a couple of stories of the IDIOTS... I could tell you 100X more stories of the GOOD THINGS folks have done to show me appreciation for my choicees. but I have to say I do like this saying: I don't agree with a word you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire Quote
frogtog Posted April 3, 2008 Author Posted April 3, 2008 They laid SGT David Williams to rest today and everything went smooth. There is not about 9,000 people in this town and most were there. And I just can't say enough about the Patriot Guards, they were a sight to see escorting the funeral procession. The whole service put me in awe, this was the first military funeral I have ever been to. Once again I would like to say Thanks SGT David Williams. RIP Quote
Troutfisher Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Very glad to hear it went by respectfully and peacefully. After reading all of these posts about the Patriot Guard Riders, I have to say that's probably the most awesome thing ever. Those wackos came here to West Virginia when the miners were killed at Sago back in January of 2006. Death threats were all around them, only a few showed. Those people absolutely sicken me. There is a fine line to having an opinion and disrupting the sanctity of other people at the most hardest time, a funeral. > Quote
TruflShufl Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 If you guys aren't familiar with them I highly suggest googling Westboro Baptist Church. If reading what's in this thread upset you, wait til you read what's on their website. :-/ Unbelievable... Quote
Top Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 They laid SGT David Williams to rest today and everything went smooth. There is not about 9,000 people in this town and most were there. And I just can't say enough about the Patriot Guards, they were a sight to see escorting the funeral procession. The whole service put me in awe, this was the first military funeral I have ever been to. Once again I would like to say Thanks SGT David Williams. RIP HONOR, RESPECT, TRADITION... yes a Military Funeral is something that is totally amazing to see if you ever saw one y9u would know what I am talking about... I hope I NEVER have to go to another one though Glad the funeral went off smoothly.. but I really wasn't worried about it. AL Quote
Davis Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 One of my friends just lost both his legs in a roadside bomb right before Easter. He is back in the states now recovering but they still don't know the extent of brain damage. His wife is due to have there second child next week. The reason I say this is because there are people that were protesting this young troops journal pages and local news stories online. You think people would have a heart during times like this.....but there selfish and go off to puff themselves up. It's darn right rude and disrespectfull if you ask me. Glad to see things went well. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 If you guys aren't familiar with them I highly suggest googling Westboro Baptist Church. If reading what's in this thread upset you, wait til you read what's on their website. :-/ Unbelievable... WoW.....This is their pastor...Guess he doesn't know God hates him too.He should keep his mouth shut too because he doesn't know a darn thing.Little does he know he's hating the very thing he loves. He's forgetting one of the biggest things god gave us..."free will".If anything he can B n' M to god for giving us that "free will" to choose. Quote
Super User Alpster Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 I am a proud member of the PGR! Ronnie Quote
Troutfisher Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 My level of respect, as high as it already was, just rose higher for you Ronnie. LBH, I didn't know you also were a member? Very cool. I was telling my friend about you guys today. Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 These folks commited, if not a legal then a moral act of treason . They also showed a total disrepect to a family in distress . Quote
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