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I just saw this last night on an Burn Ointment package at work;

WARNING MAY CAUSE BURNING SENSATION

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But now - days after a jury here awarded $2.9 million to an 81-year-old woman scalded by McDonald's coffee - some observers say the defense was naïve.

Hmm, so you didn't read my post either?

I already stated that the original award was for more than $2 million (I think I put $2.4 so I was off a bit).  However, McDonald's NEVER paid that amount.  On appeal, the award was reduced to something like $640K and then they settled for what was reported to be an amount LESS than that.  So, the final payment was for LESS than a million dollars.

As I said, you should probably look up the details of the case before you come to any conclusions.  

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Lalalalalalalalalalal your serve.

Since it's quite obivous that you won't take the time to read what I post, I'll pass.  

But good luck on that law career.   ::)

Guest muddy
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The judge eventually ordered both sides to mediation. They reached a sealed deal, the actual amount of the settlement was never dislosed publicly, as terms of the agreement. Any actual cash value put to it is pure speculation.

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The judge eventually ordered both sides to mediation. They reached a sealed deal, the actual amount of the settlement was never dislosed publicly, as terms of the agreement. Any actual cash value put to it is pure speculation.

Ok seriously.  Let's get this straight once and for all.

The jury awarded $160K in compensatory damages and $2.7 million in punitive damages.  The trial judge lowered the punitive damages to 3 times compensatory damages or $480K.  Both sides appealed.  Then they settled prior to the appeal being heard.  That amount is confidential but has been reported to be less than $600K.

All of this information is public knowledge for those willing to search for the truth rather than jump to conclusions based upon biased news reporting designed to sell papers.

Guest muddy
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The judge eventually ordered both sides to mediation. They reached a sealed deal, the actual amount of the settlement was never dislosed publicly, as terms of the agreement. Any actual cash value put to it is pure speculation.

Ok seriously. Let's get this straight once and for all.

The jury awarded $160K in compensatory damages and $2.7 million in punitive damages. The trial judge lowered the punitive damages to 3 times compensatory damages or $480K. Both sides appealed. Then they settled prior to the appeal being heard. That amount is confidential but has been reported to be less than $600K.

All of this information is public knowledge for those willing to search for the truth rather than jump to conclusions based upon biased news reporting designed to sell papers.

My researh was done at the e college library at UOP, and I only used peer reviewed articles I also di an archive search at the Wall Street Journal and both sources had information that co incided, where are you getting your info from. This is not to doubt but i would like to read them. I am doing a paper soon on the topic " Problems with obtaining trusted information via the Web" and I find these differnces both helpful and curious

Thanks Muddy

My paper is being done on researching information in the field of economics. I have already found trusted and respected sources with conflicting information. Not so much as in the hard facts but in the interpatation of facts, pretty scary when we depend on this research to back up our papers :-/

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My researh was done at the e college library at UOP, and I only used peer reviewed articles I also di an archive search at the Wall Street Journal and both sources had information that co incided, where are you getting your info from.

Your information was only missing the point that the judge had lowered the punitive damages amount to 3 times actual/compensatory damages.

Here are two articlesfrom the wsj discussing the reduction.

McDonald's coffee award reduced 75 percent by judge, Wall Street Journal, September 15, 1994.

McDonald's settles lawsuit over bum from coffee, Wall Street Journal, December 2, 1994.

Here is a law school handout that is well sourced:  

http://www.law.depaul.edu/students/curriculum/assignment_fall_06/landsman_torts.pdf

Guest muddy
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Thanks TY, same article in WSJ, but the original dollar amount wasn't clear. thats the kind of things i need for the paper.Sorry to hijack the thread, but that was really some of what I am looking for.

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but that was really some of what I am looking for.

I'm the one who hijacked it in the first place so don't feel bad about hijacking my hijack.  

I need to learn to better restrain myself.  :-[

Guest muddy
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This ones pretty good. ;D

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That means you can't use it yourslef

  • Super User
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When i was little,i could never figure out why there was a warning(federal punishment) on mattress for removing the tag from it.

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        -searoach

Are you laughing because your offline?

No, That was a point and laugh at the one above my post,About the non-inflated PFD

                   -searoach

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When i was little,i could never figure out why there was a warning(federal punishment) on mattress for removing the tag from it.

i still cant figure that out  :-? :-[

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How about the warning on the package of Preperation H suppositories--

"Remove foil before insertion"  OUCH- who tried that one??

  • Super User
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When i was little,i could never figure out why there was a warning(federal punishment) on mattress for removing the tag from it.

i still cant figure that out :-? :-[

i was watching a show (cant remember it, wish i could!  ) and it said that the reason they stick those tags on there is to cover up holes and other blemishes on the mattress that come from shipping and handling. it said if you rip them off once you buy the mattress "a swat team won't come swooping down on you" but you will probably find a tear on the mattress.

really wish i could remember what show i saw that on. probably something on discoverey channel.

  • Super User
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Real reason behind that mattress tag.Kind of an interesting read.

Removing mattress tags has been a source of a great many jokes. Until recently, most mattress tags contained the bold statement that removing the tag was illegal and punishable by law. This may have frightened some children who actually ripped off mattress tags, but the warning was never meant to apply to people who had actually purchased a mattress.

Concern arose in the early 20th century regarding the materials used to make mattresses. Some of the materials could contain a host of nasty chemicals or materials that easily conducted illnesses or harbored pests like body lice. As such, the US government sought to address this by requiring manufacturers of mattresses to place mattress tags on their wares, clearly defining the contents of the mattress. Thus consumers could make an informed choice and steer clear of mattresses stuffed with dangerous materials.

However, listing the materials meant that some mattresses would simply not sell, because of their materials. This led to new US laws, which not only required mattress tags but also were stamped in bold letters with the message Do not remove under penalty of law."

However, many people were actually not aware the law was intended for mattress dealers, hence the jokes began regarding people serving hard time for removing mattress tags. Finally, enough public concern arose in the last decade to change to the message so it was clear a consumer could remove the mattress tags without suffering FBI raids or possible unknown imprisonment for committing this serious crime.

It is important, for a consumer to look at mattress tags since they give one pertinent information. First, if the mattress tags have been removed, it's difficult to ascertain the filling components of the mattress. Second, an unscrupulous dealer might attempt to resell a used mattress as new. If the mattress tags are removed, it's fairly clear someone previously owned the mattress.

Even though the laws prohibiting mattress dealers from removing mattress tags sound unbelievably grim on the actual tag, few states actually conduct mattress inspections to assure that tags remain in place. However, as a consumer, conducting your own inspection can help you find the best mattress. Once it is delivered, feel free to gleefully remove all mattress tags without fear of criminal prosecution.

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