Broken Fin Fishing Fools

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey Fellas As I posted on the 16th my addiciton has been in check for 15 years a day at a time, for this I am grateful.I have another disease and I havent been taking care of it and it's kicking my azz right now:ADULT ONSET TYPEII DIABETES. 3 years ago I was uncontrollable and was on massive doses of insulin,my vison and heart were slightly damaged I ALSO WEIGHED 439#### YIKES!!!!!!!

I had a Bariatric bypass and as the weight came off the diabetes was not an issue. I went from 439 to 193!!!!!!! But that was too much weight loss and they worked me back to 225, where I was at last summer. NOW SINCE SCHOOL AND THE INSANE WORK SCHEDULE KICKED IN , AND THIS IS ALL MY DOINGS I BEEN EATING CANDY, CAKE,WHITE BREAD,RICE AND RAISINS, as if I don't have it anymore. I am up to 239 and my sugars have been over 150 (normal 90-110) I wernt to see the DOC

THE PLAN: I need to loose 24 lbs, and go back to eating like I am a diabetic. He put me on a Med that helps my body absorb insulin better and works in another area of hormone bio feedback, He was pretty optimisitc that I can live Med Free agian in as little as 3 months, then the rest is up to me HOLD ON I JUST DROPPED MY SNICKERS BAR ON THE KEYBOARD

I can't make excuses and do what I want. I've been cavin in to the pressure of school,bad car, child support and a very enjoable but taxing job. Truthfully I have to tell you guys this is a lot easier than 15 years ago homeless and dope sick all the time. I have to keep my gratitude together, finish school and things are just beautiful in my life!!!!!!

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Watch your diet silly!!

Sounds like this one was avoidable, time to crack your whip on yourself and display some of that discipline that you obviously have.

Shame on you.

[Guest avid]

Gee,

I'm real sorry to hear that.

I'm going to feel sooooooooooooooooooooooooo guilty when I order that chocolate cake for dessert :-*

[skillet]

It seems like when the STRESS level starts rising for some folks (myself included ), it becomes a race between how fast the stress rises or the self control drops and they feed off each other. You've done it before, do it again! Take back the control ...

                                               As Ever,

                                                Skillet

[PaparockArk]

Hey, Muddy, I understand. Before the onset of my neurological disease, I lifted freeweights at a place called the Iron Jungle and was 235lb. with low body fat. At 6' 5 that was good but with the side effects of the disease, all the medications, and a couch potato existence I am now a Type II diabetic and 338bs. Now I also have arthritis in my right knee from having it reconstructed from an ACL injury while playing basketball years ago so even walking long distances is a challenge. So far, I have started increasing my energy output and I am down from my highest weight of 349 but as the younger ones will find out, as you get older the pounds come easier and leave harder. Even in my Late 40s, I remember the good old days when I could drop 20lb. easy. Now they about drop me to lose them, as you well know Muddy. My blood sugar is in control with metformin.  I have purchased a bowflex and some good walking shoes but biggest help is my wife has found a new help for her diabetes from a new prescription drug called Lantus (http://www.lantus.com/default.aspx) and it has done wonders for her as she was on two types of insulin injections with her blood sugar still out of control. It has greatly helped her get her blood sugars under control and her eating, as she is a quantity eater. In one month she has lost 15lbs. and her blood sugars have gone from an average in the mid 200s to the low 100s and her eating is totally in control which also brings mine in line, thank God. This is working so well I thought I would pass on the information for others to talk to their own doctors if they are dealing with the same problems of Type II Diabetes. Like any drug, it is not for everyone but for some it could change your life.

One day at a time Muddy_Man.

[Guest the_muddy_man]

tHANKS fELLAS: YEA IM ON A NEWER DRYG CALLED JUENEA IT EFFECTS HOW MY CELLS ABSORB THE INSULIN AND ANOTHER HORMONE MY LIVER USES FOR GLUCOSE MGMT DOC IS PRETTY SUE IF I LOOSE THE 24 LBS AND PAY ATTENTION TO MY DIET WITH THIS PRODUCT I CAN LIVE MED FREE AGAIN IN 90 DAYS

[Fatman1267MM]

I know how you feel Muddy, I have been fighting mine pretty hard lately.  I hadn't been paying attention and had been eating what I wanted (the stress thing) and my average was over 300.  The doc chewed my butt.  Have since started back on Amaryl and watching what I eat and have been getting my sugar down between 100 and 180.  But as soon as stress and frustration creep back in I know I will have a fight on my hands.  I have been as big as 330 lbs and am now back down to 275 lbs.  One thing I have noticed is that my legs feel alot better when I watch my sugar, but I am easily irritable.  How do you guys deal with the stress and agravation without letting it affect your sugar?  It's kinda funny, I've been diagnosed for 3 years now but have watched family members deal with it for 25 years and I still don't have the willpower to really stay at it.

[Guest the_muddy_man]

I have kept my sugars at 100 for a month now, The hardest thing is no pizza,white bread or white rice. I do have the ocassioanl small portion of Macaroni I DON"T WANNA LOOSE MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE ITALIAN CLUB AFTER ALL

[Guest avid]

I DON"T WANNA LOOSE MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE ITALIAN CLUB AFTER ALL

Somehow I don't think that will ever be a problem.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Nope,...and it's a good thing because God knows the Irish sure don't want him,.... ;D ;D ;D

[PaparockArk]

I have kept my sugars at 100 for a month now, The hardest thing is no pizza,white bread or white rice. I do have the ocassioanl small portion of Macaroni I DON"T WANNA LOOSE MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE ITALIAN CLUB AFTER ALL

Since my wife and I are both type II diabetics we have totally switched to brown rice. Now I was not sure about the whole deal but I actually like the taste better and it is better for you so some changes but then I am Irish and English so I don't have to worry about that whole Italian thing other than I have an Italian daughter-in-law which is a whole different kettle of fish!

[fish-fighting-illini]

This will be affecting my time on the water but it is not my health issue. My time on the water is the least important thing at this point.

My real reason for posting is an awareness thing as this disease gets mis-diagnosed a lot.

The disease our daughter has ( Gastroparesis) not too many people have heard of. I'd kind of like to get the word out for people to watch for it as it gets mis-diagnosed a lot. Basicaly your stomach nerve doesn't work right so you throw up everything including water, medicine etc that you take by mouth. The food should leave your stomach probably in 1hr ( ? ) or less. If it does not you get really sick due to all the excess fluids getting sent to your stomach to break down the food.

The first time recently this happened was in Jan right after the 2nd college semester start. It took 1 1/2 months ( mostly in the hospital) to get it straightened out. She dropped out of college and seemed ok untill Mid July then it came back again. One week hospital stay and all good to go again. Last sat night it came back again and she is still in the hospital. They've now resorted to a feeding tube and a special iv just to help settle her stomach down.

Their is a simple test to diagnose it. The test involves getting x-rays at x min intervals after you eat a few bites.

We've asked to have her sent or looked at by a Gasto specialist in Chicago. It will be 3hr trips to visit etc but we want to try to get this solved not just treated.

She was due to start college last monday and had to drop out ( again). As a result you have to wrorry about losing health insurance etc. My work will sell us insurance for $300 / mo for 3 yrs so at least we can go that route.

The next time the issue of affordable heatlh insurance for all comes up you might look at it in a different light, I know I will.

[PaparockArk]

Welcome, W1-10, to our group! There are all types of injuries many of us have suffered through life both physical and psychological.  Being a police officer in today's world takes a lot of courage and for that I salute you. It is extremely hard on relationships also. Two of my brother-in-laws have been police officers on Houston PD in Texas. A 2nd cousin is a Texas Ranger that to learn how to walk again after working undercover in drugs and a buy went bad with him taking multiple hits close to his spine. I myself worked drug suppression in the Army but that is nothing compared to the daily carnage in human tragedy you have to deal with not just physically but emotionally. I know the emotional toll working drug suppression took on me and that was only a year. Average people too easily forget not all wounds can be seen and sometimes those wounds take the longest to heal. If you did not care you would not have become a police officer or cared how the things you see and must do are affecting you. Reaching out to others and especially forming relationships with others that are not fellow police officers helps not get that us against the would feeling. I know that is the tendency for police to only socialize with police because only they can understand and accept me but that is not true. There are many of us out here that are more than willing and able to understand that have the capability to be a close friend that will be there any time for you. Anytime you need, feel free to contact any of us by PM or email, and find more fishing buddies in your area because you can never have too many friends!

[fish-fighting-illini]

Kid update.

 Home and eating liquids only for a while but beats being fed by a tube.

The long term future is still up in the air but maybe the Chicago specialist will have some ideas.

 At least we are not driving back and forth to the hospital every night not to mention all the worrying.

 The effects on the daughter are a lot more than we have to deal with anyway so we can get through it.

[PaparockArk]

Kid update.

Home and eating liquids only for a while but beats being fed by a tube.

The long term future is still up in the air but maybe the Chicago specialist will have some ideas.

At least we are not driving back and forth to the hospital every night not to mention all the worrying.

The effects on the daughter are a lot more than we have to deal with anyway so we can get through it.

I sure hope and pray she gets better soon. It is hard watching those we love suffering and we feel so helpless to make them better. I will remember you and yours in my prayers!  

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Welcome, W1-10, to our group! There are all types of injuries many of us have suffered through life both physical and psychological.  Being a police officer in today's world takes a lot of courage and for that I salute you. It is extremely hard on relationships also. Two of my brother-in-laws have been police officers on Houston PD in Texas. A 2nd cousin is a Texas Ranger that to learn how to walk again after working undercover in drugs and a buy went bad with him taking multiple hits close to his spine. I myself worked drug suppression in the Army but that is nothing compared to the daily carnage in human tragedy you have to deal with not just physically but emotionally. I know the emotional toll working drug suppression took on me and that was only a year. Average people too easily forget not all wounds can be seen and sometimes those wounds take the longest to heal. If you did not care you would not have become a police officer or cared how the things you see and must do are affecting you. Reaching out to others and especially forming relationships with others that are not fellow police officers helps not get that us against the would feeling. I know that is the tendency for police to only socialize with police because only they can understand and accept me but that is not true. There are many of us out here that are more than willing and able to understand that have the capability to be a close friend that will be there any time for you. Anytime you need, feel free to contact any of us by PM or email, and find more fishing buddies in your area because you can never have too many friends!

Well said Papa, and very true.  Your support and insight on this thread are fantastic, thanks from all.

FFI- How is this nerve malfunction treated?  What did they do that allows her to be at home and off the tube?

[fish-fighting-illini]

P_Rock   thanks for the words

LBH

 That is kind of a $64 question. Euyrithramiacin (sp?) tends to work by IV during flare ups but it takes 3-5 days to kick in and didn't seem to take hold this time. They tried Botox injections ( like back in January ) to the nerve and still didn't seem to help. The feeding tube itself kind of did the trick.  It worked once before as a kid when we didn't know what she even had. It bypasses your stomach thus the body doesn't dump acids in the stomach to breakdown food. This allows the irritation to go away.

So far so good for now, seeing the 2nd level specialist in Chicago on the 10th of Oct. I don't think there will be any miracles but we can always hope and pray.

[skillet]

 "we can always hope and pray" X2...

                           As Ever,

                            skillet

[fish-fighting-illini]

 Latest kid update.

We saw the advanced level specialist 200 miles away in Chicago on Monday. It was an eye opener to say the least. His first words were  "not to trash the doc's you've seen but the diagnosis you've been given is the biggest B.S. diagnosis on the planet".  He also said that the test that they use to conclude this disease is   " a B.S. test as well and generaly poorly performed."  LOL He had balls that's for sure!

Long story short is he wants to aggressively attack her problem in the first hour that she starts to develop symptoms rather than wait untill she gets reallly sick and ends up in the hospital. The medicine he suggested is one already tried but has only been tried after she is in the ER not proactive.

They asked if she wanted to join their research study that Mayo Clinic and Northwestern among several others are doing. That would take many fairly expensive trips to Chicago so .....?

 She has been doing well since Sept 1'st ( knock on wood ). She did have a surprise gall bladder attack since then and they removed it. No one is sure if this can be related to her other problem or not but only that time can answer that.

He also said that the Botox injections that had been done so far were "uncalled for and useless for your problem"  Like I said he's got balls.

 I'm not totaly convinced that this will work but you know it's atleast a plan. Better than "see you in the E.R. next month!"

Skillett,

I never did properly thank you ( that I remember anyway),

thanks for the support

"we can always hope and pray" X2...

                        As Ever,

                        skillet

[skillet]

 Seriously, "Thanks" are always appreciated but kind of unnecesary in this part of the forums. All of us here have been sitting in the same boat at one time or another. I'm just glad this Dr. seems proactive instead of waiting to see what happens next...

                                       As Ever,

                                        skillet

[PaparockArk]

I'm glad to hear the report of a proactive new doctor fish-fighting-illini and I pray for daily improvement.  It is always amazing to me how new specialists can come to such totally different conclusions as I have been through that several times myself. The last test they ran on me was a spinal tap (I hate those) that went to the Mayo Clinic because they have some new test that cost me $28,000 that told me my last specialist was all wrong on his diagnosis of my still un-determined nerve disease.  Now they know one more it is not but still don't know exactly what is killing the nerves in my body. I am not sharing that as a woe is me but to say medicine is not an exact science but that it is great to know you have a doctor that is trying to actively find things to help and not waiting to just treat attacks.  What works wonders for one person may not help another but to find out what works you often have to try many variations before finding the right combination. My doctor still does not really know what exact disease I have but had the intelligence to keep trying different combinations of drugs that are supposed to treat nerve disease and listened to me when I told her how they were affecting me. We tried different combinations and dosages till now finally after five years I am at the most stable, have the least pain, and highest satisfaction of life I have had since my first major attack ten years ago (with no major attacks also).  It may take some time, frustration, heartache, tears, and a lot of prays but your daughter and your family will come through this. There are many people holding all of you up in their thoughts and prayers for both support and healing.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Selfish request-  Looks like I have another migraine cluster starting up.  Please keep me in your prayers, I can't afford to miss any more work.  The pain, I can handle, the eviction,....not so much,lol

non-selfish request- A very good friend of mine has a g/f that is just the cat's meow.  She had a tumor about 10 yrs ago, on her liver.  Dr.'s went in and removed it but there was a root growing off of it that embedded in the wall of her heart.  They removed the tumor but the piece of the root in the wall could not be removed for fear of collapsing the heart wall.  They gave her 10 yrs.  It's been 10.5 and she is starting to have difficulty again.  Now, normally I wouldn't ask but both of these people are as good as they come.  If anyone deserves our prayers, it would be these folks.  Please keep us all in your thoughts and prayers.  Although I have not known them for very long, these 2 people are very special to me and very deserving of our prayers.

Thanks guys.

[skillet]

LBH,

 Wouldn't worry about the first request being selfish, the second canceled anything like that out. Thoughts, hopes and wishes to you and your friends...

                                    As Ever,

                                     skillet

[PaparockArk]

LBH, prayers for healing and renewal on the way for all!

[fishfordollars]

I guess I qualify. Last 36 months I have had 5 neck surgeries, 1 rt. shoulder, and a diagnosis three weeks ago with cervical dystonia. The dystonia originates in the brain ganglia that causes MS and Parkinsons but is treatable. I am still fishing one to three days a week. I am 6'0" and weigh 170. Lost 38 pounds during the last three years. I do not intend to let this hamper me and intend to continue my life for the forseeable future. I forgot I am 58 . My doctors have told me that the fishing has probably done more to help me than most of the medicine and surgeries. You must stay active and have an interest in anything to keep your spirits up. I still fish our 12 club tournaments each year along with any qualifying championship tournaments. I still fish 6-8 other tournaments each year, just cut back on the long distance traveling. I fish every weekend and usually several days during some weeks.