Broken Fin Fishing Fools

[PaparockArk]

Can you say why it was removed from being a "Sticky"? It was a support group for members with varying degrees of disabilities to make contact, support each other, share ideas about medications that work for them, maybe get together to fish, and to encourage each other. The posts to the group came in spurts and clusters many times separated by long pauses but it was on the front page where new people with like problems could see there were others available for them to contact and get support. I just don't understand why suddenly it was removed from being a Sticky. It's not that the owner of this site cannot do what he wants, it just that after it has been there for so long and so many have used it; I don't understand why it was suddenly removed as a Sticky.

[jrhennecke]

Let's keep Avid in our thoughts and prayers, for he will be missed here and perhaps they will reach him to encourage him to return if for no other reason to participate in this section of the forum. He started this support thread and I wish him the best in whatever he now chooses to do.

I never had a chance to meet or talk to Avid as he quit this forum just as I had joined.  Aside from Diabetes and a little High Blood Pressure I don't really have anything that keeps me from fishing.  I think Avid was very courageous as well as many of those who have contributed to this thread.  By reading some of the testimonials in this thread I hope Avid realizes how much he has helped some of these members.  I also hope that some of the members that know and were friends with him will keep this thread going until hopefully Avid decides to rejoin us.  As for me I think I am going to make a doctors appointment and get myself back on my medication.

[PaparockArk]

As we all grow older jrhennecke, things happen. You saw a lot of my posts as Paparock early own and I along with others are still around if you need support.  I have gout, high blood pressure, diabetes, and a demyelinating nerve disease that after ten years the specialists have not determined exactly what it is. At my first specialist thought it was MS, my second thought it was toxic poly neuropathy and my present one says we may never know exactly what it is but just try to control the symptoms. We all have to live life each day as it comes with some better than others. I am the last member of my immediate family left alive even my sister three years younger and my first cousin also three years young have died. My grandfather died at age 60 from lung cancer, my father died at age 60 from a combination of colon, liver, and pancreatic cancer; my sister died at age 45 from the most virulent form of breast cancer and I have already had one lymph node with pre-cancer cells removed and an extremely large colon pre-cancel polyp removed. I say all this not for sympathy because it will do me no go, but to tell others we all must use the time we have because there is no guarantee of tomorrow. I am going to be 59 this December and no one knows how long I have on this earth. I may not see my birthday and I may be here thirty years. We all should plan for the future as if we are going to see our great-great-grandchildren but live each day to the fullest as if each day might be our last. That way nothing gets left undone no matter what happens.

While Avid, Muddy, and I all came here around the same time there are others who you read about on this thread that will gladly reach out a helping hand or lend a shoulder any time you need it.

[jrhennecke]

P_Rock Ark I agree with everything you said and appreciate the kind tone of the reply.  I don't want to make this sound as if I am feeling sorry for you because I don't want to be disrespectful.  However please know that as a fellow fisherman and human being in general I hope that you will be around for another 30+years.  I have spoken to muddy as he reached out to me when I joined this forum and was very supportive. A quality individual for sure.  I think this thread touched me because of my Grandfather and Father.  My Grandfather loved to fish and golf.  Prior to his retirement he had a stroke and was paralyzed.  He has since passed.  There were no support mechanisms for him and to be honest I don't know if he would have reached out.  My father has severe diabetes and all the things that go with it.  He still fishes but I know that it gets hard for him sometimes.   You and Avid and the others did a wonderful thing with this thread.  I don't know if I will ever be able to get my father to utilize this but I will try. Again thank you.  

[WIII-60]

I'm not sure why I'm compelled to posts this but here goes:

Last night the guy I ride with and I are headed down 71 HWY to meet up with some of the other guys I work with to see what some of the dope dealers are doing in the hood. We see this road rage incident going down ahead of us. One driver is more or less trying to run another driver off the road, or at least making it look like he's going to. Either way, what he's doing is dangerous and out of line. We decide to pull him over. He exits the highway, comes to a stop, waits for a minute, rolls backwards towards us as he tries to put his car in gear, then takes off. We stay with the car, but maintain a safe enough distance so that we're not "involved." The helicoptor is moving in to keep this car in sight and call out directions. We start to back off so that the helicoptor can pick it up. This guy was easily doing 80+. This is on city streets. Downtown streets. He runs 5 red lights, clips a car at an intersection, loses control of the car, hits a light pole and is ejected at some point, head-ons a dumpster. The whole thing went about 10 blocks and lasted maybe a minute or so.

He died. The passenger lived. The people in the car he clipped lived (a lady, her boyfriend, and a child). Really no one had any major injuries except him.

I'm not sure what it was medically that killed him, but his body had contorted in ways that a body is not designed to. When he came to rest, he was basically wrapped around what was left of a parking meter.

The light pole he hit had pieces later found a block and a half down.

All that for what? When we got up to him he gurgled a little and died. It's ironic that the last people he's with on earth were the last people he wanted to be with.

The weird thing though is that we stopped another car tonight, another drunk, at the same place where this whole thing started. This guy just pulled over and owned up to the choices he made.

Two roads diverged in a wood I guess..........

[PaparockArk]

Thank you, jrhennecke, for your kind words. Please do not hesitate to PM me about anything and or post to this thread. Please mark it on your favorites since it has been removed as a sticky.

[PaparockArk]

I'm not sure why I'm compelled to posts this but here goes:

Last night the guy I ride with and I are headed down 71 HWY to meet up with some of the other guys I work with to see what some of the dope dealers are doing in the hood. We see this road rage incident going down ahead of us. One driver is more or less trying to run another driver off the road, or at least making it look like he's going to. Either way, what he's doing is dangerous and out of line. We decide to pull him over. He exits the highway, comes to a stop, waits for a minute, rolls backwards towards us as he tries to put his car in gear, then takes off. We stay with the car, but maintain a safe enough distance so that we're not "involved." The helicoptor is moving in to keep this car in sight and call out directions. We start to back off so that the helicoptor can pick it up. This guy was easily doing 80+. This is on city streets. Downtown streets. He runs 5 red lights, clips a car at an intersection, loses control of the car, hits a light pole and is ejected at some point, head-ons a dumpster. The whole thing went about 10 blocks and lasted maybe a minute or so.

He died. The passenger lived. The people in the car he clipped lived (a lady, her boyfriend, and a child). Really no one had any major injuries except him.

I'm not sure what it was medically that killed him, but his body had contorted in ways that a body is not designed to. When he came to rest, he was basically wrapped around what was left of a parking meter.

The light pole he hit had pieces later found a block and a half down.

All that for what? When we got up to him he gurgled a little and died. It's ironic that the last people he's with on earth were the last people he wanted to be with.

The weird thing though is that we stopped another car tonight, another drunk, at the same place where this whole thing started. This guy just pulled over and owned up to the choices he made.

Two roads diverged in a wood I guess..........

I understand where you are coming from. As the platoon leader of the Drug Suppression Platoon 1971-1972 on Okinawa in the US Army I had a twofold duty; first to identify and catch drug offenders and then to oversee the security of the drug ward at the military hospital. Believe me; I witnessed a lot of turnarounds and tragedies of the human experience during that time long ago.  I saw people make huge miraculous recoveries but I also the depravity a human can sink to were my men and I had to take human life to save others lives. Humans go through life and the one thing each and every one of us has to do that defines us and the life we live as well as how it will end is the choices we make. So often we make choices so casually without realizing just how life changing or ending they can be but only each of us are responsible for our own choices. Only we can change our own choices. Like facing disease we can choose to be mad and bitter at the world, God and take it out on everyone around us and everyone we meet and I am sure we all have met those types or we can choose to meet it as something that happens, a challenge, and live life to the fullest while we are here.

My sister is an inspiration to me. Let me tell you about my beautiful sister. She was three years younger than me and died at the age of 45 from one of the most virulent forms of breast cancer. Her name was Pam and most women that went through the life she did would have turned very bitter and mad but not Pam. She was beaten and abandoned by two different husbands that also cheated on her. Pam was five feet nine, blonde, with a figure to die for that did charity modeling in Houston, Texas besides her normal corporate headhunter job. The cancer ravaged her body and her looks but what did my beautiful sister do? She reached out to other women going through what she was, teaching them makeup tips, fashion tips and encouraging them. On the night she died in the hospital as I was about to leave because I had to go to work early the next morning, she took my hand,  smiled, and said It's OK Bubba, I'm going to get to see Dad before you do. She died that night at the age of 45. What defines us are the choices we make in life. My sister made AWESOME choices in how she reacted to the bad things that came her way in life while so many around her made such bad ones and hurt her so badly. Like I said, my sister is my inspiration!!!

[PaparockArk]

Since, I am the one that named this group, can I take over un-official sponsorship of the group until Avid comes back? Is that ok with the groups members? This group is my principle reason for being active here so if I can be of any help to anyone please contact me.

Re: Political/Regious posts

Reply #7 - Feb 24th, 2007, 8:01pm

PapaRock.

Glenn has made it clear that you are not banned.

On behalf of the broken fins fishing fools - the name you suggested if you recall, please reconsider your decision to withdraw.

you could choose a similar name P_Rock - sounds so hip hop it would fit you to a tee (LOL)

Anyway, I just thought you should know that I have had several PM's from broken fins expressing dismay over your departure. You are one of the foundations of our community within the community.

If you can reconcile yourself to Glenns new posting paradigm then I urge you to re-join.

You are missed.

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best.

Sincerely,

avid

[fish-fighting-illini]

P_Rock

My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family on the loss of you sister. It is even harder now knowing what a wonderful person she was. Man this world lost a good one!

My prayers to you and your entire family.

FFI - AKA Matt Crum

[WIII-60]

Anybody who is reading this that didn't read the original thread, click the link and take the time to read it. There's a lot of backstory there.

[PaparockArk]

P_Rock

My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family on the loss of you sister. It is even harder now knowing what a wonderful person she was. Man this world lost a good one!

My prayers to you and your entire family.

FFI - AKA Matt Crum

Thank you for your kind words, my sister was truly special. Her son and I are the last of our imediate family now. Major illnesses and cancer have taken the rest even those far younger than I am. It's easy to wonder why sometimes but then like my sister, and my father I know they were ready and at peace with dying. My family has always been different about the fear of dying. When my father passed all the nurses in the cancer ward marveled at his calm, peace, and the expression left on his face after he died. I lost my fear back in 1972 on Okinawa (long story). It's easier when you can stay or go and be happy about it either way.

[Guest muddy]

Hey Fellas : It's been a while since I was here, on this thread. Rocky asked for me to come back here, and so here it is. This is not a bellyaching sesson, actually I am very grateful for my life now, I have a wonderful Mate in Elaine, a job a love, 2 courses from finally getting a degree at age 57 and a wonderful daughter from a previous wife.

I was an active drug addict for 27 years, it took everything I hit bottom after using IV then becoming homeless . Some fellas who i used to get loaded with found me and by the Grace of God they got me to a 12 step program and now i have 15 years and 10 months clean! I am eternally grateful to God, the program and these men. TYhey took me fishing between meetings in the begining and that is how fishing came back into my life.

When I got cleaned up it was discovered that I had very severe diabeteses and as my time clean progressed i blew up to over 400 lbs in 5 years, and I had a Bariatric Bypass 5 years ago and now the diabetese is controled without meds and I weigh in at 225 now.It could have been worse as i somehow did not get Hep C or AIDS and that in itself is a miracle!

So life is good now, I fight depression constantly. I can not taked meds for it, my brain and body do not know the difference anymore between medication and fun! All my surgeries ( 4 of them) have been done with Motrin once i got home from the hosp. I have a great support network and my frinds and Elaine know when i am on a downward slide and help me snap out of it. You guys see it and don't know it , but its when I get to be an a##Hole on the boards. Russ has helped me greatly during thes times. So i guess I am not only a mook I am also a member of the BROKEN FIN CLUB!

Again this is out of gratitutde and a request from Rocky to repost my story, I really have a blessed life now fellas.

[Gone_Phishin]

God bless Muddy.  Thanks for sharing.

[PaparockArk]

Thanks so very much Muddy!!!

I am blessed because I have for lack of a better description a "guardian" who has watched over me since I was a small child. You may call him my "Guardian Angel" if you wish or not, but my point here is that both Muddy and I, though we have traveled different paths have come to the same place in life. He is blessed, so am I, and if this group or any of its members can be of a help to you please do not hesitate to post or just send a personal message to a member.

We have members that care and have walked in your shoes so if you need a caring heart that has suffered pain I can share mine and so can members just like Muddy that know what it is like to be limited by illness or additions of many types. Family members are also more than welcome to join in as you are just as affected as those with illness and addiction. You don't have to tell about your problems if you don't want to. We are just here to help and for support. We are here for this forum's members and their families because we care.

[jrhennecke]

Muddy, I am glad you decided to share your story.  It took a lot of courage.  I have nothing but respect for you and P_Rock.  

[fishbear]

Muddy,

Your story is an inspiration of hope, and I for one salute you in your efforts.  I personally know someone that has been clean for over 20 yrs. and every day they admit that they still want it.  It is a constant struggle.  May you always have the strength and courage to continue the good fight, and if you ever need anyone to talk to or blow off steam to, do not hesitate to give me a holler.

John,

[fishfordollars]

Muddy, your the man. Good luck and congratulations on the success. Now to me. I have been offline for over a month. Most of you know that I have had a series of neck surgeries. I have had to cancel the B/R roadtrip due to having a Halo installed on my head to correct and allow my fusion to completely heal. Got it off last Friday but still am having problems sitting over a keyboard for any length of time. Getting better but am still several weeks away from getting back into the everyday deal. P-Rock, sorry to hear of your loss.

[PaparockArk]

I will be thinking and remembering you in my prayers Fishfordollars that your neck heals and that all goes well with you! I know how frustrating such limitations can be especially after a long winter and you are ready to get out there fish with spring just around the corner (we all hope).                            

[jrhennecke]

Thoughts and prayers to you fishfordollars.

[Big T]

Fishfordollars,

I know how you feel, I just recently had a spinal tumor removed from two different spots on my spinal cord. Just try to stay positve and it will all work out. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Big T

[fishbear]

Fish for Dollars,

You are in my thoughts and prayers for your recovery.  

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

  P_Rock

My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family on the loss of you sister.  It is even harder now knowing what a wonderful person she was. Man this world lost a good one!

 My prayers to you and your entire family.

FFI - AKA Matt Crum

I must have missed that one.

My deepest sympathies to you and your family Papa.  I am very tight with my sister, I'd be lost w/o her.  So sorry for your loss.

[PaparockArk]

Thanks everyone! My sister was one os a kind!

[Hookemdown.]

Papa Rock, I'm deeply sorry for your loss.  But I know that you and your family will keep her spirit alive during this hard time.

-Logan

[Big T]

OK,

So I went today to for my planning session fo my radiation treatment. I was told I would not need it to my brain initially at Duke. Then the doctor here in Wilmingotn said, that he might have to do it anyway. However, after consulting with my team at Duke University; he has dicided that I will only need localized radaition to the spine. This means not only will I not have to have radiation to my brain. I will not have to have my entire spine radiated. The doctors  have decided that the risk of radation to areas that did not need it outweighed the minimal risks of the tumor coming back in those areas. I am stoked.

Sorry for such a long post but I just wanted to share this with my friends on Bass resource.

Thanks

Tony