dallas vs gb

[Siebert Outdoors]

for all who got to watch it on dish.  Good game? Bad?

I thought it was a good game.  Very enjoyable.  Just feel bad for all the guys with cable that couldnt watch it.

[roadwarrior]

Me, too!   >

[Fisher of Men]

I thought the game was good, although the officiating seemed to be "a little" one sided. . . Huhummmm! :-X

I hope Brett Favre is able to be back in ten days. I would like him to be able to continue to keep his iron man streak alive until he retires.

[grimlin]

I thought the game was good, although the officiating seemed to be "a little" one sided. . . Huhummmm! :-X

I hope Brett Favre is able to be back in ten days.  I would like him to be able to continue to keep his iron man streak alive until he retires.  

please explain the one sided...i couldn't watch the game. :-/

[Matt Fly]

Two call were questionable calls last night that went in Dallas favor.

If you watch the replay of TO's sideline catch, it was deemed Incomplete pass after challenge, that was originally called good catch, the real questionable call on that was  Al Harris took the ball away from TO, and some think Green Bay should be given the Ball.  Refs originally called forward progress, and the call for harris can't be reviewed.     I don't think Al got the possesion anyway, so correct call was made.

   If you watch that replay closely and slowly, Al never got possesion with two feet in bounds.

Late in the game, Dallas got about a 40 pass interference call in their favor,   Two officials had two calls.

one was incidental, and the ohter one over ruled Pass interference.     The only thing I say is, before Austing fell, about on the 15 yard line, while two clear steps ahead of the defender, the defender reaches with his right arm and grabs him by the shoulder pads, that takes Austin off stride some and the CB runs up on him.      He clearly grabbed him, thats why i think they got tangled.    If he didn't break Austins stride, he don't catch up to him anyway.

On that call, I would like the two officials to be allowed to go to the booth.    That was big call for both team.    Score was real close.       I want those two officials to get under the blanket by them selves and get correct call.  

  I thought the Cowboys would beat them pretty good in the first half.    Packer with injuries, and stll playing on the road and staying close in the second half was credited to not knowing what Rodgers was gonna be able to do.    No doubt, the the second round pick has grown like Romo did while watching vets play.     Pack with all that young talent are gonna be contenders again.    

[Fisher of Men]

I beg to respectfully disagree with you Matt. I'll give you the Al Harris take-away, although I don't understand "forward progress" when TO was going forward. They only give you "forward progress" when the offensive player is being pushed backward.

On the pass interference call at the end of the game, I don't think that the Green Bay corner "\grabbed the arm of Austin. He put his arm in front of him, but I don't think that it in any way impeded Austin's ability to run. I think the leg tangling was mutual and incidental. The ref. on the spot didn't throw the flag because he saw that there was no grab. Why does the other ref. who is some 20-30+ yards away come in and make the call after the plea by the Cowboy receiver?

Besides those two calls, there were at least 2 or 3 facemask calls that were incidental, not deliberate. This contributes to at least 10-15 less yards for Dallas and maybe two less 1st downs.

Yes, Dallas clearly outplayed Green Bay (especially the GB DB's), but I think the game might have been different had these calls been made correctly. Perhaps the two will meet again? Either way, it was an exciting game.

[Tin]

1. I think Green Bay has a GREAT QB after Mr. Farve retires.

2. A horrible pass-interfence call that killed the Pacs comeback, HE TRIPPED OVER HIS OWN FEET!

3. In a rematch if GB is has KGB and Farve doesnt rush or force things, they blow out Dallas. GB was weak without KGB on defense and not taking anything way from Romo, but I think if he was playing Romo wouldnt have 4 td's and all them yards.

4. NFL Network is really starting to p*** people off and most cable providers should just start carrying it.

[Matt Fly]

First off TO was going side ways, not forward or backward and the forward progress call, well, thats a ref thing and not mine.

no catch was correct call, no INT, cause he never got both feet in when AL finally got possession.

With that play on Austin,   The guy grabbed him by his top of shoulder pads as plain as day.

you may beg to differ, but I also said when the game is close, i think the 2 zebras need to go into booth togher and decide which call is correct.    

i would rather that call not be made period.   you can call it they way you like, but the guy grabbed him on his pad to slow him down and that cause him to break stride and the DB ran over him.

We will have to get replay of it.

By the way Fisher, i fished with your clan a few week ago in Austin of Travis.

Very good turn out with 78 boats.   I would recommend Fishers of Men to all, its a well run trail, great cause, great people, and well established organization.

hookem

matt

 

[Hookemdown.]

There was a game on last night? :

[jb_from_texas]

the pass interference call in question is both of what Fisher of men and matt state.  he clearly touched the reciever's pads, not once but twice.  one of them slightly held the receiver's arm down.  and they did tangle feet accidentally.

flipside:

i dont believe Ware was offsides either.  he timed it perfectly.

but at the end of the day it's football with humans and cameras making calls.  if GB was good enough last night they would have overcome any call they think went against them.  all good teams do.

last night Dallas was better, period.

[Matt Fly]

jb,    I think we came away with alot of positive things from the game.

I even say we aren't the same team that was beaten  by the Pats.   And we had the answer to Farve in the first half.   27-10.

Without some questionable calls going the Cows way, GB outplayed us in the last half with Rodgers.

Cows had three plays over 40 yards last night and two of those came on two penalties, one for sure is the Pass Intference call.    I don't question it, but others do and thats enough to create doubt with some.

After the calls that went our way, a rookie QB gets his senses and keeps the Packers in the game.    Packers were on the road, over came loosing a QB, and overcame questionable calls, and only lost by 10 and Dallas was favored by 7 to start with.

We clinched a playoff spot, set franchise records for most TD passes in a season 33, old record held by Danny White 29, and the Boys have never been 11-1 ever.    One more positive, TO is still behaving.    

I guess you guys will be hating on me for years, Romo barring injury is the real McCoy!!!!!

[Matt Fly]

Fisher,

I just watched NFL network and VP of League Officials explain the call.

He said when two guys are running stride for stride and feet tangle, no call.  

If both are running and both are looking back for the ball and feet tangle, no call.    

If receiver is running and looking back, but defender isn't looking back, and feet tangle, its interference.

Last night, both refs got together, one zebra mentioned to the other, the defender never looked back or attempted to play the ball, but the reciever was looking back.

When games have that much on the line, home field advantage and such, and when games aren't blow outs, I think a zebra should go to the booth to get the call right.   Too much technology available to not use it.    

[frogtog]

What yall are doing is cruel and unusual punishment. You know that half of us didn't get the game, so we can't join in the argument.

[jb_from_texas]

Fisher,

I just watched NFL network and VP of League Officials explain the call.

He said when two guys are running stride for stride and feet tangle, no call.

If both are running and both are looking back for the ball and feet tangle, no call.

If receiver is running and looking back, but defender isn't looking back, and feet tangle, its interference.

Last night, both refs got together, one zebra mentioned to the other, the defender never looked back or attempted to play the ball, but the reciever was looking back.

When games have that much on the line, home field advantage and such, and when games aren't blow outs, I think a zebra should go to the booth to get the call right. Too much technology available to not use it.

thanks for the follow up.  makes sense to me.

either way, da boys won and thats all i care about.