bbbking Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 I am trying to find a comparable soft bait to gary yamamoto senkos. Something less expensive but just as good. Any recommendations?
Nick_Barr Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 A Ghost Baits G-Stick It is VERY Soft and LOADED with Salt and a secret Scented Ingredient. It has a very similar. almost exact fall rate of the Senko and has an awesome wiggle on the way down. Only $3.75 for 10
Gorgebassman Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Theres a good discussion in one of the senko forums that is kind of on that order but i personally use wave tiki sticks there more durable than a senko and cost alot less and I catch as man fish on a tiki as i do a senko.
The_Natural Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Tiki sticks and Yum Dingers are both good, but don't quite have the fall rate of a Senko.
senko_77 Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 the best replica of a real senko would be a hand pour
Brad_Coovert Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 The best replica of a Senko is the Kinami Flash. Brad
bass ackwards Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 kinami baits have yamamoto enterprises on the bag and their only a 7 ct. bag. i agree on the wave worms. and they have some awsome colors.(yum yum)i eat 2 and i fish with the other 8.
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 17, 2006 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 17, 2006 This is answered in the Senko FAQ's
Bassassasin12 Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 YUM dingers would be the only thing I would really use if I am gonna use a senko knockoff. But most of the time, I'll take the original.
Guest the_muddy_man Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Hey Im surprised Road Warrior didnt delete this whole thread. This is like sacraligious in his book
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 17, 2006 Super User Posted July 17, 2006 No, no, no. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, even when they're wrong! I told LBH that I would NEVER get into this debate again, but heck, it's just too much fun... I'm sure the knockoffs catch lots of fish, but I have had too much success with GYCB products to switch. I fish a few other soft plastics: Slug-Go, Roboworms, Micro Munch Tackle El Gordo tubes and Mizmo tubes. So there! BTW, Brad_Coovert, That was a clever reply...
Super User Bankbeater Posted July 17, 2006 Super User Posted July 17, 2006 I like the stik-o from BPS. I haven't really tried any other brand.
flyphisher # Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Cold Steel's Walking Stick is a great handpour. They are a GA company but I think they may have started selling though a distributor. You may be able to find them online now.
Guest the_muddy_man Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Hey b/c of my recent sucess using senko knock ooff I bought a bag of senkos and 2 other knock offs to compare them I also went to Senko FAQ( RW keeps you from bein lazy!) and realized I need to use wider hooks or at least larger? What brand hooks offer the lighest wire vs hook strength?
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 17, 2006 Super User Posted July 17, 2006 ITT XPoints. These are the lightess, strongest and sharpest hooks made. Although there might be a couple of considerations for a slight adjustment in hook size to have the "perfect" size for a Senko/ knockoff, a 4/0 EWG generally fits the bill.
Super User Marty Posted July 17, 2006 Super User Posted July 17, 2006 Tiki sticks and Yum Dingers are both good, but don't quite have the fall rate of a Senko. Undoubtedly that statement is correct, but that's not necessarily a negative, as the Senko fall rate is not always going to be the best rate. I've caught numerous fish on the Yums, others swear by the Tiki Sticks. Although I use mostly Senkos, a couple of weeks ago I caught my best of the year on a Zoom Z-Nail. Just because Senko was the first doesn't mean it's the only game in town.
senko_77 Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Cold Steel's Walking Stick is a great handpour. They are a GA company but I think they may have started selling though a distributor. You may be able to find them online now. have you really had success with those things!?!? I am about to start selling my hand pours in a local tackle shop that carries them. I wasnt sure if I was holding a senko or a metal rod. Those things were stiff as a board.
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 18, 2006 Super User Posted July 18, 2006 Russ, You have been MIA. I told you I would NOT do this again...Oh well... I like your camera and I was never questioning your suggestions or sincerity. I just wish you were fishing the "right bait" so you could show us more tape and bigger bass... Here is a simple formula for calculating the cost or value of your bait: $1.00 for any bass caught $100.00 for bass over 5 lbs $1000.00 for bass over 10 lbs Now, add up the dollar value of the number of bass caught, adjusting for the value assigned to size. Then subtract the cost of your baits from the total sum. Using this formula, you too will become a GYCB fan.
Fish Chris Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 The Hud ! ......so you can replace those 3 lb bass, with 13's ! ;-) Peace, Fish
Hightekrednek Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Man, fishermen are more opinionated than politicians! Use 'em all, sometimes it seems like one works better than the other, I have had days where the senko caught double the amount of the tiki-stick, and vice-versa. Besides, everyone who swears that the senko is the only stickbait that's worth the money is selling themselves short. What would you do if the bass were biting the sweet potatoe pie tiki-stick like crazy and you were only doing alright with your senkos(they don't come in that color scheme). By the sound of it, some of you would rather go fishless all day than even thinking of touching anything but the original senko :-?
Guest the_muddy_man Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Thanks RW Im going to look to pick some of those hooks up
Fish Chris Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Opinionated ? I resemble that statement ! :-) LOL BTW, what wrong with going fishless all day ? Okay, sure I could throw a Senko, or a Tiki-stik, or any other "numbers" kind of bass lure..... and then I would certainly stand a better chance of sticking a few, or even a bunch, of small to medium sized fish. Only problem with that is, I'd have all but forgotten about those fish, by the time I pulled my boat off of the water. On the other hand, if I get skunked five trips in a row, then on the 6th trip I stick a 10 to 13 lb'er, or maybe even bigger, not only will I remember that fish at the end of the day, but I'm liable to remember it next year.... heck, maybe even 10 years from now ! King of skunks :-) Fish Chris
Captain Cali Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 The Senko is the only stick bait I currently throw. Tried a few others but none catch fish, for me, as consistantly as the GYCB Senko does. Fish Chris...I hope to one day have the same mindset you have. Big bass only!! 8-) That first 10 will probably do it. Gotta keep those hooks on the hudd sharp!
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 Russ,You have been MIA. I told you I would NOT do this again...Oh well... I like your camera and I was never questioning your suggestions or sincerity. I just wish you were fishing the "right bait" so you could show us more tape and bigger bass... Everyone reading-FYI- Rw and I are great friends on different sides of a debate. We rib each other constantly on the subject but have full respect in order on both sides at all times, please don't confuse our poking as punching. I will say this though,...If RW and I were ever on the same team in a debate, the other side wouldn't stand a chance! -------------------------------------------------------------------- RW- No that's just not fair, we don't have 10 lb bass up here. If I did break down your formula to apply to RI however, then you just solidified my point for me. I catch the largest class fish we have here, consistently, with the baits I use. Sure the Yamamoto bait would most likely do the same but that's my point. Why spend $.70/worm to catch the same fish that is attracted to a $.10 worm? Money grow on trees down in Tennessee? We have been knocking on the state records door lately and with our lake returning to it's former prime (Sizes are rising again, each yr.) (7's and 8's were around a few yrs back before draining for dam repair) Are you suggesting that there is a whole nuther size class in our lake that we won't find unless we are throwing GYCB's??? Now, I'm at least being fair, I threw GYCB's for a few years. How long did you throw a knock-off before you judged it inferior and which one? The ones I use are the exact same as a yum dinger. If all you throw is one thing,...don't be surprised if that's what your fish are caught on. Kinda common sense. If I send you a 10-pack,...will you give them an honest try?
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