the pennants are in view the trash is flying 2007

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Which Hi gh School are you playin???????

[Siebert Outdoors]

I was talking about the pirates. Yeah I know they swept us last time. Worst team in the league beat us. Happens again the cards should just be removed from the standings.

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey Gman every great team has a bad team that pesters them In the mid to late 70's the LA DODGERS were a powerhouse club and the Mets were  lets say HORRIBLE the only team the Mets had a winning pct against in those years was the Dodgers IT BE THAT WAY SOMETIMES

[Siebert Outdoors]

How many posts do you think this topic will be up to at the end of baseball season?

[Guest the_muddy_man]

I dont know just a handfull of us posting BUT IM THE ONLY METS FAN and I appreciate the funny barbs going back and forth without anyone beating each other up THATS B/C NO YANKEE FANS

[YankeesWin]

I think the Yankees record (especially in the post season) speakes for it self!!  

[Guest the_muddy_man]

;DKNEW SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE THE BAIT ;D

[RiskKid.]

Careful there Muddy.....this Yankee fan resembles that remark. I even very graciously invited Gman to come join the dark side. For that matter we'd love to have you join us too.

It's just hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way  

I just hope we put enough distance past the Bosox

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey Im gonna stay in the light Thank You

Say bye bye to the bosox they did thier tradtional sept nose dive (last year excluded) a month earlier If I were a Yannkee Fan( just the thought makes me nauseous ) Id be worried about thaty brash young crew in Detroit playing for the AL Manager of the yeat They are hungry and he knows how to win big games

[YankeesWin]

Careful there Muddy.....this Yankee fan resembles that remark. I even very graciously invited Gman to come join the dark side. For that matter we'd love to have you join us too.

It's just hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way

I just hope we put enough distance past the Bosox

Thanx for showing up riskkid!! Becarefull inviting those guys in without a down payment!! We have a team to pay for you know.

As for the Bosox.... They will take care of them selves.

muddy, I wouldn't mind seeing Detroit get their chance. They deserve respect and Lord knows the whole city could use a boost, but "for me and my house... we will cheer the YANKEES"

[Guest the_muddy_man]

I rally wanna thank all on this thread Comin from Brooklyn all we did was talk baseball even in January Were I live now It is all Football and wresteling(colllege) So Iam am so grateful to yo0u all to do this

Man I miss WFAN and Mike and the MadDog up here

[K_Mac]

YankeesWin, I have only one word for you-Philistine. ;D ;D ;D ;D

[YankeesWin]

MUDDY, Thanks for starting this "crazy" thread!! I love to talk baseball, but when you mentioned College Wrestling :o

Maybe we can start a thread about that later. Being an Iowa boy, I grew up with a mat in my basement and had my first pair of wrestling shoes when I was 5-6. I don't dare step on the mat these days (I'd break something for sure) but I still have a great passion for the sport.

OOOHHHH YEAH!! "Let's go Yankees... Let's go Yankees... Let's go Yankees"

[YankeesWin]

Phili-WHO??? :

[Guest the_muddy_man]

College wrestling is not my thing at all Dont know the first thing about a sport where two sweaty guys in minimal clothing are huggin eachother a little weird for me

[bassmasta7]

I believe I did say the Sox were going to miss the playoffs and someone said that we're gonna hold you to it. A lot of season left but I like my odds. Muddy, yeah david wright was injured so his numbers arent what they should be but that is why he wont win, he was injured and his numbers arent what they should be. Keep in mind, Albert was out over 2 weeks and his numbers are still outstanding. Personally I think there are 3 greatest Cardinals of all time that are all tied for first. Def. Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, and finally Rogers Hornsby. Ever heard of him. How about one the greatest right handed hitters of all time. He hit over .400 3 times and he has the highest batting avg all-time for right-handed hitters. He only hit 301hr. but that was at Sportsmans park where it was like 430 to center and 450 down the lines. I do think it is time to start mentioning Albert in the same breath as these guys. Stan vs. Alberts first 6 seasons albert has a 168 more hr, 276 more RBI, same number of SB, and more runs. Alberts career batting avg is higher, higher slg %, and higher OBP. I think albert was younger in his debut also. The only way Albert is not going to be as good as Stan would be if he got injured every year for the rest of his career. Albert is only 236hr behind Stan. ALBERT IS EL HOMBRE!!

[YankeesWin]

I believe I did say the Sox were going to miss the playoffs and someone said that we're gonna hold you to it. A lot of season left but I like my odds. Muddy, yeah david wright was injured so his numbers arent what they should be but that is why he wont win, he was injured and his numbers arent what they should be. Keep in mind, Albert was out over 2 weeks and his numbers are still outstanding. Personally I think there are 3 greatest Cardinals of all time that are all tied for first. Def. Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, and finally Rogers Hornsby. Ever heard of him. How about one the greatest right handed hitters of all time. He hit over .400 3 times and he has the highest batting avg all-time for right-handed hitters. He only hit 301hr. but that was at Sportsmans park where it was like 430 to center and 450 down the lines. I do think it is time to start mentioning Albert in the same breath as these guys. Stan vs. Alberts first 6 seasons albert has a 168 more hr, 276 more RBI, same number of SB, and more runs. Alberts career batting avg is higher, higher slg %, and higher OBP. I think albert was younger in his debut also. The only way Albert is not going to be as good as Stan would be if he got injured every year for the rest of his career. Albert is only 236hr behind Stan. ALBERT IS EL HOMBRE!!

WOW :o I think he got ya there Muddy

I'll let the wrestling comment go. 8-)

[Guest the_muddy_man]

You right You know before my dad passed away we went to Coopertown several times and He always went on about Hornsbys hitting I should know better But Ozzie goes on my Alltime Cards list also I agree that Puljos numbers are magnificant he just has to do it for a longer time to be an all time great Hes the second best player in the game Like I said I hate to admit but a %$)^&% Yankkee is the best right now and thats JETER no better leader or everyday player on the planet right now As far as Wright vs Puljos we both pullin for our homies partner

[YankeesWin]

: Muddy... PLEASE don't swear in the same sentence when you mention Mr. Jeter.... PLEASE

[K_Mac]

You right You know before my dad passed away we went to Coopertown several times and He always went on about Hornsbys hitting I should know better But Ozzie goes on my Alltime Cards list also I agree that Puljos numbers are magnificant he just has to do it for a longer time to be an all time great Hes the second best player in the game Like I said I hate to admit but a %$)^&% Yankkee is the best right now and thats JETER no better leader or everyday player on the planet right now As far as Wright vs Puljos we both pullin for our homies partner

muddy

Ozzie will never make my list of Cardinal greats for the same the same reasons JETER is your best player. Jeter is an incredible player and a real leader on the field and in the clubhouse. Ozzie was never a leader in our clubhouse. IMO he was a devisive presence and was more concerned with his own agenda than the good of the team. The fact that he refuses to take part in official Cardinal activities is a testimony to his ego. Just ranting a little :

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey K-MAC that is an excellent point. I think the Cardinal organization is very good They have even had some Differences with Gibson but I never fully understood Ozzies problem there But he still is one of the best sshort tops and Cardinals of all times He once made an error in Shea stadium, on a day when all the elevator operators had gone on strike in NYC  The headline on the paper that day OZZIE BOOTS ONE  in NY we know whats important

Yankees win I wouldnt cuss if i was jsut talking about Jeter its them%#($R*Yankees that bring the worst out in me  :-/

[Siebert Outdoors]

Little bit of this going on lately

[bassmasta7]

I remember earlier this year Tony LaRussa said something about how he will never go to a function or event with Ozzie Smith anymore and dont know if he ever said why. I never really liked ozzie. I think he was a great everyday player and spectacular defensively but I dont even think he is HOF worthy. That is pretty bad coming from a Cardinals fan prospective. Not to get back to the stats but his career batting avg was .262, .337 obp, 28hr, 793RBI, 2460hits. Offensively the only HOF worthy stat is 580SB and only 589SO. Maybe because the '85 NLCS walkoff homerun or maybe, in my opinion, the greatest play in the history of baseball back when he was with the padres. IDK if Jeter is the best player in baseball but i think he is the best leader and most valuable to his team. I think he holds that Yankees club together with all of those individual superstars. He is very clutch but I think he is probably behind a couple other players. Definitely #1 no contest is Big Papi. Jeter might be #2 with Pujols close behind (top of the 9th 2 outs down by 2 2strikes away from your seasoning ending against the most dominant closer in baseball). Jeter, if it is possible, is the most clutch defensive player in baseball.

 

[YankeesWin]

OK Muddy, go ahead and cuss.......... YankeesWin ;D

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey Bassmast7 for a young man you rally know the game It is good to see that the tradition moves on  You have a good knowledge of the history and the stats. I think we differ b/c I always dont see stats as the difference which is crazy b/c baseball is a game of Stats

 How bout this my favorite Met of all time will never make the hall of fame. MOOKIE WILSON he was a pest on base(which he frequently got on) was a sparkplug for the team and a joy in both the clubhuse and on the field for the fans.

 Now hes the skipper of the Coney Island club(yes there is a team in Bklyn again)

So just wanted to say that I respect your knowledge of the game and how you express your opinions

NO MATTER HOW WRONG YOU ARE ;D ;D ;D