Siebert Outdoors Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 I'm going to try and answer for both sides of this and also stay within the topic from my experiences. Along with trying to explain the rationale of why. BTW Ok I'm weird for paying attention to details and patterns but it makes me alot better of a hunter. All animals have patterns. Doesnt matter what animal. Take a yote for example. He will live in an area untill the food source is deminished. Once this is done he will move on. This is where a farmer/rancher will get hammered. For example chickens that lay my egss I eat. If I started out with 12 and one night a yote gets one. I'm down to 11 obviously. Within 2-3 days I will be down to 10 chickens. If another yote or a mother is feeding her young the #'s of my chickens will decrease faster. Within approx 2-3 weeks I will no longer have chickens. Then I go hungry. There is only one way to take care of the situation. Trapping and relocating is a feel good for some, but actually a joke. Either you pass on the problem to someone else or the critter dies from starvation during the relocation and surroundings. This pattern is the same for all varmints I have run across. They are very easy to pattern once you have an initial understanding and incident. This yote that niksfishinmom is brave because he is out during the day. Most yotes run around here at night or very early or late. Its very difficult to explain something like this that is just a way of life for some and an unfamiliar ground for others.
BassHunter69 Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 my vote is shoot a couple of yotes make a new blanket and feed the dawg da meat therefore yotes gone chickens be safe and ya have a warm blankie and well fed dawg :
Super User Catt Posted September 27, 2007 Super User Posted September 27, 2007 So when the ecosystem gets out of balance what would you suggest? And when did a coyote become a dog? Hurricane Rita destroyed many of my friend's herds of cattle and after finally getting their lively hood back y'all would suggest letting an over population of ecosystem friendly coyotes have a free meal. Yelp makes total sense to me : Some of us who consider ourselves to be sportsmen and conservationists on this website need a class in conservation so they can truly understand how the ecosystem really works. It's like telling someone they are not a true sportsman because they eat bass, selective harvesting when done under proper controls is a good thing for the environment regardless of if you eat the wildlife or not.
tallydude Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 So when the ecosystem gets out of balance what would you suggest? Staying in Texas. Now be nice before I chase you around with a science book. They have those there, right?
Super User Catt Posted September 27, 2007 Super User Posted September 27, 2007 So when the ecosystem gets out of balance what would you suggest? Staying in Texas. Now be nice before I chase you around with a science book. They have those there, right? I take that to mean you don't know
tallydude Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 No, I don't know. I'm not a biologist. My point was that these coyotes were in the woods by themselves, clearly not being a threat to any one person. The idea that Burley wanted to shoot one didn't make sense to me. Furthermore, it seems to me that were there to be too many coyotes, they would starve out. Wouldn't that be the most natural order of things?
preach4bass Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Coyotes have been brought into our area recently to "thin out" the rabbit population by the tree farmers. They claim that the rabbits were eating their trees when they were small, so the coyotes are supposed to help their problem. Hunting season starts in a few weeks, and if I see a coyote I'm going to shoot it. Why? For two reasons: 1. They scare me, my wife, and others in our community who like to walk with our dogs for exercise. A few have been sighted (one by me) in the areas that we walk. Thankfully, I hunt in that general area too 2. I like rabbits more than coyotes.
Deb Posted September 28, 2007 Author Posted September 28, 2007 Hey guys...............I really didn't mean to start all this......... :-/ I simply thought it was neat to see coyotes for the first and second times.......back to back. I'm gonna ask one of the mods to please lock this before it gets outta hand...............
BassHunter69 Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 coyotes are kinda nice looking but my favorite would be wolves particularly timber wolves those are beautiful animals far more so then yotes in my eyes but a yote does serve his purpose. same native americans consider the coyote as a spirit animal or guide in some cases.
CJ Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 I ain't much on knowledge of the ecosystem.I do however know a bit about coyotes.I spent alot of time in the woods before becoming a bass addict.Coyotes are neccesary.To many of them are not.Coyotes will bring down calves,kill pets,and chickens.Yet,their number one source of prey are rodents.Their best resource is scavenging.They clean up the dead but most importantly they kill the wounded and weak.The problem is that they have no predators in the south except for man.To balance the ecosystem a man's gotta do,what a man's gotta do.A bullet is much less suffering than starvation.I have never incountered a coyote that didn't run from me.I don't feel they are a threat to man.
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