Deb Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 40 yrs I've been living on Ky Lake....yep, I'm old........soon to be a grandma Anyway........40 yrs, I've seen lots of critters....lots of neat critters......beavers, coons (lots of coons), deer, evn a bunny, eagles, last yr I even saw a bobcat. Yesterday for the 1st time ever, I saw my first coyote on the lake bank....actually there were 3. The leader was large with 2 smaller ones following....when they saw us....zip they were gone up into the hills.... This evening......we'd been watching 3 little coons playing......rounded a point and hear some noise in the woods......not a deer too noisy......then it appears.....just in the tree line. It walked on down the bank....I managed to get my camera and take a few pics....not good ones mind you but pics anyway..... I'm guessing it was about 75-100 ft from us! It headed down to the water when our little dog, Chewy barked. It turned and slowly headed back up into the trees........ Strange......all these years and now I've seen 4 in 2 days...........
Super User burleytog Posted September 25, 2007 Super User Posted September 25, 2007 Need to carry a MH Bushmaster for those varmints.
Super User Jimzee Posted September 25, 2007 Super User Posted September 25, 2007 They are getting pretty thick around my neck of the woods too. I think it's neat to have them around.
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Those are certainly some odds that perk the ears,...no sightings in 40 yrs and then 4 in 2 days,...wonder if their food is getting scarce as we near the fall season?
Super User Catt Posted September 25, 2007 Super User Posted September 25, 2007 It's really hard to tell from the photos but these appear to be coydogs, which are a mixed bread of coyote & dog. They have become a huge problem in many parts of the nation because they are not shy around humans like a coyote. Along the Gulf coast they have also became a popular sport to hunt using high velocity bullets with the most popular being the Hornady .17 cal. & the .204 Ruger. Keep you smaller dog indoors or your bigger dog unchained
slomoe Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Thanks for posting, those are some good pics. We just had one spotted a few weeks ago here. There's so much development here, Its really not a supprise.
Olebiker Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Those are mighty plump coyotes. All of my relatives back in Kentucky who raise cattle keep donkeys in the pasture with the cattle. It seems that donkeys hate coyotes and will chase them off.
BassHunter69 Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 come to think of it ive seen a few of those critters they dont scare me, just another dog in my eyes. don't need a gun i just happen to be one of those red necks with a looooooooooooong knife aka throwing knife. several years ago i had to kill one for my own protection, i dont normally hunt either, well haven't hunted since i was a kid any ways.
tallydude Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Need to carry a MH Bushmaster for those varmints. Yeah, because killing animals I'm not gonna eat is a great idea.
Bud Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Hay Deb every saw any ottors in Ky lake????? Last fall I was fishing Pisgah bay along the rock wall when I saw 6 otters playing with a fish. I quit fishing and just watch them for a good 10 minutes. They are a beautiful aminal.
Siebert Outdoors Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 It's really hard to tell from the photos but these appear to be coydogs, which are a mixed bread of coyote & dog. They have become a huge problem in many parts of the nation because they are not shy around humans like a coyote. Along the Gulf coast they have also became a popular sport to hunt using high velocity bullets with the most popular being the Hornady .17 cal. & the .204 Ruger. Keep you smaller dog indoors or your bigger dog unchained You aint a kiddin. I've seen a couple of them. They typically are not shy at all. Some wonder where their pet ran off too :-? Yotes like chickens in the coop or the ones that run free in the yard. Some of the brave ones run down new born cattle if there are enough yotes in the area. 1 dead yote or $500+ calf. Tough choice there. Nice pics btw.
BadKarma42 Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Perhaps the PA Game Commission transplanted them there.......
tallydude Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 It's really hard to tell from the photos but these appear to be coydogs, which are a mixed bread of coyote & dog. They have become a huge problem in many parts of the nation because they are not shy around humans like a coyote. Along the Gulf coast they have also became a popular sport to hunt using high velocity bullets with the most popular being the Hornady .17 cal. & the .204 Ruger. Keep you smaller dog indoors or your bigger dog unchained You aint a kiddin. I've seen a couple of them. They typically are not shy at all. Some wonder where their pet ran off too :-? Yotes like chickens in the coop or the ones that run free in the yard. Some of the brave ones run down new born cattle if there are enough yotes in the area. 1 dead yote or $500+ calf. Tough choice there. Nice pics btw. GMAN- I respect your opinion, but I really never understood that line of thinking. It's the same as the ranchers farming on government land in Colorado and Wyoming that wanted to kill the wolves preying on the occasional livestock. Wolves, coyotes and coydogs have all evolved because there was a natural ecological need for the animal. Those that deal in the livestock business should accept that losses to natural predators are part of the deal.
Lightninrod Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 "Coyote Ugly".....NOT! Great pics Deb. Thank you young Lady. Dan
Super User burleytog Posted September 26, 2007 Super User Posted September 26, 2007 Need to carry a MH Bushmaster for those varmints. Yeah, because killing animals I'm not gonna eat is a great idea. I guess you don't kill mice or rats either... :
preach4bass Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Need to carry a MH Bushmaster for those varmints. Yeah, because killing animals I'm not gonna eat is a great idea. I guess you don't kill mice or rats either... : I do! But I'm a pretty cruel guy. I even swat mosquitos and drown the occasional fishing worm
tallydude Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Need to carry a MH Bushmaster for those varmints. Yeah, because killing animals I'm not gonna eat is a great idea. I guess you don't kill mice or rats either... : I would, but the coyotes keep getting in my walls and under my floor boards. Man, if I were just lucky enough to live where coyotes live outdoors...
Murray Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 my neighborhood several years ago had a considerably large population for a semi-suburban area. but we have seen less foxes the last 5 years or so and a population increase in rabbits. my lab brings us "presents" about twice a week. pretty nasty. and the roads are scattered with rabbits. AND we have an increase in red tail hawk population. its amazing how nature works...one animal leaves and is immediatly taken over my another animal
Super User Catt Posted September 26, 2007 Super User Posted September 26, 2007 So tell us westpalmdude how long have you been a farmer/rancher?
Deb Posted September 26, 2007 Author Posted September 26, 2007 Hay Deb every saw any ottors in Ky lake????? Last fall I was fishing Pisgah bay along the rock wall when I saw 6 otters playing with a fish. I quit fishing and just watch them for a good 10 minutes. They are a beautiful aminal. Not this year Bud. Last year, I had one swim out almost to the boat then proceed to swim circles around us.......it stayed with us doing all kinds of water stunts thru 2 coves in Bloody...... I too have to stop and watch the critters.........just one more reason I love being out there. I like to drive down to PIsgah in the winter, climb the rocks and watch the Eagles......saw lots of them last yr. Ginger Bay also has lots of them........
tallydude Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 So tell us westpalmdude how long have you been a farmer/rancher? Respectfully, I have never been a farmer or rancher, though I do totally respect the work that is done in those professions. Here is my point of view (and I don't mean to come off snobby to you, Burley, or anyone else)- coyotes are a natural part of the ecosystem. So are cows, horses, men, goats and sheep. It would seem to me that you would want to protect your livestock from predators in the same fashion as you would from nature- building shelters, etc. However, killing an animal that you have no intention of harvesting isn't ethical. We're not talking about an overpopulation of coyotes in the wild.The coyote (or any other predator) is there to serve a balance in the ecosystem. My original comment was directed at Burley in regards to seeing a coyote out in the wild (not attacking anything) and his remark stating that he'd like to shoot it. For what? What purpose would it serve? Do we not condsider ourselves sportsmen and conservationists on this website? Am I wrong in thinking that each of us champions the spirit of the wild and a love of the outdoors? So where does shooting a dog just for the @#$%^#% of it fit in?
Guest avid Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Cool. A debate!!!! I like it. I think that having respect for all living creatures is really important. that's not to say that letting termites devour your house is anything but stupid, but like WPB suggests, I too get turned off by knee jerk reactions that demonstrate disdain for any animal. It reminds of watching Mike Iaconelli one time on TV during a recent classic. He boated a short, and just flung it out of the boat like it was a piece of garbage. I'm an ike fan, but this bothered me. Here the guy is making his living from catching bass and instead of taking the extra nano second to release it properly he throws it away with such contempt that I thought it kind of repulsive. So, there it is. Let's rock
Hookem Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Not too many years back, those two 'yotes would have gotten you $16 if you brought the ears to the county courthouse!
tallydude Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Yeah, well not too many years back you didn't have to go to a zoo to see a buffalo. Do you see where I'm going here?
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