Super User flechero Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 Anyone have any idea why this summer has been so full of rod and reel bashing and trashing? There are like 5-6 threads on the first page of "rods, reels and line" that are like this... and this week is no recent exception. It's almost as if there is a need to be heard more than a need to provide info that's either factual or actual experience. I'm amazed at how much bad info gets posted as if it's been verified as fact. It's a pretty crappy trend, IMO. And it's certainly not limited to high end or high dollar rods and reels but a few brands trigger the best and worst, each time they are mentioned. I realize a part of it may be dollars motivated but I think there is something else to it. There isn't much to discuss about it I just wondered if I was the only one who was bothered by the recent spike or if anyone had a "full moon" theory for it. Quote
Daniel My Brother Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 10,877 members, that's a lot of opinions and a lot of emotions. There are members here who's opinion I value and everything else is pure entertainment. Quote
Super User cart7t Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 Back in the early days of bass boats, Ranger was considered the premium brand out there. There was fact to that as well as some fallacy. Back then there were a number of low quality builders and it wasn't unheard of for someone to get stuck with one of those pigs. Rangers commanded a premium price for the quality alone, you knew you were getting a quality boat even though there were others building just as good. Times changed. Ranger still makes a quality product but the competition has caught up and in many cases is selling the same quality for less. Fishing rods, even the sacred Loomis are no different. Time and competition tends to level the playing field eventually. and that's all I have to say about that. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 I've noticed there are alot of people who are loyal to what they use and think everything else is junk. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 I've noticed there are alot of people who are loyal to what they use and think everything else is junk. Yeah, you'd think all "those guys" would start buying the "right stuff." : OKAY, lighten up...I'm just kidding. I think it's just the nature of the internet. Quote
Super User Sam Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 You know, growing up in the 50s, 60s and 70s we did not have all of the TV reporting and news shows nor the web nor XM and Sirius Radio, etc. to give us all the news and crime shows. So we grew up not knowing about a lot of stuff that was happening in our neighborhoods. Now we can watch OJ's vehicle leave the jail or listed to Bill O'Riley blast some criminal or dumb politician and hear and see all the crime and auto accidents you want 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. The same goes with this forum. Before this forum we had no one to complain to or tell our stories. Now we do, and our members tell us the good and bad news. It just seems that there are a lot of broken rods and reels out there, but there were a lot of broken rods and reels before this forum but we did not hear about them. We also did not hear everyone's opinion on rods, reels and baits. Now we hear from people all over the world on the site about their experiences with their rods, reels, boats, places to fish, baits, etc. I skip over a lot of posts that do not interest me. I suggest you all do the same and just go along, like me, enjoying fishing and using the equipment and tackle we feel confident using and reading those posts that you are interested. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 I think it's just the nature of the internet. I agree. So many different personalities coming together in one place.....its bound to happen sometimes. Quote
skillet Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 I have noticed the difference myself. It's gotten a little more intense than jokeing about which possee you're on. Myself, I hope it swings back in that direction. I am definitely not indifferent to this subject. One of the main reasons I joined this group was the lack of "bashing" that went on... As Ever, skillet Quote
Daniel My Brother Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Hey Fletchero, I found something that will stop people from arguing about high-end equipment. Somebody just posted a topic about eating bass...we're moving the fight to a new location! This oughta be good. ;D ;D ;D Quote
fishbear Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Everyone is going to have their own opinions on equipment. No matter what field we are talking about. Take firearms for instance, I love Sako, Tikka, Ruger. You could not give me a Savage or a new Winchester. Someone else may love those firearms.... I am a Ford man, you may be a Chevy person (we call you uninformed) ;D ;D ;D ;D Just kidding.... So, each to their own, and filter the good from the bad and everyone makes their own hopefully informed decision. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Ya gotta weed through all the BS. I will admit as most know I am a huge loomis fan. Is there other rods out there in the same quality range. Yes there probably is. IMO if it aint broke dont fix it. I gotta go check out these topics. I havent looke in that area for awhile. Gotta keep the mods on their toes. Quote
Guest avid Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 I've been on this forum a couple of years now, and I can tell you this is always a favorite topic. I'm not absolutely sure, but I kinda think it's RoadWarriors fault. No, I take it back, I am sure it is RoadWarriors fault. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 When I buy new fishing gear, I am intensely loyal. Loyal to a bargain. I tend to buy only when I can get a deal. I have a totally random selection of rods and reels. Almost everything was bought on sale, on clearance, or used but not abused. Most, but not all, of the stuff I use every day has been called junk by somebody on this forum. Well, everybody is entitled to their own opinions. Just wish some of them grounded in fact, or actual experience, and not hype. If you post a comment like " I use ( insert brand of choice here ) and everything else in junk", know this; I will give your opinion the respect it deserves. Cheers, GK Quote
RWHusker. Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 It takes a few months of being on B/R to get a good idea of which members opinions are backed with knowledge and experience and who really just wants to be heard for being heard sake. As a wise old women once told me about opinions. Dig for the truth in it and leave the rest in the crapper where it belongs. The crapper seems to always be fuller than the truth end. I too enjoy the entertainment of the threads but still amazes me that people post some threads under the annonimity of the internet. Kind like everyone on eharmony is good looking and rich. Well I babbled long enough, and yes the good looking rich guy in my avator is married to my wife. GO BIG RED Quote
Super User Raul Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 You can 't say the product is good or bad if you have never owned it. You may say you think X or Y product is overrated if compared to Z but in order to have a valid opinion you must or have owned X,Y and Z for a true comparison and still it 's your opinion, other may have experienced the exact opposite and their opinion will be different, take it as it is, an opinion. Any opinion not based on testing and trying on your own is: Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 I've been on this forum a couple of years now, and I can tell you this is always a favorite topic. I'm not absolutely sure, but I kinda think it's RoadWarriors fault. No, I take it back, I am sure it is RoadWarriors fault. : Well, if everyone would start using the "right" stuff, there wouldn't be a problem! ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote
Super User 5bass Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 You can 't say the product is good or bad if you have never owned it. Any opinion not based on testing and trying on your own is: RIGHT ON RAUL! The threads would be easier to read and probably more helpful for the members who are actually looking for honest opinions of other (insert brand here) owners. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted September 20, 2007 Super User Posted September 20, 2007 You can 't say the product is good or bad if you have never owned it. Any opinion not based on testing and trying on your own is: RIGHT ON RAUL! The threads would be easier to read and probably more helpful for the members who are actually looking for honest opinions of other (insert brand here) owners. Amen, brothers Quote
BassHunter69 Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 I've been on this forum a couple of years now, and I can tell you this is always a favorite topic. I'm not absolutely sure, but I kinda think it's RoadWarriors fault. No, I take it back, I am sure it is RoadWarriors fault. : Well, if everyone would start using the "right" stuff, there wouldn't be a problem! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D r.w ok what is the right stuff? i need an education here ;D Quote
Super User Raul Posted September 21, 2007 Super User Posted September 21, 2007 I've been on this forum a couple of years now, and I can tell you this is always a favorite topic. I'm not absolutely sure, but I kinda think it's RoadWarriors fault. No, I take it back, I am sure it is RoadWarriors fault. : Well, if everyone would start using the "right" stuff, there wouldn't be a problem! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D r.w ok what is the right stuff? i need an education here ;D Shimano reels, GLoomis rods. Actually what RW is trying to imply is that when purchasing rods n 'reels you should stay away from the lower end products and purchase mid or high end products, personally I 'm in the same school of thought, 33 years of shopping tackle have taught me so, at the beginning I wasted ( and that 's the appropiate word for it: WASTED ) hundreds of hard earned cash purchasing the cheap stuff, all of it broke or didn 't perform well, it ended up in the trash or was given away which is in practical terms the same thing. Quote
PaparockArk Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Indefferent; doing my own thing. Quote
Super User Micro Posted September 22, 2007 Super User Posted September 22, 2007 One thing I've noticed is that you sometimes can't even ask a question, or engage in some discourse, without people being offended. Ask a question why someone likes one rod over another then suddenly you have five people telling you that you are bashing their equipment, or that you have no idea what you're talking about since you don't own that rod, or that you are just trying to justify your own equipment. It's almost as if there are two separate conversations going on. On the bright side, the vast majority of conversation on the board is civilized. There are a number of people who stand out as being exceptionally courteous and perpetually pleasant, among them Basshunter69. These people make the forum a nice place to visit. Quote
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