Tackle � made in the USA

[Zel]

Two of my company's suppliers, both U.S. manufacturers, recently went out of business due to low cost imports.  It scares me that our country seems to be getting out of the manufacturing business more and more.  I think this will only hurt us in the long run.  Personally, I am going to try harder to buy more American made products.  I would also like to start supporting US manufacturers in my future fishing purchases.  Does anybody know what rod brands, reel brands, line brands, and tackle brands are manufactured in the United States?

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Rods All but the Triupmh>>>>>St Croix and some Lamiglass ,Falcons and Kistlers

Reels ARDEnt { in Cableas Site}

Sorry Zel thats all I know of off hand

[Raul]

Rods

GLoomis IMX and GLX are manufactured in US; Mossys, GL3s & GL2s no, crankbait & spinnerbait " ? "

StCroix starting from the Avid and up

Kistlers starting from the Helium.

Reels

Ardent but I wouldn 't put my hands in the fire for them.

Companies own themselves to their share holders, the more they cut on costs the more profit they make for their share holders while maintaining the same price for the customer, sad but true, as a share holder I don 't care where my money comes from as long as I get it.

[burleytog]

The SC Premier is made in the US as well.

[llPa1nll]

Two of my company's suppliers, both U.S. manufacturers, recently went out of business due to low cost imports.  It scares me that our country seems to be getting out of the manufacturing business more and more.  I think this will only hurt us in the long run.  Personally, I am going to try harder to buy more American made products.  I would also like to start supporting US manufacturers in my future fishing purchases.  Does anybody know what rod brands, reel brands, line brands, and tackle brands are manufactured in the United States?

I couldnt agree more. Sad thing is its just simple economics. It costs allot less to make something like lures/rods/reels/line over seas and ship it here. The amount that the people actually making the products receive for pay a week is peanuts, compared to what an avg American would receive for pay for the same work. In around about way we (American consumers) are subsidizing the growth in 2nd and 3rd world countries that manufacturer the goods we buy.

[Alpster]

A country is only as strong as it's manufacturing base. We were victorious in both WWs because we could build it faster and better than anyone. Google 'Liberty Ships'. I will pay more for made in the USA.  JMHO

Ronnie

[frogtog]

Very few Americans, Very few American Companies and very little America left.

We are owned by foreign people, you would really be surprised at how much

of this country is owned by Americans anymore. :'(  So when do we step up

for our kids and grand kids.

[Guest avid]

Man, I truly hate when things like this come up.

It's so easy to be accused of being unpatriotic or anti american,

but all I can say if it wasn't for Japanese manufacturing practices,

we'd all be driving our Fords and chevys to the repair shop every week untill they finally fell apart at 50,000 miles.

there is a reason why foreign product do so well in the US. and it's not all about price.

In general :

most dependable cars - Japan

Most technologically sophisticated cars - Germany

electronics - Japan with Korea coming on strong.

most sophisticated fishing tackle - Japan

customer service politenes/ eager to please - India

the list could go on and on.  

Who took over the shrimp industry in the Gulf?    Vietnamese.

Why - worked harder, longer, demanded less, gave more.

Who took over the produce, raw fish retailing in New York - Koreans

Why.  worked harder, less whining for government handouts.

Who took over independent gas stations and mini markets  in America - turks, Pakistani's and other middle easterners.  

Why - harder working, less whining.

So it's not all about outsourcing "our" manufacturing to other countries.  It's got just as much to do with what America has always been about.

Foreigners coming here for a better life for their families and willing to bust their asz to do it, while we Americans, who enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the world,  cry about how "tough" we have it.

It's laughable how spoiled we are.

Avid has spoken  

PS - Honda's are built in Alabama

       John Deere is Japanese owned.

It ain't so easy figuring out what's "American" anymore.

[Alpster]

It's so easy to be accused of being unpatriotic or anti american,

This ain't an issue of patriotism. After the war, we taught the Japanese how to build cars and they beat us at our own game. God bless them! The free market is what made this country great and because we are spoiled and "entitled" it will be our undoing. We have raised a generation that takes no responsibility for their actions (it's always someone else's fault) and have elected lawyers to make our laws. We deserve what we get and more.

Off my soap box before the thread gets booted. SORRY!

Ronnie

[Pond Hopper]

Global minimum wage would fix alot of issues world wide

[Zel]

Avid, I don't disagree with what you said. I think much of it is the root of the problem. I do wonder why you hate it when things like this come up. I think things like this don't come up enough. Personally, I equate our outsourcing of the manufacturing process to the beginning of the fall of Rome. They outsourced their military machine to protect the empire, and we are outsourcing our manufacturing machine to protect our bottom line. Back then, when the political, socio, and economic climate changed, Rome was unable to recover and eventually fell. What happens if world matters change drastically today. Can we compensate and recover in our manufacturing capabilities? As an example, with the oil problems we face today, how long will it take us to build a refinery? And how could we even do it if we don't have any steel manufacturing processes left? I am much less worried that John Deere is Japanese owned, than if John Deere was manufactured in the far east. Transfer of ownership can happen in a second. How long would it take to build a John Deere if we didn't have tractor manufacturing capabilities already here, or even steel manufacturing decades maybe. And what would we do in the meantime? Thank God we never have to worry about that old saying about biting the hand that feeds you in the global environment Oh wait

I would never call you unpatriotic or anti-american. All I was saying was it scares me that so much of our manufacturing processes are leaving this country, and I wanted to do my little part to keep some here.

[justfishin]

I am starting to learn. I have been on this forum for awhile now and have a few post. I can tell you one thing, I would not touch this post for a million bucks,LOL. ;D

[Root beer]

American corporation sees one thing.."Money talks, Ethic walks."

My only thought on this is, if all of our manufactor process are in foreign countries how in world will our men and women here in American have a job?

My history teacher used to say things like "we are the world's baby sitter." I think she just might be right.

[Cajun1977]

My history teacher used to say things like "we are the world's baby sitter." I think she just might be right.

just out of curiousity what does that mean?

[Micro]

Hey dudes, slow down.

Being an "importer nation" isn't a bad thing.   It's a good thing.

The US is the world's largest importer of goods - by an unimaginable margin.  That's an indication of a very strong economy and a very strong economic system.   We buy the things we want at prices we can afford.  In turn, we support countries and economies that reinvest their money into the US system.  They buy our treasury bonds which allows the US to carry the debt it carries.  The US is the only country in the world that can carry a debt as large as we do.  The entire world is dependent upon us to import their stuff.  

We have it good, fellas, and don't forget it.  

Take the precarious predicament of EXPORTER nations.  There are countries in the world, like Germany, Japan and France (and China), whose economies are built on export.  Their economies would would be in dire straights if demand for their products dried up.  A full 1/4 of Germany's economy is dependant on exported goods.   If the world economy slows down, Germany (as well as other exporter nations) suffer disproportionately.  Conversely, exports account for only 10% of the US economy.

In essence, the Unitied States controls a principal portion of the world's economy by virtue of the fact that we import so much stuff.  We really do hold other nation's fates in our hands.  

Now consider this fact.  The US is also the worlds largest EXPORTER nation - by a huge margin.  (It's just not the principal portion of our economy - which is a good thing.)   The US exports all sorts of services and durable goods.  We are the leading exporter of electronic components, manufacturing machinery, aircraft, argicultural and industrial equipment, military equipment, and agricultural products (among other).   The US exports 3 times more goods than China does.   And we export expensive stuff - the machinery China uses to build their toys and VCRs.   Again, it is by virtue of the US that China does what it does.  

Protectionism is NOT a good thing.  Free market and competion is a good thing.  If you want to buy American, do it because the product is the best or presents the best value.  Don't do it because its American.   If the Japanese or German product is better, reward them with your business, and show the American competitor they have to do better.   Doing this is the best way to to ensure that America continues to be the most important country (economically speaking) in the world.    

[Maxximus Redneckus]

Id reply .....BUT when i get into politics seeems my post dissapear .Not only is America getting MORE dependant on other Countries  but censorship is becoming more common.I buy American whenever possible no matter what i buy nowdays i willl look to see made in USA that promotes me to buy as much of that product as possible the next go around .People talking bad about  AMERICAN car manufacturers .Seems to me i dont see any 55 Chevies or 69 camaros with any foreign parts and MANY MANY are still goin strong .Matter of fact model T fords are still being used WITHOUT ANY manufacturer problems ..HINT HINT i dont know when cars made in america started using foreign parts but i can telll ya this it had to be about the 70,s or 80s thats when we started having car and truck problems as soon as we depended  on other countries parts  now its even worse its a CONspiracy to get US out of making cars using FAULTY parts for our own stuff .take a small block chevy or ford the BLOCK it self is made in USA when u add 50 diff parts made anywear from china to japan to mexico of COURSE u are gonna have problems... ok im done back to fishing stuff  ;D ;D

[Cajun1977]

besides at a car show please tell me where your seeing 55 chevs and 69 camaros all over the place, apparantly still using the same manufactured parts from those years. And  im guessing the very first american mechanic was introduced to the U S since we started using foreign parts and had no need for one before.  

[Micro]

All this talk about off-shoring manufacturing jobs.... :-[

Of the major industrial nations - all of whom are "suffering from off-shoring manufacturing jobs" - the US has one of the lowest unemployment rates. That means that DESPITE the loss of manufacturing jobs, the unemployement rates stays low. Those workers that lost their jobs are finding alternative work.

The manufacturing jobs are going to countries with HIGH unemployment rates, the reason labor costs are cheap. These countries have economies BUILT on manufacturing and export. Their livelhoods are dependant upon our willingness to import their stuff. They are in precarious predicaments. They are very suseptible to down-swings in the world economy.

America, on the other hand, still manufactures a great many things. We build cars, and more heavy machinery than anyone else. As our dollar weakens against foreign currency, our own products become more attractive to foreign buyers. That's because the Euro or the Yen goes further in America when the dollar is weak than they do in Europe and Japan. If the dollar stays low, manufacturing in the US will increase because demand for our good will increase.

The rich nations run the world's economy. And the US is the richest - by far. Our economic system will ensure that continues to be so. Losing manufacturing jobs to China may seem hard to swallow - but it has to work that way in order for us to stay on top. it keeps us in control. Our system has to be allowed to work - and if it does it will keep us on top.

In some respect, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc aren't our competitors - they are our employees.  It's good to be the boss.

[Maxximus Redneckus]

besides at a car show please tell me where your seeing 55 chevs and 69 camaros all over the place, apparantly still using the same manufactured parts from those years. And im guessing the very first american mechanic was introduced to the U S since we started using foreign parts and had no need for one before.

My point was you dont see many cars from  the 70,s or 80,s compared to the 40,s50,s 60,s any way i have a few friends that drive 69,s as daily drivers >not my prob other countries were not even making cars THAT good back then to still be used today .Take a car made in the 60,s and one made now in 2007 do a minor fender bender see which car will still be operable and not need 5 gran in work to be done  

[Guest the_muddy_man]

besides at a car show please tell me where your seeing 55 chevs and 69 camaros all over the place, apparantly still using the same manufactured parts from those years. And im guessing the very first american mechanic was introduced to the U S since we started using foreign parts and had no need for one before.

My point was you dont see many cars from the 70,s or 80,s compared to the 40,s50,s 60,s any way i have a few friends that drive 69,s as daily drivers >not my prob other countries were not even making cars THAT good back then to still be used today .Take a car made in the 60,s and one made now in 2007 do a minor fender bender see which car will still be operable and not need 5 gran in work to be done

I am 56 years old and have been driving for 38 years. It is my experience that when i started driving back in the late 60's if a car had close to 50'000 miles on it . it was not long for the junk yard!!! I do not know what or where you are driving but my last 2 vechiles were going on 200,000 miles and still going! The cars today are EONS BETTER than those earlier cars!!!!!

[Maxximus Redneckus]

besides at a car show please tell me where your seeing 55 chevs and 69 camaros all over the place, apparantly still using the same manufactured parts from those years. And im guessing the very first american mechanic was introduced to the U S since we started using foreign parts and had no need for one before.

My point was you dont see many cars from the 70,s or 80,s compared to the 40,s50,s 60,s any way i have a few friends that drive 69,s as daily drivers >not my prob other countries were not even making cars THAT good back then to still be used today .Take a car made in the 60,s and one made now in 2007 do a minor fender bender see which car will still be operable and not need 5 gran in work to be done

I am 56 years old and have been driving for 38 years. It is my experience that when i started driving back in the late 60's if a car had close to 50'000 miles on it . it was not long for the junk yard!!! I do not know what or where you are driving but my last 2 vechiles were going on 200,000 miles and still going! The cars today are EONS BETTER than those earlier cars!!!!!

It could be the new oils and fuel 50 tho hard miles muddy im sure LOL .I been to lots of race tracks 1/4 mile and ovals and low and behold the AMERICAN cars seldom blow up as much as the foreign ones>All i can say is take it for what u will i see more newer model cars in junk yards then i see late models cars sitting in a 30 yr old woods  and i got a lot of old junk yards around here that have a lot of older car skeletons in other words with a little tlc it be a lot easier to fix them then a newer model in new junk yard .New car acccidents are BIG business now .You could make more money selling broken down newer cars then selling them brand new nowdays

[Guest the_muddy_man]

No it is better ignition systems, a cleaner and more complete burn, new alloys, better bearings, I have lived both rural and city and whatyou are saying is not my experience. The largest U pull it lot in the USA is Harrys in Hazleton PA and the junk heap there does not reflect what you are saying.

 Racing is a whole different and totally unrelated to everyday driving needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[justfishin]

Muddy, 56 years old !!!! Didn't you guys have cars like The Flintstones, just lift them up and run ? Sorry, hey wait, I will be 51 next month, never mind,lol. ;D

[dumb_dog11]

let other companies manufacture our products and let them be responsible for the HUGE amount of pollution, we do not want that in america

[drakedeming]

the simple probelm with american cars and japanese cars is this, in the early 80's with the introduction of mass electronic equipment into the car the japanese designed things much much better then the american engineers. Bottom line was thier electronics were more durable. As far as engine blocks and trans go I have had problems with both american and japanese cars but by far more problems with chrysler transmission - 5 of them. when my japanese trans would have problems it would simply be synchros in one gear and all the others were fine, the chrysler would just stop all together. when it comes to cars and all around performence and reliability then i go with japanese, when i want a off road vehicle I am getting a jeep(soon!!!!).