Vick..............

[HUNTER19]

I was just wondering what you guys thought of vick and the dog fighting scandal???

[squid]

I'll let ya know when they know the truth of the matter.  Right now my thoughts are.....

[Gatorbassman]

ditto

[roadwarrior]

This looks like a case of "GUILTY until proven innocent."  If what's been charged is true, Vick is through.

[Matt Fly]

Its really hard to wait for justice and the phrase, "innocent until proven guilty".

But if its true, Glen is gonna sensory me, and he hasn't had to do that in ages.

If Vick is innocent, then I'm guilty for not allowing due process, cause it don't look good in the early going.

I do feel that six years of investigation, and a "supposedly eye witness" that has said on interviews of bets worth $40,000, and 20-40 other proffessional atheletes that are also involved, and involved maybe just spectators or gamblers, that there are only 4 individuals charged, and thats Vick and his posse.

What about the other dog owners, and gamblers, shouldn't there have been more charges after six years of investigation.    That alone seems odd.     Are they gonna use other dog owners  to turn states evidence to fry Vick, cause they aren't mentioning anyone else.

Matt

[Siebert Outdoors]

a pic is worth a thousand words

;D

[KU_Bassmaster.]

Scum, scum scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ejtaylor822]

After seeing the Duke Lacrosse case, I am not trying to "rush to judgement" on this, but it doesn't look good.

I actually read the indicment - have had some free internet surf time of late   .  It looks pretty bad and dismal for Vick.  If only half of it is true, he has a very long road ahead of him.  Athough I guess it could be true that he really did not know what was going on there at the house, but, there are witnesses that place him at dog fights.  I think he, and his brother are just plain trouble.

However, in the end think this will go the way of Ray Lewis and the murders a few years ago in Atlanta.  He will go free and be more popular than ever in a few years.

[Avalonjohn44]

I heard that a drunk Lindsey Lohan drove Vick to the dogfights, and Brittney Spears was in the back seat with her kids on her lap rather than a seatbelt.  They were all just getting back from an Anna Nicole Smith tribute.

[preach4bass]

I heard that a drunk Lindsey Lohan drove Vick to the dogfights, and Brittney Spears was in the back seat with her kids on her lap rather than a seatbelt. They were all just getting back from an Anna Nicole Smith tribute.

;D ;D ;D  That's pretty good!

I don't care whether he did it or not, he's done so much dumb (and illegal) stuff I have lost all respect for Ron Mexoco...I, I mean Mr. Vick. ;D

[Clayton]

I have tried to decide one way or another.  For me I do feel this man deserves an honest innocent until proven guilty trial but in the courts of public opinion it will be hard to get that.  The indictment is very thourough from what I hear and is bad bad bad for vick.  If he did it I would not be surprised, there are to many NFL players that are doing things that disgrace the league.  There has been alot of illegal activities going on in this sport here lately it seems to me.  Maybe the commisioner should clean house and start throwing the book at these guys.

[Fisher of Men]

Just more proof that you can take the kid out of the street, but you can't take the street out of the kid.

I don't want to sound racist, but if you've ever watched MTV cribs, nearly every rap artist and professional athlete has a kennel of Pit Bulls in their back yard. I have to agree with what one former athlete said on ESPN the other day. This is probably quite a BIGGER problem than we know and may involve MANY professional athletes. I, like others, will try and keep an open mind about this. But, if Vick and others are implicated, they should have the book thrown at them. Just my .02.

-Fisher

BTW, that photoshop pic of Vick being chased by a pit bull is funny! ;D Perhaps a hint of the punishment he might receive for this (if he's guilty, of course).

[Replica.]

Just wondering if anyone agrees with Joe Horns view of dogfighting and hunting. It sounds like he has been hanging out with PETA.

"I'm not saying that dogfighting is good. I feel like all animals should be created equal. I'm not trying to make an excuse for dogfighting, but it's OK for lawyers, doctors, average person to get a gun to slaughter a bear, kill a deer, go hunting. It's legal. I think that's wrong. They say you should be thrown in jail for dogfighting. I think you should be thrown in jail if you fight chickens. You should get thrown in jail [if you] take out your .30-06 and shoot Bambi in the head."

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/printedition/2007/07/22/joehorn.html

[FishTank]

My former neighbor used to breed pit bulls that were true monsters.  They came from a special blood line that was know for strength and muscle density.  Everytime I saw a puppy leave his house I would wonder when it would end up in a dog fight.  But the good side is not all of these dogs are bad by nature, my father-in-law has one of my ex-neighbors dogs and she is a sweet and gentle 11 year old.  So I guess it is up to the owner to be held accountable.  In Vicks case the evidence points to guilt so much he has been banned by the NFL from participaiting, Nike has suspended his shoe contract and is pulling all of his merchandice from their shelves, Reebok has stopped production of his jersey, and Donruss will not produce a football card for him next year.  Vick is a multi-million dollar investment for several companies and their decisions did not come lightly or with out a significant amount of cash lost.  Guilty or not in a court of law, the door is closing on Vicks career as a football player.  The court of public opinoin has spoken and acted quickly.  This is a scar on the NFL that will never go away because it brings a player's "lifestyle" into direct question.  Look at this way, if Vick is guilty of having illegal dog fights at his home and with 52 other players on his team and with  thousands of other NFL players, staff and ex-players, who else might end up in the public opinion guilty pool.  This thing is just beginning.......

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

If he is found guilty, I think they should let 6-8 of his dogs decide his fate.  

[HUNTER19]

I think if found guilty the NFL should start putting some type of character cluase in the contracts. There are to many thugs in the NFL in my oppinion. :-/ :-/

[FishingBuds]

would you take a chance and mess up your contract thats worth millions :-?

its sad how these athletes turn out but, they are taught that way aren't they. pass thru the school system no problem. sad :-/

with rape,drugs and murder from the athletes makes Pete Rose look like a flower child.

[Rattlinrogue]

I don't know if he's guilty or not(although it looks pretty evident to any 3 year old),but I'm a dog lover and detest any coward that beats,tortures,or kills a dog because it didn't win a dog fight.I think we're dealing with scum of the earth.

[5bass]

As a follower of Vicks career here at Virginia Tech and beyond it makes me sick to know that the guy has so much talent and natural ability but lacks so badly in the brain department......just like his little brother Marcus. At least Mike was smart enough to get PAID first, then screw it all up unlike Marcus who just couldnt wait to let his true thug colors shine through.

I have washed my hands of Mike, the things he did to those dogs is dispicable and I have absolutely NO RESPECT for him anymore. I hope his buddies roll on him in court and he has to pull his fair share of time in prison. Enjoy Mike!

[bubbler]

vick's family has a history if this stuff.

no afence to his family but hew is a bunk who can throw a football.

i love him when he plays but i dont like him a person

[HUNTER19]

As a follower of Vicks career here at Virginia Tech and beyond it makes me sick to know that the guy has so much talent and natural ability but lacks so badly in the brain department......just like his little brother Marcus. At least Mike was smart enough to get PAID first, then screw it all up unlike Marcus who just couldnt wait to let his true thug colors shine through.

I have washed my hands of Mike, the things he did to those dogs is dispicable and I have absolutely NO RESPECT for him anymore. I hope his buddies roll on him in court and he has to pull his fair share of time in prison. Enjoy Mike!

Couldn't agree more with you. I dont understand how vick could be this stupid!!! I used to love watchin vick and collected his cards and have lost every bit of respect for him.

[squid]

I think you should be thrown in jail if you fight chickens. You should get thrown in jail [if you] take out your .30-06 and shoot Bambi in the head."

I agree...I don't think you should shoot Bambi either...I want a BIG BUCK...lol...one with 10 - points...measures a good 180 or more...lol

[BadKarma42]

One if his co-defendants is supposed to take a plea agreement today and enter a giulty plea.  

Perhaps he is the first to roll.

Hopefully he will be able to provide details that will take care of Vick.

(I think I might draft Joey Harrington as a sleeper pick in my fantasy draft!)

[Matt Fly]

One if his co-defendants is supposed to take a plea agreement today and enter a giulty plea.

Perhaps he is the first to roll.

Hopefully he will be able to provide details that will take care of Vick.

(I think I might draft Joey Harrington as a sleeper pick in my fantasy draft!)

Don't do it!!!!   Joey had more talent in Detriot in the recieving core and couldn't get it done, he never had a line to block, but his confidence has been shot.    Unless the WR's have learned to catch or been upgraded, Crumpler the only one who can catch consistently.  

Joey is not the same guy who plaed in Oregon, the boy had moxy coming out of college.   Getting hit, and knocked down in Detroit has hurt his confidence.

Matt    

[BadKarma42]

Ah, but he put up fantasy numbers in Miami last year!

Joe Horn isn't that old yet  

New coach, new team...he has all the makings of an 11th round pick!!