Cephkiller Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Is it just me, or are there too many newbies around here intent on disrespecting senior members? In just the past week I can recall newbs insulting roadwarrior, Raul and Avid. I'm sure there have been more, but these come immediately to mind. I know when I started here 2+ years ago, I lurked for a while and then gently joined the fray and tried to develop a sense of belonging before I let my true colors show A lot of guys seem to have joined lately and came in with their guns a blazin'. Maybe it's no worse than it ever was, but it sure seems like it to me. Quote
mattm Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Ceph, shut up you giant A hole. J/k, that was a complete joke. I'm obviously a newbie and am so pumped up about this site I love posting my opinions. They are just that opinions I hope nobody has taken them the wrong way. I've tried to be very careful with my posts and make sure there was not a chance of offending anyone. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize if my over eagerness in this site has come across disrespectful or as a know it all. I'm doing this b/c I have noticed a couple of cases that I would consider blatantly disrespectful to both very senior members and newbies, and don't want to be responsble for doing either one. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Like I've always said. If you call someone out and tease them you better be able to handle it. Someone trying to pick on Avid or Raul are in for a game that they probably didnt want to start. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted June 8, 2007 Super User Posted June 8, 2007 Ceph, I am so glad you posted this, I was trying to get enough strength to post something very similar. In no way do I consider myself a senior member to this site, most people don't even know who I am. (probably because I read WAY more than I post) But I have been here long enough to respect all of our senior members here. They have helped me so much this past year, and to see people messing with this great forum, just brings tears to my eyes. People here aren't only co-members to me, but also my friends. Even though we don't know each other that well. Quote
Fish Man Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 like hookemdown said i dont consider myself a senior member either despite my post count because ive only been on since february but i hate it when anyone offends a fellow member or abuses the site.also i hate when others call out people when they have never met and dont even know the person they are calling out .....hate to see such a great place being misused by others :'( Quote
bassdocktor Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Ceph, it seems to go that way every know and then. Over the last 2 years I haven't always been able to post alot because of school but I always try to read posts and see what is going on. From what I see there are a lot of people that come and go. A few of the ones that people see as disrespectful make alot of posts in the beginning and then just disappear. On the flip side you'll never see a post about the new people that come and don't cause problems. You eventually just see more posts by them and references to their posts. bassdocktor Quote
Guest the_muddy_man Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Hey Ceph: What do you expect everyone to be as eloquent as you when disagreement arises I think, having looked at some other sites that the climate on the net is somewhat rude. We do not have to be moderators to help keep this place together. I have had my moments and both Mods and Senior memebers came to my aid and let me know what is expected around here. We need to lead by example, and I think it is OK for us to step up and say NOT IN THIS HOOD! 8-) The forum is growing rapidly and their has been an edginess to it. Onr thing I have found it is OK to notify the Mods and they will handle things. Sometimes I even open up my big Yap, but we were all newcomers and each newcomer deseves a break until they become impossible. The real problems leave or get bounced anyway Quote
Low_Budget_Hooker Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 No worries Ceph, the personalities you speak of never stick around long. Quote
bassdocktor Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Muddy brings up a great point the Mods and Glenn really keep the place in line. When there are problems they always take care of them as soon as possible, and it always seems like one of them is on here. Occasionally, I log in at some weird times and someone is always here. They truly do a great job and watch over this place to keep it from turning into the places that many people have left. Also like he said the members alot of times really step up and keep an eye out as well. Quote
Troutfisher Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Well, I'm mad because I recently challenged Roland Martin to a fishing tournament, and after schooling him, and winning $500, he ruined my fishing trip. ;D " http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1180580693 " Quote
MattStrykul Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I agree, this messageboard is definetly kept inline. Quote
Cephkiller Posted June 8, 2007 Author Posted June 8, 2007 I know this board is in overall good shape. I've been talked down a few times by Glenn and the mods myself. I am also not immune to a spirited debate. I just get a little irritated when someone we don't even "know" gets uppity. Quote
Cajun1977 Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 well i dont wanna see anyone disrespect anyone else,, but what in the world does being a senoirmember or having a high post count matter if someones disrespecting a newbie thats ok but dont do it to someone with a highpost count,that makes absolutley no sense to me. and if im reading your post wrong i apologize,but thats the way it sounded to me Quote
Guest the_muddy_man Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Hey Cajun as for me I believe everyone is equal and all should be treated with kindness : Quote
Cajun1977 Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 that is what i implied muddy as when i said i dont wanna see noone get disrespected Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted June 9, 2007 Super User Posted June 9, 2007 I guess I was a little wrong when I said "senior member". I don't look at the status of post count of the person, but how he/she acts and posts here. It's all about street cred. Quote
skillet Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I have seen a few posts (not just new guys) that definitely could have been worded better Ceph >. The worst were really mild compared to what I've seen on other boards. I'm not positive of the ones you mentioned but I try to put some of it down to not being able to hear voice quality or facial expressions (the others you have to just consider the source ;D).... As Ever, skillet Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted June 9, 2007 BassResource.com Administrator Posted June 9, 2007 While the mods and I do try to rove around and read the posts, we may miss a few every now and then. Feel free to contact the mods and I if you are concerned about a particular thread, or actions by an individual. Calling something to our attention is always helpful. Thanks! Glenn Quote
bassboy1 Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 I have seen a few posts (not just new guys) that definitely could have been worded better Ceph >. The worst were really mild compared to what I've seen on other boards. I'm not positive of the ones you mentioned but I try to put some of it down to not being able to hear voice quality or facial expressions (the others you have to just consider the source ;D).... As Ever, skillet As with you, I don't think that they mean to be mean. As for not seeing facial expression/ hearing tone, I think that is just accidental. I have tried a few times, and what is extremely funny when said in a sarcastic voice, can make one sound like a complete buttwad on paper (or computer screen). I thought I had screwed myself on the BBC a few times. I think these people are just trying to pull a Muddy or Avid, or are just mooks and don't know it, and just lack the ability to express humor on paper. Hence why I don't use humor as much, 'specially on the BBC, as they don't take it as humor as I am (as far as I know) the youngest one on there. It don't matter how many smilies I use, they take it seriously. On here, the group is much better, and wont tear you apart for misunderstood humor from a youngun, as there are more of us. But to sum it up, many are pulling a mook move, and are reproached for it, due to post count and such. Just my 5 cents worth. (Inflation) Quote
Fisher of Men Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 I get where you're coming from Ceph. Also, to agree with Muddy, it's probably something we will have to put up with as we grow more rapidly and that the intent of most of these posters is not to offend others, just a strong desire to "fit in". Yes, the keyboard is pretty emotionless. Because of this, I think good advice to new posters (and ALL of us) is to REALLY think twice before typing our posts. Look into them and make sure there's nothing that will offend others. Take time to read and re-read before hitting the "post" button. And remember that it takes time and credible posts to develop a good relationship with others around here, just as it takes time to be accepted in the social world. Also use the smiley's. They are the only way to indicate your emotional intent. 8-) That great consideration and respect for the fellowman is what sets the BR community apart from other places on the 'net. Let's all try and keep up this atmosphere! Quote
Guest avid Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 We need to lead by example, and I think it is OK for us to step up and say NOT IN THIS HOOD! I think the mudster hit the nail on the head. Every message board has a culture. Ours is characterized by a sensible catch and release mindset, strict compliance with all game laws, respect for others property, an aprreciation of nature, fellowship, and a sense of humor, to name a few. I can, and have gotten cranky when I see someone break one of the unwritten rules of the forum. And like Muddy I think it is important that we let folks know what BassResource.com stands for. but leading by example with an occasional gentle kick in the butt is what seems to have worked best for all the time I have been around. LBH correctly pointed out that the flamers and others who can't live with the comradierie and decency of this site are usually quick to move on. BassResource.com rocks Quote
Super User Catt Posted June 11, 2007 Super User Posted June 11, 2007 There have been times I could have sworn Glenn was clairvoyant, he fussed at me before I've said it, and I just smile, agree and move on. It has been said God gave us 2 ears and 1 mouth so we would listen twice as much as we talk. That's why I start every day with Dear God; please put your arms around my shoulders and your hand over my mouth. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 12, 2007 Super User Posted June 12, 2007 That great consideration and respect for the fellow man is what sets the BR community apart from other places on the 'net. Let's all try and keep up this atmosphere! 8-) Quote
Guest Bountiful_Waters Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 This thread is somewhat going down the path of one of my recent fatherly speaches to the kids. With today's technology (text messaging, myspace, etc..) folks are unlearning people skills. It is so easy to be compeltely beligerant when using this technology. I told the kids "if you cannot in good conscience say what is on your mind to a person in their presence, don't say it via the texting". I am shocked at how these kids talk to each other. I monitor what's going on when at all possible. I would have never said things to another person like these kids are saying (typing). These message boards are no different. I wonder how much of the negative comments would not exist if we were all in the same room having these discussions. Quote
Bassassasin12 Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Some of the guys in this thread have nailed it right on the head. What LBH said is defenitly true. Those guys coming in here and starting stuff right off the bat hardly ever last. One other thing I hope doesn't come from this thread is newbies trying to make a bunch of posts just to make it look like they are "senior members." You will get a lot more respect my making useful posts instead of just plain dumb stuff. Quote
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