Champion boxer v. champion Ulimate fighter

[Guest avid]

I decided to start this thread myself.

I'ts hard to compare fighters when the styles not to mention the rules are completley different.

I think that quality boxers are much better trained, more highly skilled and have superior fitness.

UFC fighters are shock and awe.  They are strong and want to end it quick - always.

the whole submission business would completely work against a boxer, but on thier feet it would be no contest.  A skilled boxer would prevail.

I just think it would beboring.  The boxer would want to stay up and box, the UF would be trying for take downs.  Not a compatible mix of styles. IMO

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Im glad you started this new thread Avid i wanted so much to take your other one on the fight itself hostage!!!!!!! When Michael Jordan, the greatest BasketBall Player of his generation wanted to play MLB, all the writers were picking out where his place would be in the line-up. Figuring he played college Ball and he is this great athlete he has to do well. The MLB pitchers werent impressed with his 3 point shot ( A totally useless skill on a diamond) and one of them threw a curve ball and he looked like Dave Winfild chasin a 78mph changeup!!!! He saw nothing but curveballs and breaking balls after that and never got to the MLB Level

Thats what comparing these two forms of fighting is like . Both are fighting arts, but the skills needed to do each are vastlty different. I would think most UFC  fighters limited to Boxing rules wouldnt do all that well as would boxers in UFB

 Why dont we just have Joe Montana pitch to A Rod and see what happens next ;D

[michbass]

If it was UFC rules the boxer would not much of a chance against submission holds. Someone like Royce Gracie in his day could have any boxer tapping out providing of course he was able to safely get him down without a punch. I think the UFC is all there is left for decent fighting. Boxing just isnt there anymore. I don't think boxing can survive without a big name heavyweight.  :

[RecMar8541]

From a strategic stand point.  I believe the UFC fighter wouldnt fair well in the boxing ring, a large part of his arsenal is removed.  However I dont think a Boxer would fair well in UFC because a larger arsenal is not developed.  Like the man said comparing apples to oranges.

[hi_steel_basser]

If they met in a pure boxing match, the boxer would probably win. Anywhere else, the UFC guy beats the boxer's bleep.

[Catt]

Having held 3 Golden Glove Titles (Middleweight) & 4 Full Contact Shotokan Karate Titles (1st Ikkyu Brown) it would depend on if the boxer could stay on his feet; if not it would be over quickly. Then again if the UFC fighter was Chuck The Iceman Liddell it might still be over for the boxer. Boxers don't have the killer instinct required to compete in the UFC, neither do most Martial Artist.

[.ghoti.]

Apples and oranges, man.

Put "em in a boxing ring and the boxer would win.

Put "em in a cage and the MMA would win.

Put "em in a street fight and the lawyers would win.

[Guest hibachi]

Obviously in a boxing match the boxer would win.  In any other form of fighting, other than pure boxing, I don't think a boxer would have anything more than "a puncher's chance."  In other words, the boxer's only chance of winning would be to catch the MMA fighter with a haymaker that seriously stuns or knocks him out.  I also have to disagree with you saying the boxer is more athletic and highly trained.  Have you ever watched MMA fighting?  The premier fighters train 6-7 days/week 5-8 hours a day in 3-4 different styles of fighting.  They are the greatest athletes on Earth, IMO.  Personally I love MMA because any boxer at any time can step in the ring and "TRY" if they want.  I love to see all the different styles of fighting go at it.  It's my favorite sport to watch, and I hope it makes boxing obsolete.  

[jayhawkfishin]

This is two different things like said before but i feel some of the ufc fighters would do better in a plain boxing match than we are giving credit.  

Those ufc fghters are tough as nails.  They would come after the boxer like crazy just throwing punch after punch.  The gloves they wear in ufc look like nothing and they get hit all day with those, a boxers punch with those big gloves on i don't think would do a lot of damage.  

[edbassmaster]

UFC rules...UFC fighter all the way, take down...ground and pound. Boxing rules...depends on the UFC fighter, many UFC fighters were one time pro boxers and many of them have excellent boxing skills like Stephan Bonner,  Rashad Evans and Anderson Silva.

[Maxximus Redneckus]

Obviously in a boxing match the boxer would win. In any other form of fighting, other than pure boxing, I don't think a boxer would have anything more than "a puncher's chance." In other words, the boxer's only chance of winning would be to catch the MMA fighter with a haymaker that seriously stuns or knocks him out. I also have to disagree with you saying the boxer is more athletic and highly trained. Have you ever watched MMA fighting? The premier fighters train 6-7 days/week 5-8 hours a day in 3-4 different styles of fighting. They are the greatest athletes on Earth, IMO. Personally I love MMA because any boxer at any time can step in the ring and "TRY" if they want. I love to see all the different styles of fighting go at it. It's my favorite sport to watch, and I hope it makes boxing obsolete.

I agree completely with all you have said Them MMA fighters from Brazil and Russia train inside there mommy's womb boxers usually start out late as a child i don't think there are programs in America to train kids 2 and 3 for boxing  but MMA its a family tradition don't see many boxers with a harem of family and 4 or 5 generations standing on the sides as u do MMA fighters.Most boxers have good cardio and fast arms thats about it

[5bass]

I'd take Chuck Liddell standing with a pro boxer any day of the week. If he lands solid with either hand its lights out for the poor boxer.

That punk Mayweather wants to fight Sean Sherk..... ;D  He might want to rethink that one......Sherk will take some of Mayweather's little punches to get the takedown, then its game on! Bend him up, feed him some elbows, tap him out.

Boxing is circling the drain....sad but true.

Has anyone heard about Vince McMahon trying to buy into the UFC? I hope that doesnt happen because he'll try to fake it up like wrestling.

[Maxximus Redneckus]

I hope not... Vince has the money too do it also .This is when we will see who is a sell out amoung UFC fighters sad thing is in one hand vince will hold out a mill bucks to be fake or 20 tho in the other hand to be real

[Catt]

What's being missed here is the definition of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts), no one style will prevail over another. Boxing alone will not do it but neither will Martial Arts alone get it done, but combine 2 or 3 styles of fighting now you have some thing.

Again I'll say most Boxers or Martial Artist lack the killer instinct to win in MMA, look at the De La Hoya vs. Mayweather fight one would land a punch stunning the other and they would maybe follow it up with a 3 or 4 punch combination only to back off. Now look at a Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, or Royce Gracie once they hurt you it's over. I don't think this instinct can be taught I believe you're born with it; another perfect example would be Sugar Ray Leonard.

[Siebert Outdoors]

I do believe that UFC guys are tougher then any of the other ones.  It does depend on the fighter though.  You cant take a submission fighter and put him in a boxing ring.  Because of their toughness he would do better then taking a boxer and putting him in a UFC fight against the same guy.    Lidel probably could box and have a good career doing it.  His fit more for UFC though.  No boxing poeple want to pay big bucks to see lidel hit a guy once and then go home like UFC.

[edbassmaster]

Fivebasslimit is right...boxing is circling the drain. I grew up a huge boxing fan...till about 10 years ago when I rented my first UFC fight from Blockbuster...bye bye boxing!! Boxing= Boring fights and Bad Decisions. UFC = Non Stop Adrenaline Rush!!

Ive seen many boxing matches where the fighters hug for 12 rounds, not in UFC. John Mcarthy will make guys fight if they are putzin around.

[Guest hibachi]

I also wanted to add this.  I too was once a big boxing fan, but after paying 50 bucks to watch 3 PPV fights in a row that were so blatantly obviously fixed I completely lost interest in boxing.  In boxing, it doesn't seem to matter how bad the champion is dominated during the fight, if he has charisma and fans willing to pay to watch, the only way to get the belt is to knock him out.  Who knows how much Don King is paying those judges??? Then with the resurgence of the UFC under Zuffa and President Dana White, to me, I don't see how boxing will ever recover.  What sealed the deal for me is about six months ago I paid $35 to see the Ortiz vs. Shamrock fight on PPV and the main event only went one round with a stoppage due to Shamrock being unable to defend himself.  I thought it was a good call, and the fights in the undercard alone were worth the money.  But, some people thought that the stoppage was pre-mature, so Dana White (in his infinite wisdom) set up a rematch on free TV for the world to enjoy.  Then UFC 70, one of the better PPV cards I've seen in a while was also free to Americans on Spike.  That would NEVER happen in boxing, and this is why boxing is going to be a memory when my kids have kids.