LaDrunka

[Hookemdown.]

Well, if you haven't hear, Cardinal's manager Tony LaRussa just go arrested for a DUI.  

Now I'm a die hard Red Sox fan, but this happening to any respectable person in baseball just makes me sick.  

What do you think?

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Sports/20070322-091040-7819r/

[KU_Bassmaster.]

The way he was found is what does it for me.  There is a difference between "legally drunk" and WASTED.  He was WASTED.  So irresponsible.

[Marty]

I was pretty surprised. That stuff is (unfortunately) expected from players, but coaches/managers are (and should be) held To a different standard.

[srv1990]

According to news report (and assuming they are accurate) his BAC was 0.093, just slightly over the legal limit of 0.08. I'm not sure that qualifies as "wasted", and in fact could easily happen with not much more than a couple glasses of wine at dinner. If, after a very long day and a late dinner with wine it certainly is not beyond reason that someone could dose off at a stop light.

I'm in no way condoning what Tony did, or trying to make excuses, he was wrong and we all know it. As an outsider looking in it appears he has always held himself, and his team, to very high standards. He made a mistake and I'm willing to bet he is very remorseful for it. But having done stupid things before in my life I will not throw stones at Tony, or anyone else.

Tom

[Panamoka_Bassin]

I think its good that he got caught, I don't condone DWI at all (which is weird seeing as I'm a bartender...).  This should not be a baseball issue, though, it is purely a police matter and should be addressed as such.  If the MLB DOES get involved, I will be annoyed.  They truly have no jurisdiction over the matter, and its only because of the media that this has gotten any play at all.  This doesn't mean I don't think he should be reprimanded by the Cardinals, they are his employers after all, but the MLB should keep their nose out and put their efforts into more productive areas, like finding a reliable test for HGH and steroids.  Besides, when baseball gets involved, people get away with big crimes without much of a penalty.  Remember Steve Howe?  How many times did he get busted for cocaine yet never went to prison?  Let the law handle the law and baseball handle baseball things.  'nuff said...

[Marty]

This is a table of estimated number of drinks to reach a certain blood alcohol percentage. If Tony weighs 160 pounds, it would take four drinks to reach .09. Yes, he made a mistake, but he also acted irresponsibly and endangered other peoples' lives. He deserves whatever he gets.

http://www.ohioduiattorney.com/drinks.html

[flechero]

According to news report (and assuming they are accurate) his BAC was 0.093, just slightly over the legal limit of 0.08.  I'm not sure that qualifies as "wasted", and in fact could easily happen with not much more than a couple glasses of wine at dinner.  If, after a very long day and a late dinner with wine it certainly is not beyond reason that someone could dose off at a stop light.

I'm in no way condoning what Tony did, or trying to make excuses, he was wrong and we all know it.  As an outsider looking in it appears he has always held himself, and his team, to very high standards.  He made a mistake and I'm willing to bet he is very remorseful for it.  But having done stupid things before in my life I will not throw stones at Tony, or anyone else.

Tom

That's a shocking response, even for a fan.  So what if he was only at .093, he WAS OUT OF CONTROL or he wouldn't have been asleep in the car at a stop light.  I define wasted as out of control.  If you were drunk and arrested in the same manner, I'd also say you were out of control.  Legally drunk and drunk are not the same, he may have been "drunk" at much less than .093 since everyone is different, the .08 is only a prosecutorial standard.  He could have just as easily "dosed off" at 80 mph... what then?

I've also done some stupid things in my life, but there is a difference in pointing out that he could have killed someone perfectly innocent, than there is stoning the guy....   I'm willing to bet if the circumstances involved him running over one of your family members, you would have a different response.  Having been personally affected by a drunk driver, I probably have a different take on this than a Cardinal's fan.

no offense intended.

[srv1990]

He deserves whatever he gets

You're right, he does deserve whatever he gets... which I'm guessing is the same thing any of us would want if we put ourselves in a similar situation: 1) A chance to apologize, sincerely, in public and to the national media (which he has done, although few people would ever hear about our poor judgement); 2) To be dealt with fairly, within the confines of the law; and 3) Be allowed to make whatever restitution was deemed appropriate by the court.

Driving while intoxicated is wrong, and illegal. Something much more serious could have happened to himself or someone else... thank God it didn't. But Tony is no different than any of us here - except for the perfect one's who have never made a mistake. He's a stand-up guy who has and will handle this the right way. I'd like to know how many others who are in the public's eye would.

Tom

[srv1990]

According to news report (and assuming they are accurate) his BAC was 0.093, just slightly over the legal limit of 0.08. I'm not sure that qualifies as "wasted", and in fact could easily happen with not much more than a couple glasses of wine at dinner. If, after a very long day and a late dinner with wine it certainly is not beyond reason that someone could dose off at a stop light.

I'm in no way condoning what Tony did, or trying to make excuses, he was wrong and we all know it. As an outsider looking in it appears he has always held himself, and his team, to very high standards. He made a mistake and I'm willing to bet he is very remorseful for it. But having done stupid things before in my life I will not throw stones at Tony, or anyone else.

Tom

That's a shocking response, even for a fan. So what if he was only at .093, he WAS OUT OF CONTROL or he wouldn't have been asleep in the car at a stop light. I define wasted as out of control. If you were drunk and arrested in the same manner, I'd also say you were out of control. Legally drunk and drunk are not the same, he may have been "drunk" at much less than .093 since everyone is different, the .08 is only a prosecutorial standard. He could have just as easily "dosed off" at 80 mph... what then?

I've also done some stupid things in my life, but there is a difference in pointing out that he could have killed someone perfectly innocent, than there is stoning the guy.... I'm willing to bet if the circumstances involved him running over one of your family members, you would have a different response. Having been personally affected by a drunk driver, I probably have a different take on this than a Cardinal's fan.

no offense intended.

I'm not really sure why my response is "shocking". If you re-read both my posts I am clear that it was wrong what he did, it's illegal and he's very fortunate something much worse didn't happen. I'm just stating my opinion, which is he deserves to be dealt with fairly.

You're right, as a Cardinal fan my opinion will differ from yours... just as it will differ from the Red Sox fan who made the initial post. And I have never been affected by a drunk driver, which should have far more impact on our opinions than which team we cheer for.

No offense taken, I respect everyone's viewpoint.

Tom