Situation Senko

[PWE]

I find it amazing that you guys all catch with them.  I wish I could catch like you guys describe with them.  Just to get some experience behind the wheel so to speak.  My experience with senkos has been totally negative in respect to catching fish.  My roboworm seemed to work where there were clearly fish yesterday and my senkos just got ignored.  If I walk a bank here in Cali. I won't go 100 yards without seeing someone's discarded senkos - everyone uses them everyday here.  I sort of hate them for that reason.  I also think fish here might grow shy to them, if not already.  I am experimenting with drop shotting the 3" model today.  For worms I just love the action of the roboworms - they look incredible in the water.  Rigged in a variety of ways they can do almost amazing actions.  

As a new guy to bass I still struggle with the idea that a 2lb fish, which seem to be the average daily bass catch size, will actually pick up a 6" or 7" senko - seems just to big.  I can't help feeling they want to gobble down a nice small easy pickings worm or grub.  Also, right now I would rather catch 12 small fish for experience than go 2 months to catch one 5lber.  

I do need more experience though.

[jbasscus]

Anytime..............IMHO

[roadwarrior]

I find it amazing that you guys all catch with them. I wish I could catch like you guys describe with them. Just to get some experience behind the wheel so to speak. My experience with senkos has been totally negative in respect to catching fish. My roboworm seemed to work where there were clearly fish yesterday and my senkos just got ignored. If I walk a bank here in Cali. I won't go 100 yards without seeing someone's discarded senkos - everyone uses them everyday here. I sort of hate them for that reason. I also think fish here might grow shy to them, if not already. I am experimenting with drop shotting the 3" model today. For worms I just love the action of the roboworms - they look incredible in the water. Rigged in a variety of ways they can do almost amazing actions.

As a new guy to bass I still struggle with the idea that a 2lb fish, which seem to be the average daily bass catch size, will actually pick up a 6" or 7" senko - seems just to big. I can't help feeling they want to gobble down a nice small easy pickings worm or grub. Also, right now I would rather catch 12 small fish for experience than go 2 months to catch one 5lber.

I do need more experience though.

You must be fishing too fast:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1158577137

8-)

[Avalonjohn44]

I rarely throw them first. If I can't pull a crankbait through it, then I'll move to a spinnerbait, then a trickworm or a sluggo first.  Then I'll throw a senko style bait.  Every once in a while I'll start with a senko, but not too often.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Out of interest - those that stated "never" can you say why?  This is such a tried and tested lure - what's the reason you seem to so strongly dislike them?

It's not so much a matter of them not liking them as much as the folks not wanting to be caught using the bait ANYONE can catch with.  There's not much talent needed to catch fish with these and some feel it reflects on their skill to still be in the running but not because of the trick stick because they are versatile enough to still compete WITHOUT it.  Many people have won tourny's on Trick sticks and think they are good when in fact they are very limited, closed minded anglers, I think these guys want to avoid being lumped in with that class.

 Personally, I'll use what catches, I have nothing to prove to anyone.

:-?

That is not the reason I do not fish them, I simply do not like fishing that slow. Do they catch fish? yes. Do I leave a fish or two behind by not 'finishing' a spot with a Senko/Trick Stick/Yum Dinger/etc?  Probably.  Am I ok with that?  Yes.

FD

Makes alot of sense, they just don't fit your style.  There are more like you I'm sure but many haters for the aforementioned reasons also.  I can relate to your reasoning though.  It's not MY style, but I can relate.

[rondef]

They may not last a long time but they catch bass when other plastics will not. I caught a lot of bass throwing swim senkos last year and know I will do the same this year. They have out performed every other plastic I have thrown.

[roadwarrior]

They may not last a long time but they catch bass when other plastics will not. I caught a lot of bass throwing swim senkos last year and know I will do the same this year. They have out performed every other plastic I have thrown.

Wait a minute...We have had a pretty interesting discussion so far, let's stay on track.

This is not another "Senko vs. your favorite" thread...

Please.

8-)

[rondef]

Sorry RW I was just trying to say that I can catch a lot of bass throwing senkos.

[BassFishingMachine]

I don't like senkos or any cigar bait, I still use them, but I try to avoid using them. There are a few reasons I don't like them, number 1 everyone and their mother throws them, pretty much constantly. Number 2, they are extremely easy to fish, and you barely have to work them, I like a bait that requires you to work it more, and make it a little more challenging to catch a fish, I simply like a bit of a challenge. And don't say you don't cause we'd all be throwing live shiners if there weren't the case  !

But like I stated sometimes I will use them regardless. I do not like doing it.. but it tends to be habitual, and I will often try a bit of other things before falling back on it, also it is NOT my #1 go-to bait, that would be a GYCB Kut-Tail. I'll throw senkos/cigar baits in open water with little to no cover, or creek channels/rivers. Those areas are where the senko seems to shine best for me. Anywhere else I usually always have a bait that works better.

[rondef]

I throw the swim senkos in the grass mats in the Potomac most of the time.  But they have also caught me fish in other waters.  I disagree that anyone can catch a bass with them because I know people who still have yet to catch a bass with senkos.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

I throw the swim senkos in the grass mats in the Potomac most of the time.  But they have also caught me fish in other waters.  I disagree that anyone can catch a bass with them because I know people who still have yet to catch a bass with senkos.

Are they casting from the parking lot and not reaching the water??  

[rondef]

LBH, you may find that funny but I don't.  Not every one is an expert bass fisherman like you.  I am sure there is some bait you have yet to master.  I know I can admit that I have still have much to learn about different baits and techniques.

[wgilfus81]

In my limited experience, the Senko is the closest to a "sure thing" bait as Ive found. Any condition, any water, it just flat out catches fish

[mattm]

LBH, you may find that funny but I don't.  Not every one is an expert bass fisherman like you.  I am sure there is some bait you have yet to master.  I know I can admit that I have still have much to learn about different baits and techniques.

Relax.  LBH is just kidding.  I saw a thread just recently where LBH back hand complimented himself by saying he fished trick sticks b/c he was only an average fisherman.

It took me about 6 months to figure out the senko.  I would of given up but my buddy caught fish on them every time.  When I slowed down and started dragging it I started catching A LOT of fish.

[tyrius.]

LBH, you may find that funny but I don't. Not every one is an expert bass fisherman like you. I am sure there is some bait you have yet to master. I know I can admit that I have still have much to learn about different baits and techniques.

I never caught a fish on a senko-type bait until this weekend.  I haven't used them all that much since I just got back into fishing last year, but this weekend taught me that all you need to do to catch fish with a senko is to find a likely spot and put your senko there and then let the fish find it.

That's about as fool proof as you can get.  When I try to "work" the senko I get nothing.  When I just let it sit there doing nothing I catch 'em.  To me, that I LBH's point.  They are killer "do nothing" baits.

[Redtail]

I will only throw a senko under two circumstances, if I'm alone or if I'm with someone!

[roadwarrior]

I will only throw a senko under two circumstances, if I'm alone or if I'm with someone!

Reminds me of lyics from an old favorite song:

"I never drink alone unless I'm by myself."

8-)

[moby bass]

George Thorogood?

[roadwarrior]

George Thorogood?

http://www.delawaredestroyers.com/music.html

8-)

[bass wrangler569]

There are two times I find myself reaching for a senko over other plastics. The first is when the water is clear and calm with visible structure to cast to. The second time I will throw a senko is as a follow up bait. If I have a bass swirl at a topwater, or even if I just see a bass jump, I will make a cast to that fish with the senko and more often then not the fish will strike it.

[Jeff_NHBA]

Senkos are great for skipping under docks!

Use Parasite clips if you have problems with your senkos ripping.

[Bass n Bows]

I find it amazing that you guys all catch with them.  I wish I could catch like you guys describe with them.  Just to get some experience behind the wheel so to speak.  My experience with senkos has been totally negative in respect to catching fish.  My roboworm seemed to work where there were clearly fish yesterday and my senkos just got ignored.  If I walk a bank here in Cali. I won't go 100 yards without seeing someone's discarded senkos - everyone uses them everyday here.  I sort of hate them for that reason.  I also think fish here might grow shy to them, if not already.  I am experimenting with drop shotting the 3" model today.  For worms I just love the action of the roboworms - they look incredible in the water.  Rigged in a variety of ways they can do almost amazing actions.  

As a new guy to bass I still struggle with the idea that a 2lb fish, which seem to be the average daily bass catch size, will actually pick up a 6" or 7" senko - seems just to big.  I can't help feeling they want to gobble down a nice small easy pickings worm or grub.  Also, right now I would rather catch 12 small fish for experience than go 2 months to catch one 5lber.  

I do need more experience though.

I was very skeptical about fishing senkos, but I just started killing them with senkos this week.  When it comes to the size of the fish, I was catching little 9in. dinks on a 6in. senko, and they swallowed it no problem. ;D