manny Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 about 5 feet of water, lots of emergeant grass, relatively close to shore, muddy bottom. i'd probably fish a fluke along the edge of the grass, or throw a plastic worm into the grass texas rigged with a small weight and hop it along the ground out of the grass what would you use? Quote
SenkoSnack808 Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Depending on the lake but I'd throw frog in the low light hours, and then use a senko weightlees, and a lightly rigged t-worm. I might try a jig too. Corey Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 11, 2007 Super User Posted January 11, 2007 Flip/Pitch plastics or jigs Quote
bubbler Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I would hop the jig out of the grass. and try a buzz bait. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 11, 2007 Super User Posted January 11, 2007 It's rare that two anglers can agree on any two methods, but we come remarkably close. I'd go with your zoom super fluke (white ice) T-rigged inverted on a 4/0 hook Gamakatsu Z-bend "Unweighted" if your working over submergents <> "1/4 oz bullet sinker" if you want to punch back into the bulrushes or reeds. I also like your idea of a plastic worm in the submerged weeds (I'm a patsy for a plastic worm). The 6 to 8" worm of your choice: Ribbontail, Trick, Ringworm, Kut-tail, Paddletail, Tassel-tail, ~ ~ ~ No more than a 1/8 oz bullet sinker, but here's where we part company. I wouldn't hop the worm (I save that for plastic crays), but would use a "crank-and-glide" retrieve. If you're using a ribbontail worm, the 1/8 oz sinker is enough to keep it alive on a freefall. BTW: If you're covering good weed beds, there's sand under that mud Roger Quote
basspro48 Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 iI'd throw a frog, like a Stanley ribbit rigged on a 4/0 Gamakatsu superline hook, and crawl it over the weeds and buzz it over open water. Then I would try flipping a heavy jig or texas rigged craw into the weeds. Also try tossing a fluke or a spinnerbait on the outside edges of the weeds. Quote
justfishin Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I would probably start with a buzzbait and then maybe a 1/4 or 3/8oz spinnerbait. If I could not make anything happen with either of these baits I would go to a floating trick worm or senko. After that I would flip a light 1/4 or 3/8 jig in the pockets. Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 11, 2007 Super User Posted January 11, 2007 FYI Emergeant grass: rooted in shallow water and having most of its vegetative growth above water Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted January 11, 2007 Super User Posted January 11, 2007 I would start off with a tube or a t-rigged plastic worm. Quote
Chris Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I would fish the edge with a buzzbait or a walking bait on top. I would fish the edge with a bang-o-lure, trap, balsa crank, spinnerbait. I would fish ontop of the grass with a grass frog. I would flip the grass with a tube, sweetbeaver, or fry. Quote
BASS fisherman Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I'd swim a Rapala crankbait with sure set hooks through it. ;D ;D ;D Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 11, 2007 Super User Posted January 11, 2007 Fat Ika, weightless & weedless 6" Senko, weightless & weedless Quote
manny Posted January 11, 2007 Author Posted January 11, 2007 It's rare that two anglers can agree on any two methods, but we come remarkably close. I'd go with your zoom super fluke (white ice) T-rigged inverted on a 4/0 hook Gamakatsu Z-bend "Unweighted" if your working over submergents <> "1/4 oz bullet sinker" if you want to punch back into the bulrushes or reeds. I also like your idea of a plastic worm in the submerged weeds (I'm a patsy for a plastic worm). The 6 to 8" worm of your choice: Ribbontail, Trick, Ringworm, Kut-tail, Paddletail, Tassel-tail, ~ ~ ~ No more than a 1/8 oz bullet sinker, but here's where we part company. I wouldn't hop the worm (I save that for plastic crays), but would use a "crank-and-glide" retrieve. If you're using a ribbontail worm, the 1/8 oz sinker is enough to keep it alive on a freefall. BTW: If you're covering good weed beds, there's sand under that mud Roger how do you work a crank and glide? the only thing i do with a worm is lift my rod tip about a foot and a half pretty briskly, then slowly lower it while reeling in, then pause and repeat. i'm a noob with worms Quote
ga_hawghauler Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 If there was any way i could i would burn a rattle trap around the weeds and if not i would go with soft plastic texas rigged or unweighted fluke. Quote
JigNBig Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 try fishing a large xrap. cast it out and work it up to the weed bed the let it sit for about 5 secs them reel back in Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 12, 2007 Super User Posted January 12, 2007 how do you work a crank and glide? the only thing i do with a worm is lift my rod tip about a foot and a half pretty briskly, The Crank-and-Glide retrieve is my own concoction. When using a Lift-and-Drop retrieve, it's mandatory that the rod is lowered at the exact speed that the lure is falling (neutral buoyancy). If the rod is lowered slower than the worm is falling, it creates backpressure that destroys the natural freefall. If the rod is lowered faster than the worm is falling, the angler will lose contact with the lure, making it difficult to detect a pickup. With the Crank-and-Glide retrieve, only the reel handle moves, while the rod is held at the 2 o'clock position throughout the entire retreive without moving. The crank-and-glide has two big advantages over the pump & drop: 1. The worm glides slowly on a tight line to the bottom, so the angler remains in constant contact with the lure. 2. Gliding on a tight line eliminates also eliminates the need to match the descent-rate of a falling lure. After the cast, wait for bottom contact (signaled by a sudden sag in the line). Hold the rod at the 2 o'clock position, and crank the reel 2 or 3 turns then STOP. Without moving the rod, wait as the lure glides slowly back to the bottom on a tight line. During the glide, only the reel handle moves while mending the slack line that's created. Repeat the Crank-and-Glide delivery until the worm is out of the strike zone then rip it back to the boat for the next cast. Roger Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I would use a frog first off. other options would a tube, creature, senko, jig. Also find the weedline edge. Typically this is one of the best spots to fish. Quote
Nick B Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I would use a mojo rig, mojo weights cut through the grass better. Quote
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