Ohio State Buckeyes or Michigan Wolverines

[Catt]

PAC 10 Standings Over All

USC 9-1

California 8-3

Oregon State 7-4

Oregon 7-4

UCLA 6-5

Arizona 6-5

Washington State 6-6

Arizona State 6-5

Washington 5-7

Stanford 1-10

You don't even want to look at conference play it gets even uglier with seven out of ten at or below 500. USC plays three non-conference games two of which were ranked at the start of the year, their conference games are their weakness. Come on Stanford is not a 1-A team I know high schools that can beat them and their only win was over Washington.

[Matt Fly]

USC played better teams than Michigan and Wisconsin, and no one should be puninshed for conference strength.    

When your conference is down, thats were the non conference strength show up and Michigan and Wisc. don't get any points for playing cream puffs period.

Only two teams under 500 overall and the Pac 10 plays a few good teams out of conference.  

Tenn, Ark, Auburn, Boise St, Lsu, OU twice, and ND 3 times.      Big ten can't even come close to showing that kinda of non conf. scheduling.    

The big non conf games for the Big Ten, Rutgers who won, Penn State lost to ND, Cal beats MInn, Osu beats TEXAS, Pittsburg gets beat by Purdue, ND beats MSU, ND beats Purdue, and ND gets beat by Michigan.  Notice the contenders didn't play the tough schedule, it the rest of the Big Ten who played better teams.

Don't care how weak the Pac 10 is, USC has done its part so far.

How many BCS teams did Michigan beat, 2, ND and Wisc and Wisc. doesn't deserve the ranking, they didn't play anyone other than Michigan.

How many BCS teams  will USC have played, Ark, Cal, ND.

Better find a different angle, because you can't win strength of schedule or show that the Big Ten within is all that either.

And the same goes for the Big Ten, 6 out of 11 teams have loosing records, the sixth best team in conf. is 3-5 and there are 5 more teams that are 3-5 or worse.

Not much of a comparison, and Big Ten had the softiest non conf. schedule out of the two conferences and theres no comparison at all.

Its USC's to lose.

Hookem

Matt

Matt.

[Catt]

Ok let's look at PAC 10's non-conference schedule

Fresno State: (three times) conference 3-3 overall 3-7

Portland State 1-AA

Rice: conference 5-2 overall 6-5

Stephen F. Austin 1-AA

Baylor: conference 3-5 overall 4-8

Idaho: conference 3-4 overall 4-7

Northern Arizona 1-AA

San Jose State (twice) conference 3-3 overall 3-7

Portland State 1-AA

Teams above 500: 1

1-AA teams: 4

If USC plays OSU they lose

[Matt Fly]

If I made the whole list from Pac 10 and Big 10, Big  10's list would be very bare of any good teams, a handful.

Go ahead and post the Big tens cream puffs to be fair.

Its simple, you brought up the records of Pac 10, but failed to show just how much of a difference there is in schedule strenght, and there is no comparison to who the pac 10 played when compared to the Big Ten.

Not even close.

Matt

[Catt]

This could go one for ever!

As I've stated earlier it's about money, all power house teams schedule non-conference games with one thought in mind wins. Division 1-A teams schedule Division 1-AA teams so the little schools have a chance to make money. I believe that TV networks should schedule more Division 1-AA games, heck I'm a football fan so if it's a good game I don't care whose playing I would watch.

I also believe there is too much emphasis put on going undefeated, a lot of 1 & 2 lose teams could beat OSU. Look at the NFL only one team ever went undefeated and they have had numerous Super Bowl Champions who had 4 or 5 losses. We need a college playoff system period, then and only then can a true champion be determined.

[Matt Fly]

Michigan barely beat Ball state at home, if you schedule cream puffs, you better put up 50 points, and thats something Mich. didn't do against any of those cream puffs.     Northwestern gave them a test, Minn. gave them a test.     They just didn't dominate those weaker teams like they should have.

At least Florida scored 62 on a div II team, well, isn't that the way Michigan should have beat the lesser teams?    One game with a margin of victory of 31 points against either INdiana or Illinois.    All the others were less than 30, that really show something.  

If USC wins out, they will be the #2 team, and they do have a shot a winning, Pete Carroll is no slouch when it comes to NC games.

USC was given no chance losing 85% of its offense, Linehart, Bush, White, and USC is reloaded and ready to play.  NOt even one year later, Pete has them in position to play for a fourth title.

Matt.

[Catt]

Matt who you trying to convince you or me?

Cause if you are trying to convince me it aint going to happen, it's all about money!

As for four titles who you kidding

BCS champions

2005 Texas, 2004 USC, 2003 LSU, 2002 OSU, 2001 Miami,  2000 Oklahoma, 1999 FSU, 1998 Tennessee