jrhennecke Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 LBH and some others made some pretty good points on a previous thread: http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1206942212/0 I hope they don't mind but I found the thread very interesting and wanted to see if we could expand on it a little. The jist of the conversation as I took it was that things like hook brands and lure colors and brands are more important to us than they are to the fish. 1) How important is the Brand Name to you? 2) Besides the obvious applications how important is color to you? Quote
Oscar O. Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 1) not much really, if it looks good and is reasonably priced, then it gets purchased. Eventually i start to trust a brand after using it for a while though. A confidence thing for sure. 2)to me color is important, i want the fish to think "i've eaten that before! It was yummy too!" lol. Especially in clear water and if i am fishing slower. Quote
Vyron Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 for soft plastics i dont care for the brand hard plastics , its totally different story , i m brand psycho color is not so important for me , presentation is the most important Quote
dumb_dog11 Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 for soft plastics i dont care for the brandhard plastics , its totally different story , i m brand psycho color is not so important for me , presentation is the most important add another Quote
basspro48 Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 Brand choice is more of a confidence thing for me, for example, I have a lot of confidence in ZOOM plastics which is why my boat is loaded down with 'em. However I have little confidence in YUM plastics, therefore I edon't own many plastics by YUM. And color choice is all about conditions and location. I try to keep it pretty basic but sometimes those crazy "out there" colors will work better than anything else. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 2, 2008 Super User Posted April 2, 2008 Brand loyalty is developed over time. Dependability, consistancy and quality are more than "subjective" attributes. To illustrate using the hook example, any hook will work "most of the time". However, when you need the sharpest, strongest hook available, nothing else will do. The question is: When do you need the best? For me, it's when I'm fishing! If I knew when my PB or the next World Record was going to show up, things might be different... Well, probably not for me... : 8-) Quote
ba7ss3in Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I like all brands for different reasons. For me, some brands have better action on certain styles of baits, so that's what I look for. For me, I like my hooks red and on sell, as lanog as, they are the top brands. Quote
fishizzle Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I start off with name brands and when they prove effective, I try to find a cheaper replacement The problem is some colors aren't avail. in other brands And yes color is imp. to me Quote
fishizzle Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 One more thing, I don't hear alot of talk here on the non name brands. Who else uses BPS hooks or cranks? Quote
patbfishing123 Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I agree with roadwarrior, brand loyalty is developed over time. It's those little differences in the certain brand that make people come back to them. Brand name lures tend to run true right out of the box and stay that way, they keep the same motion aswell. The hooks tend to be sharper and stronger and the paint is thicker. The rattles if any are a higher quality sound and there tend to be more in brand names. I believe that brand names are important to know what you are buying, quality is much more important to me than price. Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I like a mixture of brand names and house brands I love the whole Rapala Line with one exception Cabelas Glass Shad: especially the jointed is better for me than the rapala product ***; ***,Brush Babies,Ripple Worms and Craws: You can't beat em Arbogast: Jitterbugs, can't be duplicated Storms,Rapala Cranks and a few BPS Hooks: BPS and Owner Line:Cabelas Pro Line Rods (In this order) Fenwick,BPS and Cabelas Reeels: Pfluegers I have an ABU experiment going ALPSTER SPECIAL: My favorite because it was hand made by my friend Alpster, and I could have never afforded such a great rod. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted April 2, 2008 Super User Posted April 2, 2008 When it comes to hooks i'm pretty picky...i don't get much time on the water as i like,so i depend on a good hook.Owner hooks is my first choice. Everything else I'll buy and try.If i like and they produce i'll buy a few more to stock. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 On the subject of hooks..... I read an article recently on another fishing site (I forget the site, can't provide a link) Anyway, the guy was a fanatic about sharpening his hooks regularly. He claimed most hooks out of the package could be sharper than they were. A good way to test a hook's sharpness is to put the point on your thumbnail at about a 45 degree angle. Try to drag the hook across your nail. If it digs into your nail, it's sharp enough. If it skids across, it needs to be touched up. I checked out my stuff and was suprised at how much of it needed sharpening. I practiced on old and rusty hookls until I got the hang of it. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 On the subject of hooks..... I read an article recently on another fishing site (I forget the site, can't provide a link) Anyway, the guy was a fanatic about sharpening his hooks regularly. He claimed most hooks out of the package could be sharper than they were. A good way to test a hook's sharpness is to put the point on your thumbnail at about a 45 degree angle. Try to drag the hook across your nail. If it digs into your nail, it's sharp enough. If it skids across, it needs to be touched up. I checked out my stuff and was suprised at how much of it needed sharpening. I practiced on old and rusty hookls until I got the hang of it. I never sharpen hooks. Single hooks made by Owner, Gamakatsu and XPoint cannot be sharpened and don't need to be! Otherwise, I replace treble hooks with Gammies or VMC. 8-) Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 On the subject of hooks..... I read an article recently on another fishing site (I forget the site, can't provide a link) Anyway, the guy was a fanatic about sharpening his hooks regularly. He claimed most hooks out of the package could be sharper than they were. A good way to test a hook's sharpness is to put the point on your thumbnail at about a 45 degree angle. Try to drag the hook across your nail. If it digs into your nail, it's sharp enough. If it skids across, it needs to be touched up. I checked out my stuff and was suprised at how much of it needed sharpening. I practiced on old and rusty hookls until I got the hang of it. I never sharpen hooks. Single hooks made by Owner, Gamakatsu and XPoint cannot be sharpened and don't need to be! Otherwise, I replace treble hooks with Gammies or VMC. 8-) I think of also read in an article about not sharpening hooks like Owner's cutting point. You will ruin the "cutting point" which is what you paid that premium price for in the first place. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 Both the Cutting Point and XPoint hooks have a "broadhead" point which I believe are chemically sharpened. Filing will destroy the physical integrity of the point. 8-) Quote
Super User Tin Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 I don't care, whatever it takes to get the job done. Being very brand loyal and only fishing certain baits can hurt you imo. Quote
Guest muddy Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Both the Cutting Point and XPoint hooks have a "broadhead" pointwhich I believe are chemically sharpened. Filing will destroy the physical integrity of the point. 8-) SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT? Quote
Super User Tin Posted April 3, 2008 Super User Posted April 3, 2008 On the subject of hooks..... I read an article recently on another fishing site (I forget the site, can't provide a link) Anyway, the guy was a fanatic about sharpening his hooks regularly. He claimed most hooks out of the package could be sharper than they were. A good way to test a hook's sharpness is to put the point on your thumbnail at about a 45 degree angle. Try to drag the hook across your nail. If it digs into your nail, it's sharp enough. If it skids across, it needs to be touched up. I checked out my stuff and was suprised at how much of it needed sharpening. I practiced on old and rusty hookls until I got the hang of it. Just set the hook harder. 8-) Quote
TruflShufl Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 I haven't been fishing long enough to develop "firm" preferences in particular brand names. If it's a soft plastic from *** I'll throw it, other than that gimme whatcha got and I'll let you know what I think. 8-) Quote
low_pro Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 I'm not too picky with hard baits... Plastics must be Charlie's... confidence thing I guess... Hooks must be Gamakatsu (or Owner, but I rarely spend the extra$$) I think I complicate the color thing too much sometimes... Quote
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