Super User Dan: Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 I don't got no waders. :'( Quote
bigbasshunter Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 What is the water temperature going to be in early March? I'm a little worried about fishing in a 'yak if the water is still cold. Warm enough for the fish to bite!! Some hand warmers and a wind breaker and you'll be straight. Quote
mudkart Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 What is the water temperature going to be in early March? I'm a little worried about fishing in a 'yak if the water is still cold. Warm enough for the fish to bite!! Some hand warmers and a wind breaker and you'll be straight. 440 F Sunday at L Royal and if anything its gotten colder since. That's a downward trend in water temp over the past couple weeks. Good luck. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 24, 2009 Super User Posted February 24, 2009 What is the water temperature going to be in early March? I'm a little worried about fishing in a 'yak if the water is still cold. Warm enough for the fish to bite!! Some hand warmers and a wind breaker and you'll be straight. You must have never fished from a pedal propelled kayak. I don't care about it being cold for the fish, I'm worried about going in a small craft onto big water with the potential for windy conditions and very cold water... that's all... Somebody please put my mind at ease. Quote
bigbasshunter Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I've been fishin out the yak for years and never once had an issue with wind causing stability issues. The biggest issue ive had is lots of energy spent paddling(by hand). I have a sit in with ruder and im less than 150lbs so i guess if your large and exposed to the elements you could have stability issues and the cold could be uncomfortable. If we put in at bullrun and head up stream then there should be very little wind, its only about 60 yards wide for a couple miles and if you stay close to shore youll have less to swim if you get ejected. Im going to go by there and drop a thermometer to check temps. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 25, 2009 Super User Posted February 25, 2009 Pedal-drive kayaks have openings in the bottom that allow water in. Last time I was in Andrew's yak my jeans got soaked completely through. That's not a problem in warm water or if I get some waders, though. And if we decide to go to bigger waters then wind could cause waves. Tell me if I'm wrong, but can't those affect stability? I don't mean to be a negative nancy or anything, I'm just not going to risk any instability if the water is still chilly. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 25, 2009 Super User Posted February 25, 2009 So we have a suggestion of Bull Run. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Maybe a location that is good for some of our shore-bound anglers? (If there are any planning on coming) Quote
A.Do? Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I think my yak is pretty stable. I stood on it on the potomac and I've been in some pretty windy conditions in the yak as well. Allyn and I fished beaverdam with white caps on the water. Unless you're playing around, I don't see how you could fall off a kayak. Just an FYI, I have a SOT kayak and water occasionally comes up through the scupper holes and the drive hole. I have an extra pair of waders if you need them. They're size like 13 though. Quote
SimonSays Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 yep, our SOT's are pretty stable, I don't think i've ever come close to being flipped while in Andrew's yak, his is 13ft I think and wide so stability is good. I've been in the bay with my 10fter with a decent amount of waves and stability still really wasn't an issue. Getting wet does suck though so waders are a must. Also a bunch of guys over at the Kayak Fishing stuff forum did a few tests in a pool and they found that with waders, a jacket, and a PFD, totally submerged in water, only a little water gets into the waders, (I always thought it was a rushing torrent ). Turns out the PFD compresses the jacket onto the waders and onto you keeping water out and the waders above the waterline. Quote
Paul Naj Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I hear what you're saying Andrew, your Hobie and my Native are very stabile platforms but they are just not boats. I know a lot of yakkers who fish saltwater and guys do go in from time to time. The problem is that a kayak is not as easy to climb back into as a boat. Therefore you need to dress for the water temp as much as the air temp. Unlike my saltwater buddies we are rarely more than a couple hundred yards from shore so we can get to dry land pretty quickly if needed. However, you should still take great precaution since hypothermia can set in pretty quickly in 44 degree water. Also a quick word about waders. You need to be sure that you wear a snug wading belt on the waders and another over the top you're wearing over them to ensure water doesn't get in if you do take a swim. Waders that are loose and fill with water are a very bad thing. I far from an alarmist but safety first guys. Dan, try and find some way to keep yourself dry in the yak and then wear enough to keep yourself warm in the event of a dunking. Always carry a set of dry clothes in a sealed bag to change and you should be good to go. BTW, I'm tentative for the 7th. Quote
mudkart Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I think my yak is pretty stable. I stood on it on the potomac and I've been in some pretty windy conditions in the yak as well. Allyn and I fished beaverdam with white caps on the water. Unless you're playing around, I don't see how you could fall off a kayak. Just an FYI, I have a SOT kayak and water occasionally comes up through the scupper holes and the drive hole. I have an extra pair of waders if you need them. They're size like 13 though. I can attest that Andrew's kayak is stable, even in "windy" conditions.  It kept both of us afloat (almost) on Mercer last November, and I'll wager I weigh more than Dan  .  Never felt like we were going to tip, but your backside will get wet, so use the waders.  I just got a decent pair of neoprene ones, only $60 at Dicks.  You'll like those alot more than the rubber ones Andrew has (I could barely move in them, but then again, Dan may have more room in them than I did ;D).  I'd go w/ you guys but my wife and I have a cabin reserved at Algonkian that weekend  .  I'll try to get some fishing in, too. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 25, 2009 Super User Posted February 25, 2009 Andrew, what is a size 13 like? Is that by the shoe size? I wear 11-11.5 shoes. I hope they will fit my big *** and legs... ;D Quote
A.Do? Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I hear what you're saying Andrew, your Hobie and my Native are very stabile platforms but they are just not boats. I know a lot of yakkers who fish saltwater and guys do go in from time to time. The problem is that a kayak is not as easy to climb back into as a boat. Therefore you need to dress for the water temp as much as the air temp. Unlike my saltwater buddies we are rarely more than a couple hundred yards from shore so we can get to dry land pretty quickly if needed. However, you should still take great precaution since hypothermia can set in pretty quickly in 44 degree water. Also a quick word about waders. You need to be sure that you wear a snug wading belt on the waders and another over the top you're wearing over them to ensure water doesn't get in if you do take a swim. Waders that are loose and fill with water are a very bad thing. I far from an alarmist but safety first guys. Dan, try and find some way to keep yourself dry in the yak and then wear enough to keep yourself warm in the event of a dunking. Always carry a set of dry clothes in a sealed bag to change and you should be good to go. BTW, I'm tentative for the 7th. Excellent advice from Paul! The first thing I did when I got my yak was youtube how to get back on a kayak when you've fallen out. I've yet to try it but plan to this year. Â Dan, yes they're size 13 shoe. I thought you had a pair of waders last year? That was a scary day Mike! I know now that the larger person should be in the front for my kayak. Quote
robchoi Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 ohhh dammnnnn!!!! You all are getting me excited! Soooon..... So soon. I think I gotta poop. Quote
SimonSays Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 I think I gotta poop. that's my motto! Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 25, 2009 Super User Posted February 25, 2009 No, I've never had any waders. When I went out in your kayak I was just wearing jeans. I only wade in the summer so I wade in swim trunks. If you have an extra pair that you are willing to let me use, I will just use those. If they don't fit me then I'll just stick to the bank with any other guys that show up without boats. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 25, 2009 Super User Posted February 25, 2009 btw, Sorry Eddie, I have already sold the rod. Now its time to get me a Cumara or Fuego! Quote
eddieinva Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 dang man, I was gone for 1 day and this thread blew up~! Â Hopefully we'll have a freak day like today in the 60's.. Â Hey Paul, how do you like that native? Â I love the heritage, but i'm seriously considering a trade for the native.. I figure I can load tons more crap.. and that stability issue would be real nice.. I'm a big guy so me and water are not nice. Â i sink. Â ;D Quote
Paul Naj Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Eddie, I love the Ultimate 12 but it's my first kayak so I don't have another point of comparison except fishing twice on an Ocean SOT kayak. I did a lot of reading on 2 different kayak fishing boards and saw what complaints guys had about the various boats and thought that the Ultimate 12 would answer most of those concerns. So far it's worked for me. Let me know if you're ever up around Sterling, you're welcome to come take a look at mine rigged up. It might help in your decision. P Quote
SimonSays Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 anyone have any other suggestions on place? We have a vote for Bull Run Marina, hows the bank for fishing around there? we might have some people on foot Quote
bigbasshunter Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 well if we park across from kinchloe theres a good amount. but we could also hit up lake braddock if anybody lives over there. I know if we put a bunch of yaks in theyll send the president of the HOA down to look for passes. but it has much better access for peeps on foot. I got a 7lb4oz out of there last spring. Quote
A.Do? Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Trevor is no longer with BR Â :'( but yeah. I don't think going to Braddock will be a good idea as it's a private lake for residence and their guest only. How about the other larger local lakes? Royal? Burke? Mercer? Huntsman? Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 28, 2009 Super User Posted February 28, 2009 I vote for any of the lakes that Andrew listed. I don't really want to fish Bull Run, but that's just me. Quote
bigbasshunter Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I still say the river, even if its at fountainhead and we have to pay to launch. Burke is so clear it takes to long to warm, Royal has the construction which sucks and horrible bottom structure but its on the smaller side and has some very decent fish locked in. Mercer is a long walk just to launch. Huntsman is alright but has no side cover so it could get very windy cause some issues with some and there forward momentum. I vote for the river Quote
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