Daiwa Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Quote
Bob Kavanaugh Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 I think it has something to do with how the search button is invisible on some forums. Quote
Turtle. Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 I think it has something to do with how the search button is invisible on some forums. LMAO Quote
HesterIsGod Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 I think it has something to do with how the search button is invisible on some forums. Yeah, I am getting sick of this topic. Quote
Daiwa Posted March 19, 2008 Author Posted March 19, 2008 Hello? Could someone atleast point me in the direction? Im confuzed. Quote
Guest muddy Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Put a set of red trebles on a bait, go outside and cast the bait into some water, now close your eyes, can you see the red hooks THEN They ARE INVISIBLE GEEZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!! Feel at one with the univerese now Quote
HesterIsGod Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Hello? Could someone atleast point me in the direction? Im confuzed. DO A SEARCH USING THE KEYWORDS RED HOOKS AND LINE. You will get a lot of results. Quote
JT Bagwell Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Cajun Red Line is translucent so the light is able to pass through it. Daiichi Bleeding Bait hooks are not translucent so the light refracts and causes it to be visible. What these guys were referring to in reference to the search button was the fact that this has been discussed countless times. If you would like to read all of the previous posts you can look them up by using the search button on the forums. Hope that helps a little. JT Bagwell Quote
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Super User Grey Wolf Posted March 19, 2008 Super User Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Red line isn't invisible. Quote
Ern Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Cajun Red Line is translucent so the light is able to pass through it. Daiichi Bleeding Bait hooks are not translucent so the light refracts and causes it to be visible. JT Bagwell Spoken like someone without any knowledge of physics. Colors that you see are the colors that are refracted back. All other colors of the spectrum are absorbed. Hence red is RED. Now he invisible part. Water is a different medium than air therefore light behaves different. The stuff in the water is absorbing wavelenghts too. Visible Light Deminishes. The longer wavelelengths in the red spectrum are absorbed more rapidly. Hence RED Disappears. RED HOOKS Catch fisherman. ;D Fish see Red hooks and Red line About the same. Red does a disappearing act in the water. Has nothing to do with "They Bite Red Better" but you will beleive the Marketing. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted March 19, 2008 Super User Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Cajun Red Line is translucent so the light is able to pass through it. Daiichi Bleeding Bait hooks are not translucent so the light refracts and causes it to be visible. JT Bagwell Spoken like someone without any knowledge of physics. Colors that you see are the colors that are refracted back. All other colors of the spectrum are absorbed. Hence red is RED. Now he invisible part. Water is a different medium than air therefore light behaves different. The stuff in the water is absorbing wavelenghts too. Visible Light Deminishes. The longer wavelelengths in the red spectrum are absorbed more rapidly. Hence RED Disappears. RED HOOKS Catch fisherman. ;D Fish see Red hooks and Red line About the same. Red does a disappearing act in the water. Has nothing to do with "They Bite Red Better" but you will beleive the Marketing. Wow, spoken like someone..... Forget it, not even worth it.... *edit* Chatterbait, if you feel that something gives you an added edge, then it is benefitting you in some way, shape or form. Confidence is a big part of this game. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted March 19, 2008 Super User Posted March 19, 2008 I'm just glad that Chatter Bait, at age 14, is interested in learning as much as possible about bass fishing from this forum. Good question, Chatter Bait. Quote
Daiwa Posted March 19, 2008 Author Posted March 19, 2008 Ok, Thanks guys. I was watching the video of youtube called night fishing, by the bass professor, or doug hannon, and It said its better to fish at night because its harder for the fish to see the line. The little idea you guys said that he said about hooks is different. He said that at night our color vision goes down at night. He said the red is the first thing to drop out. Im not thinking thats true because sometimes on eclipses the moon gets red and we can see it. Am I on the right track with this? He also said to use black. Here is the video. Quote
Ern Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 [Chatterbait, if you feel that something gives you an added edge, then it is benefitting you in some way, shape or form.Confidence is a big part of this game. I agree. Confidence is a HUGE part of what you do. You have to have faith in something to stick with it. Red line have been around since I was a teen. Anyone remember the old TC Two Color Line. Sections of red and clear mono. Most of the Camo lines have a red in them. I looked at the Crappie Line that BPS sells last night and could make out a red in it. What depth, would be the better question in regards to RED. The deeper you fish, Darker the water, the less light, and the less visible RED. Red shallow is to mimic the red flash of the flaring baitfish gills. Red in low light is disappearing. Those Hannon Videos on YouTube are awsome. If you could find them Hannon did a number of articles in the InFisherman Magazine in the late '80's and early '90's one minnow fishing, his fishing set-up, and plastics. They are EXCELLENT reads and I wish I still had them. Speaking of old.....Remember the Burke Fishing SnakeBait that Hannon designed in the 1980's. I had a few of those. :-X Quote
Avalonjohn44 Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Under water translucent red line (Cajun Red) looks exactly like any normal 'clear' line at 12 feet. It does not disappear, but does grow dimmer to our eyes. It is harder to see, but not 'invisible. I used to be on the side that it completely disappears at 10-12 feet and beyond, until I saw it on a fishing show (sorry don't remember which one, but it was on the VS channel, and it was saltwater fishing) where they used a camera at 20 feet or so. The red translucent line they were showing was totally visible. It looked no different than the clear line. BOTH the red and the clear were LESS visible than the green line and the neon chartreuse line they were also comparing, but certainly not invisible. The 'disappearing line' is a myth based on junk science. The line, a solid object will always reflect some light, so the only way it will ever be truly invisible is in completely dark conditions. Another thing to remember is that a bass's eyes are about as sharp as a cat's, if not better. So while to our eyes something may seem dimmer, to a Bass's, maybe not so... I guess the long and short of it is that it is nothing more than a marketing scheme, if you like the red line, cool, buy it. I bought into the myth of it and have about 6 spools of Cajun red that I use. It performs just as good as low vis green Stren, or whatever clear Trilene I have. Quote
TruflShufl Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Ya stop player hatein' I'm not for or against red hooks and red line. If they're there I'll use em, if not then I don't fret. Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted March 19, 2008 Super User Posted March 19, 2008 Not for or against either. Never purchased either. I am comfortable with the tackle I have been catching fish on for years, never bought into the hype, Thankfully. Quote
tyrius. Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 BOTH the red and the clear were LESS visible than the green line and the neon chartreuse line they were also comparing, but certainly not invisible. This is the point of the red line. Line watchers can use it to fish deep and it is the same as clear line to the fish. However, to the angler watching the line the red will stand out and be able to be seen better. I don't use it. I'm still young and have good eyes and can typically see clear line pretty well. Quote
Avalonjohn44 Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 This is the point of the red line. Line watchers can use it to fish deep and it is the same as clear line to the fish. However, to the angler watching the line the red will stand out and be able to be seen better. I totally agree with that, but that is not how it is being marketed. Cajun Red and similar lines like it keep promising that they are revolutionary and invisible and will catch you a million more fish... Just another ploy of the Bait Monkey... Quote
tyrius. Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 I totally agree with that, but that is not how it is being marketed. Cajun Red and similar lines like it keep promising that they are revolutionary and invisible and will catch you a million more fish... Just another ploy of the Bait Monkey... And fish hold on to powerbait like 1000 times longer than unscented plastic and the banjo minnow catches so many fish that it is going to be banned from tourneys and etc. etc. etc. It's marketing. Marketers make TONS of claims and most of them have little basis in reality. Red line becomes the same as clear line at a much shallower depth. That is why it is better to use when one wants to fish by watching the line. Red hooks may or may not make a difference for lures that run shallower than 10 feet or whatever the depth is that red fades away. Color is something that will be an endless debate. Very successful anglers on this board say that color is the least important variable. Quote
HesterIsGod Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 If red fishing line is invisible in the water then why isnt red hooks? Cajun Red Line is translucent so the light is able to pass through it. Daiichi Bleeding Bait hooks are not translucent so the light refracts and causes it to be visible. JT Bagwell Spoken like someone without any knowledge of physics... Now he invisible part. ;D spoken like someone without any knowledge of English. ps. red doesn't disappear right away, usually around 20 feet, putting red into play for most techniques. Quote
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