SV1000 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 ...I thought I would try them for 1.69 so I grabbed a pack at lunch. I realized that they won't work for spinnerbaits or buzzbaits and not that great with plastics when I got home and tied them on to 2 of 3 rods. The lake was very muddy and high tonight but I hooked a few on Horny Toads and then BAM, she sucked it in, I waited for just a second and then let her have it. No fish, no Speed Clip and no Toad. The knot was still on the line so I think the line broke. But that is a different post in a different forum. Pinching that little clip and attaching it to the split ring while it flops around in the wind when I'm not wearing my bifocals is a pain. I can see my Uni-Knot fine so I am putting the clips in the trash can. Just one guys opinion that is worth as much as you paid for it...SV
bassin95 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 i know what you are saying about the speed clips BUT when you throw crankbaits of any size or model they are great. i never use the clips for anything other than crankbaits. i have never had one fail and have caught a few hundred fish on crankbaits while using the norman speed clips.
Super User MALTESE FALCON Posted March 12, 2008 Super User Posted March 12, 2008 I've used the Duolock Snaps for five years, and I've never had one fail. I use a snap on all my crankbaits and jerkbaits. It sounds like you had line failure not snap failure. Falcon
SV1000 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Posted March 12, 2008 Most definitely, the snap didn't fail and I agree it was the line or my knot. I just didn't think about attaching them to a spinnerbait or plastics so they are less of an advantage than I anticipated. I was looking for No-Knot Fast Snaps but I didn't find them. I may try those for my crankbaits.
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 12, 2008 Super User Posted March 12, 2008 I've used the Duolock Snaps for five years, and I've never had one fail. I use a snap on all my crankbaits and jerkbaits. It sounds like you had line failure not snap failure.Falcon Just started using them for some hard baits, but our BassResource.com member, Bud from Kentucky, has been using them for years. He doesn't have a problem with Duolock Snaps and you shouldn't either! 8-)
PlasticMan Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah, I had the same problem with them speed clips, and that same night I took them out of my bag and threw them away. Even though I do not use them I would recommend a Duolock. I have heard that if they do break the snap will just collapse on itself, there by making it impossible for the snap to come off your line.
tyrius. Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah, I had the same problem with them speed clips, and that same night I took them out of my bag and threw them away. What problem did he have with the speed clips? According to his story his line broke and NOT the speed clip.
Super User Catt Posted March 12, 2008 Super User Posted March 12, 2008 ...I thought I would try them for 1.69 so I grabbed a pack at lunch. I realized that they won't work for spinnerbaits or buzzbaits and not that great with plastics when I got home and tied them on to 2 of 3 rods.The lake was very muddy and high tonight but I hooked a few on Horny Toads and then BAM, she sucked it in, I waited for just a second and then let her have it. No fish, no Speed Clip and no Toad. The knot was still on the line so I think the line broke. But that is a different post in a different forum. Pinching that little clip and attaching it to the split ring while it flops around in the wind when I'm not wearing my bifocals is a pain. I can see my Uni-Knot fine so I am putting the clips in the trash can. Just one guys opinion that is worth as much as you paid for it...SV
djmax22 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I will be trying the norman speed clips this year. I just hate tying on crankbaits. I usually end up catch myself a few times during the day. At least I know my hooks are sharp.
fooman Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I've used the speed clips but have since changed over to the duolocks.. Never had a problem with either one but have had problems with cheap no-knot fasteners breaking
Guest muddy Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I use duolocks and a polymar knot, and check the knot and the line in front of it. I retie as needed I have had great reults with this.
moby bass Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Catt highlighted this in his response and the question still remains. If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break?????
bassin95 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 i've never used the duolocks therefore i have no opinion on them. those of you that have experience with both speed clips and duolocks which do you think is better or have more confidence in. i think it may be preference. help thanks
Turtle. Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Catt highlighted this in his response and the question still remains.If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break????? A chain is only as strong as its weekest link I only tie direct,and retie often.
bassin95 Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I only tie direct,and retie often the speed clips give the crankbait more wobble action. and you can switch the bait much quicker without wasting line. retying often is a must expecially when fishing around cover
Guest muddy Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Catt highlighted this in his response and the question still remains.If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break????? A chain is only as strong as its weekest link I only tie direct,and retie often. If you do not use a rapala or someother kind of Loop Knot , you are running the action of the lure. I have been using Duolock clips for years and they are in no way a weak link.I have never had one fail.open or cause a break. I have had such issues with a rapidly tied knot, or fayed line
HesterIsGod Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 It sounds like you had line failure not snap failure. x2
Super User Hookemdown. Posted March 13, 2008 Super User Posted March 13, 2008 This maybe a little off subject, but I have a question: For those of you that use snaps, do you snap them onto the split ring or take the split rings off and snap directly to the line tie?
bassin95 Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 i have always attached the speed clip to the ring.
Guest muddy Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 This maybe a little off subject, but I have a question:For those of you that use snaps, do you snap them onto the split ring or take the split rings off and snap directly to the line tie? Good Question Hookem! I do a little bit of experimenting. I used wider/larger clips,Smaller clips, Rings and no ring. Inevitiably you find ways to manipulate the baits action and can use the same bait in different manners by just folling around with the various ways of tying on. A lot of different wobbles can be had
Super User Catt Posted March 13, 2008 Super User Posted March 13, 2008 Catt highlighted this in his response and the question still remains.If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break????? I guess we aint getting an answer moby
SV1000 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Posted March 13, 2008 The knot was still on the line so I think the line broke. But that is a different post in a different forum.Pinching that little clip and attaching it to the split ring while it flops around in the wind when I'm not wearing my bifocals is a pain. I can see my Uni-Knot fine so I am putting the clips in the trash can. I'm not blaming the clip for the loss of a fish and a .99 Horny Toad. But the Speed Clips are a PIA; however, I agree that the DuoSnap would be better. The line broke at the snap. That made sense to me when I wrote it and it still does. Now that I am using braid, I use scissors to cut the bait off below the knot, when I re-tie I just grab the knot with my teeth and pull it off the line. I tie a Uni-Knot and have for many years, I trust it. Sorry I didn't answer back quicker, I was out on the lake fishing!
Turtle. Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 Catt highlighted this in his response and the question still remains.If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break????? A chain is only as strong as its weekest link I only tie direct,and retie often. If you do not use a rapala or someother kind of Loop Knot , you are running the action of the lure. I have been using Duolock clips for years and they are in no way a weak link.I have never had one fail.open or cause a break. I have had such issues with a rapidly tied knot, or fayed line Ok muddy here we go again : First :I want to run the action of the lure. Not give the crankbait more wobble action.If this where the case I would change to one that fit my needs for a given situation.(wider wobble) Second: No where in my statement did I say that Duolock clips are a weak link What I said was" A chain is only as strong as its weekest link"What I ment was I am not going to add something else that could possibly fail. Third:If you have had such issues with a knot then it was a poorly tied knot wether to a snap or direct does not matter. And last:the question has still not been answered If the knot was still on the line, where did the line break?????
SV1000 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Posted March 13, 2008 I answered your question ^^^^ ----------------------knot- BREAK Speed Clip>HornyToad
Recommended Posts