"Bleeding Bait" trend opinions....

[Del from philly]

Personally, since iv seen them, i really dont care for the "bleeding bait" style of lure that is being embraced by fishing companys anywhere...

This includes:

cartoonish red paint markings and funny looking "drops"

bright red hooks

red tenticles on tubes

Im sure that not everyone aggrees, but this looks to me like a fisherman trap, not a fish trap...

Anyone who has seen a bleeding baitfish in the water knows that it looks NOTHING like the bleeding bait is trying to imitate.

The blood disperses through the water, it does not drip like the cartoon paint they put on these lures...

To me, it looks like a joke. Im not even doubting that it helps, maybe the color works....iv had some luck in the past with red hooks with certain color combos...

but the fact that we are supposed to buy the fact that these baits look like a bleeding fish is a joke. Do they think we are stupid?

How does a little red hook, or 3 cartoon drops of blood on a bait immitate a bleeding baitfish? Just doesnt work in my head....i could be wrong..

what about you guys? do you like the "bleeding baits" or do you share my opinion?

[fishnaddiction]

i dont like the bleeding bait series on cranks but for open finness water bleeding baits can make a pretty big difference   i like them  i like the bleeding bait jigs too

[HesterIsGod]

If you would actually use bleeding baits or better yet lures with red hooks, you would understand why they are important. What the bleeding effect does is it makes the fish swallow the lure more and hit it harder. The bleeding effect does not simulate and baitfish bleeding from the outside, it simulates when a prey fish gets hit and bleeds on the inside.

Bass are natural predators. So this bleeding effect makes them more aggressive, naturaly. One day this spring grab a buddy and tie on a lipless crank or a jerkbait, but substitute a red hook in the front on one of them. You will quickly learn that the fish swallow the bait with the red hook in front and you get a better hook up % and less thrown hooks

[NBR]

I am not a user. Guy I fish with is and I still out catch him by 4 to 1 which is about the same as before he started using the red hooks. The red comes off the hooks pretty fast for the extra cost.

[HesterIsGod]

I am not a user. Guy I fish with is and I still out catch him by 4 to 1 which is about the same as before he started using the red hooks. The red comes off the hooks pretty fast for the extra cost.

1. What hooks are you using that the red comes off easy???

2. What extra cost? A pack of red hooks in any style will cost the same as non red hooks, and bleeding baits cost the same.

3. Red hooks will not compensate for being bad at fishing, they will just make the fish swallow the lure more and bite harder. You are a better fisherman than your friend and that is why you outfish him.

[Fish Man]

i dont go out of my way to get them but if i have to i will buy red hooks or baits with them, the only other thing i dont miond is a little bit of red on the skirt of a spinnerbait or jig, anytthing else and forget it

[Jeff H]

I tried red Gamakatsu EWG hooks last year and compared them straight up to my usual Black Nickel....didn't make one bit of difference from what I could tell.  They look cool sometimes though  

[smallieking]

i dont think it matters   i do like the color of the bleeding bait tubes but i dont like strike king's attractant smell formula    i make my own bleeding baits and they work pretty good for smallies

[Guest muddy]

Yea this is what's wrong with America :-/

[Tpayneful]

I switched all of my front treble hooks on my crankbaits to the red hook.  I "think" it makes them target the front part of the lure.

Red is the first color to disapear underwater so at some depth I would think that it is just hype.

[dave]

I had a guide I know tell me he likes red hooks because when the red comes off they are a bright brass color.  Scientist come to our aid,  I believe that red does disappear first,  the deeper a bait gets.  In clear water,  I could see where it COULD be an advantage.  Stained water,  the way the science works,  I just don't think it matters as much.

[Madhouse27]

I've had quite a bit of success on the Strike King Pro Model Bleeding Bait tube. I'm not really convinced that it's necessarily the red color that's getting it done for this bait. It may just be that the tube itself has a nice size and fall to it.  I like some of the color combinations whether they had the red mixed in with them or not. Not sure of the concept, just pleased with the results. This is the one product among the "bleeding baits" that I'll continue to use and purchase.

[jjbassjj]

I like to have a little red on my bait or have red hooks(trebles only!!) but its just a confidence thing for me.

[vtspinnerb8t]

I think that the Red hooks work well when fishing within a school to help sustain the schools activity or increase the number of fish you catch from a given school(shallow schools).  

In other situations, just because you use red hooks, doesn't mean you will catch more fish, but I agree the fish I usually catch on red hooks tend to bite more aggressively, which usually helps land more fish.

[Del from philly]

hey, I got no prblems with the color Red....hell, iv had luck with red hooks too....

just seems like another way EVERY company markets the same old ideas towards catching fisherman and not fish....

a little red treble hook and 3 cartoon blood drippings is gonna simulate a wounded baitfish blood trail in water? you think?

[jrhennecke]

I think it is a confidence thing for those who use them.

[HesterIsGod]

Heres KVD's opinion on the matter.

http://www.strikeking.com/journal/00135/1.php

[Hot Rod]

Another line of logic says that the red is a trigger in bass not because of the prey but because of the flaring of the gills of other bass.  When a bass flares it's gills to swallow a bait it flashes red, giving other bass an indication that a feeding opprotunity is present.  The bass, being oppurtunistic and competitive with other bass, makes and instictive move for the bait.

I can't remeber exactly which pro thought that had more to do with it than the bleeding bait theorey.

I think that in difficult conditions with clear water, especially in techniques where the bass get a long look at the lure like drop shotting, the red hooks can be a disadvantage though.