anyone fish around johnstown, pa or allegheny county, md??

[fishnaddiction]

well the channel bite depends on if the fish are on the edge of the canyon or inside it  if they are on the edge i use a yum crawbug on a shaky head if they are inside a craw color trig senko  

for the grass bite it depends on the time of year   for the spawn i will use a powerbeast  in the summer if the fish are really on the piles a x rap ripping hard through the grass  if there is alot of fish in the grass and inbetween patchs i will use a senko with a small piece of lead in it rigged weightless texas  so i just tick the top of the weeds and let it sink in the holes    usally if the water is low and clear the fish are hidding deep in the weeds if the water is low and overcast or murky they are on the piles    

[smallieking]

o wow  lot of info thanks   i try topwater and flukes but never have much success   if we get a chance to go to that river together  u will have to show me how to fish that ditch or trench u are talking about  it sounds awesome

[fishnaddiction]

heddon torpedos work pretty good if the grass flat is shallow   i never tryed flukes  hmmm  i dont do very good on them anywhere on that river     yea the channel is neat  i like that entire hole    the broken dam really holds fish  then there is a grade slope from the camp side then there is a shelf on the away side with alot of bank grass  then on the top side of the hole there is a bunch of medium size rock with that channel   pike and musky sit in the hole alot too though which sucks

[smallieking]

yea i cant stand those things    those broken dams and wingdams on that river really produce alot of fish    its hard to find some of the points/wingdams though sometimes  there are alot of them up there in bedford/camp hartley area

[fishnaddiction]

o really?  a buddy of mine has a camp just one hole above hartley  wow  he has a boat on the river there and we always go fishing   but target docks, bluffs and deep coves   hmm  i got to check that out next time im over there  

[smallieking]

bluffs?  really  what presentations do u use for them   i know of a few little ones and i dont change up my presentation and catch some off of them  

[fishnaddiction]

o man really?  if i find one i can spend all day there catching nice fish  for the steeper and deeper ones no pun intended  i like a carolina rig, a grub, or a suspending jerkbait    if they are steep but kinda shallow i fish with a craw or small jig  if the bluffs arent as steep and taper  i like using jigs, topwater poppers or even crankbaits   my buddy is pretty good at fishing the tapering bluffs  he uses craws alot  he can really finess the thing around rock piles  lol  yea well i guess he would have to be pretty good at fishing them  he fishes them all the time

[smallieking]

o really wow  i never really fished them on that river   i mean i seen one and would quick cast it and catch some but i for what ever reason really never took the time to fish them throughly  hmm they dont look good for holding fish  hmm  thats something i will have to look into  

[fishnaddiction]

wow really?  yea some bluffs are alot better than others   the best ones i found were at my buddy's camp  there are alot but few that are deep or tapering   but the fish do hold on them  the bigger ones have random rock and some grass on them  those are the ones you want to target   if there was ever a tournament on raystown branch that would be what i would target because it is one of the few pieces of structure u are sure to catch at least a few good size ones off   that and deeper random rock piles

[smallieking]

hmm yea now i really want to go to the river with u so u can show me some and how to fish them   hmm  do u have any certain presenations for them?

[fishnaddiction]

no not really   my buddy really stressed that u must drag the bait on teh bottom instead of hopping it  and fish very slow   he said that the fish hold on irregular features on the bluffs or points and when you must keep in contact with the bait   then when u find a rock or weed  just shake the bait there and u will get bite  when we go we both catch fish but he definetly catches bigger ones  he fishes painfully slow but it works   that might be why your overlooking the area  

[smallieking]

hmm yea possible  i just normally cast and bounce the bottom  yea im going to have to try slowing down   i got to check into that bluff bite.  what types of jigs do u use

[fishnaddiction]

well a simple bitsy bug 1/8 ounce jig should is great  well  if im actually planning on just fishing bluffs i will use a 3/16 ounce finess jig  then if they are really hitting it and there are some bigger ones on it  i will cast a 1/2 ounce denny braurer pro stike jig       my buddy only uses yum crawbugs   im dont even sure he owns a jig   lol  im sure he does but he really really likes that craw  

[smallieking]

hmm  yea i was thinking a c-rig would be a pretty good bait for them too    i need to find some this year     how can u tell a good one from a bad one?

[fishnaddiction]

idk i never tried a crig    a well really the only way to know is casting to it an feeling how deep it is    if teh water is clear and your on a boat u can sometimes see them and see special features on them    im trying to get my buddy to get on this site but he wont   idk why

[smallieking]

o ok  yea i have never fished that river off a boat   lol  yea  talk him into it   i would llike to get more information on fishing them    

[fishnaddiction]

lol  ive been trying  he is a very good river angler  maybe we can all go fishing sometime on the raystown  

[smallieking]

yea sounds like fun  maybe make a small little tournament out of it or something    

[fishnaddiction]

yea  maybe   hes always fishing it   i actually tallked to him today about going sometime  

[smallieking]

cool  is that the only water u fish in bedford?

[fishnaddiction]

yea  there is a turnpike bridge just upstream from his camp from that bridge down to teh camp i fish    the turnpike bridge is just downstream of teh 30 bridge

[smallieking]

is the 30 bridge the bridge just above huckabee's and sheetz?  well i fish just upstream from that  then i fish somewhere below that behind the walmart

[Bassnbrett101]

if you guys are plannin a tournaments count me in  ;D

[smallieking]

lol  k  we are just talking  about bragging rights though  no money involved lol  

[Pittsburgh Reeler]

smallie-  last fished the OH 2x and the mon once.  this year, allegheny is on our shedule.  but since i live pretty close to the southside, sometimes i fish the Mon there from shore off behind 18th street.

Paangler- Gander Mt. in J-town is one of the better Ganders I have seen.