Floridabassking352 Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I was just wondering if any of you have fished senkos wacky style with a weight, and if so, was it effective? I tried fishing a similar bait (Tiki Stik) weightless and it is WAY TOO SLOW. I just don't have the patience to fish it like this and would prefer to fish it with a weight. Will these baits such as the senkos and tiki stiks still give plenty of action and catch fish when used with a weight? Quote
Guest Texas_Bass_Pro Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 This is what "I" do. Emphasis on "I". I place a split shot weight on the hook itself if not on the line just above the eye of the hook. Both works okay for "me." I just not too big of a fan when it comes to a wacky rig. Give it a shot and let us know how you do. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 4, 2007 Super User Posted January 4, 2007 Nope...never. Fishing a Senko slow = big bass. Wassup with that? Quote
justfishin Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Never, I always fish a Senko weightless. I do fish a green pumpkin/black flake Zoom Centipede wacky style around docks sometimes with a 1/64oz wt. made by Gremlin on 6 or 8 pound test if the water is clear. Quote
Crabcakes Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I would not fish my senkos with a weight when rigged wacky style. I don't feel that is the most effective way to fish that bait and rig combination. Quote
Valascus Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I never fish my senkos with a weight...ever. Like RW stated, fishing a senko weightless FORCES you to slow down. This slow, do nothing action is exactly how the bait was designed to be used for. It puts fish in the boat. I have no problem fishing a sow technique if it catches fish. Quote
Brad_Coovert Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I've never fished a weighted Wacky Rig, but I will fish a weighted Senko. A 5" Senko, straight shank, round bend Gammy 4/0 hook and a 1/4-5/16 oz. screw in weight can be a very effective bait. I fish this quite a bit around vertical cover such as dock pilings and standing trees. Works well. It's also one of Gary's favorite rigs. Brad Quote
rocknfish9001 Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I know thats popular with the swimming senkos. And in super deep water, i imagine a c-rig would be fine. I have fished them on split shot rigs when we were on the lake a couple of time because the captn likes to fish tubes and fish them fast. I couldnt keep up with them boat without any weight. I was a little p.o.'d about that, although i still managed to get the big fish of the day. (on a senko) Quote
flippin4it. Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I will place a small split shot about 6 to 12 inches from the hook while wacky rigging and use a weighted EWG 4/0 hook when t-rigging. This is only if there is "wind". Any other time it's gotta be wieghtless. Quote
George Welcome Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 First: a Tiki stik is not a Senko. Second: don't be afraid to try anything - experimentation and imagination will only improve your fishing game. Quote
Vyron Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 weighted wacky not but as a t-rig lots of times,sometimes it will catch fish when other methods fail Quote
oijgesrsvser Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Actually it really depends on the weight of the sticks. Some people vary their weight depending on how they want to fish them. Wacky style is regular and they flutter / wiggle down. T rigged and spit shot are usually made WITHOUT any salt so there is not added weight for MORE action. When you buy off the shelf sticks... you get only OFF THE SHELF baits that the mfg sets the standards on. If you want to use sticks with a weight go SALTLESS for more action. Quote
rodrick williams Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I fish the senko shaped lizard with a small pellet weight on the hook. the weight depends on how much time i want it to reach bottom. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 5, 2007 Super User Posted January 5, 2007 If you run a simple water test you'll find that the senko falls slightly faster than the tiki stick and has slightly more tail-waddle. However, when you add 1/32oz to the tiki stick, you'd be real hard put to see any difference at all in their fall rate and tail-shimmy. To answer your question: Yes, I routinely fish a tiki stick with a 1/32 or 1/16 oz bullet sinker. Roger Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 5, 2007 Super User Posted January 5, 2007 I was just wondering if any of you have fished senkos wacky style with a weight, and if so, was it effective? I tried fishing a similar bait (Tiki Stik) weightless and it is WAY TOO SLOW. I just don't have the patience to fish it like this and would prefer to fish it with a weight. Will these baits such as the senkos and tiki stiks still give plenty of action and catch fish when used with a weight? Yup I do. There are no "rules", nothing is written on stone, if you follow "rules" and don 't experiment you are missing many opportunities, the ART of fishing has no limitations except those you impose to yourself. Many times the difference between having a great day and getting skunked is your lack of imagination. Try this: Grab a 4 inch senko Insert a nail weight on the head Grab a 1/0 Kahle hook and insert it like if you were wacky rigging but instead of placing it in the middle of the worm insert it along the seam line of the worm behind the nail weight. Now cast and let it sink for a few seconds, and then begin twitching the bait with your rod tip, the bait will dart with it 's head pointing down and will swim away from you. Lethal when bass develop a severe case of shutmouthitis like after a cold front. Quote
The_Natural Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 I will fish them Texas Rigged with a 1/8oz pegged weight occasionally. This bailed me out last year during a ridiculously tough bite in our last tournament of the year. I had only caught two short fish all day, and went with a Watermelon/cream laminate Senko as a 'panic bait'. I still didn't have a fish 45 minutes after going with a Senko, and decided to peg a 1/8oz bullet weight to make it fall faster and dart more erratically when jerked. I immediately caught a 2lber to save me from blanking for the day, and when weigh in came around it was apparent everyone else was having a tough day as well. I took second place and big bass with a 2lber! That says something about the fishing that day . Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 5, 2007 Super User Posted January 5, 2007 I was just wondering if any of you have fished senkos wacky style with a weight, and if so, was it effective? I tried fishing a similar bait (Tiki Stik) weightless and it is WAY TOO SLOW. I just don't have the patience to fish it like this and would prefer to fish it with a weight. Will these baits such as the senkos and tiki stiks still give plenty of action and catch fish when used with a weight? Yup I do. There are no "rules", nothing is written on stone, if you follow "rules" and don 't experiment you are missing many opportunities, the ART of fishing has no limitations except those you impose to yourself. Many times the difference between having a great day and getting skunked is your lack of imagination. Try this: Grab a 4 inch senko Insert a nail weight on the head Grab a 1/0 Kahle hook and insert it like if you were wacky rigging but instead of placing it in the middle of the worm insert it along the seam line of the worm behind the nail weight. Now cast and let it sink for a few seconds, and then begin twitching the bait with your rod tip, the bait will dart with it 's head pointing down and will swim away from you. Lethal when bass develop a severe case of shutmouthitis like after a cold front. OOOPS, I think I have just revealed one of my "secret n 'dirty" rigs. :-/ Never mind. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 5, 2007 Super User Posted January 5, 2007 Grab a 4 inch senko Insert a nail weight on the head Grab a 1/0 Kahle hook and insert it like if you were wacky rigging but instead of placing it in the middle of the worm insert it along the seam line of the worm behind the nail weight. Now cast and let it sink for a few seconds, and then begin twitching the bait with your rod tip, the bait will dart with it 's head pointing down and will swim away from you. Good stuff Raul! I often use a 3/64oz nail weight, but the Kahle hook is a pregnant idea. I'll give that one a whirl. Roger Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 5, 2007 Super User Posted January 5, 2007 Kahles work best Roger, it 's the L shape of the hook what allows you to hook through more plastic, regular hooks don 't work well, the round bend grabs only a little bit of plastic and you loose a lot of baits..... mostly during the cast >, you see your worm flying like a bat out of hell into oblivion and further beyond while the only thing still attatched to your line is a bare hook. : Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 There is no wrong way to fish a senko style bait. Lately I have been fishing one on a shakey rig and a regular jig head. I havent caught anything off it but I know I will. Like Raul said if your not expermenting your missing out. Quote
flyphisher # Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Placed in a tournament this past spring, blindcasting t-rigged senko knockoffs to bedding areas and slowly dragging them back to the boat. Used 3/8 oz. tungsten weights to feel the bites. Dont know how we stumbled on the pattern, but it put a nice chunk of money in our pockets. Quote
hi_steel_basser Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 Senkos do well on shaky heads, and fished like a fluke with a nail weight1/32-1/16 oz in the TAIL. Quote
cbfishalot Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 I fish them on a shakey head. I have read about some pros fishing them on a carolina rig but I have not tried it. Quote
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