slight problem any help?

[smallieking]

i was thinking about fishing for this upcoming season   i was thinking about one of my favorite small rivers that i wade. well there is alot of shad in it and my favorite baits are the shallow shad rap and glass shad rap.  well i like the shallaw sr on my spinning rod and the glass sr on my light baitcaster.  well i normally only take one rod with me when i go wading  i would like to use both baits so i can adjust to the depth of the river   any suggestions?  the only think i thought of is just taking both rods and leaving one on shore and carrying both when i move but i really dont want to do that  

[dman]

a sloution i have used:  pick up one of those telescoping rods at Gander Mt...Might be like $20 or something,  Get a backpack and you can keep your tackle plus the extra rod in there.  And its very comfortable  

[fishizzle]

try replacing the split ring on both lures with the qiuck change teardrop shaped ring (sorry, I don't know the name of it yet)

So 1 rod, 2 lures, 5 second lure change

[dumb_dog11]

a sloution i have used: pick up one of those telescoping rods at Gander Mt...Might be like $20 or something, Get a backpack and you can keep your tackle plus the extra rod in there. And its very comfortable

x2

the telescoping spinning rod would work, then just carry ur light baitcaster.

[.dsaavedra.]

why cant you just use both baits on the same rod :-?

[fishizzle]

I meant in my last reply to tie the snap to your line, then quick snap to your lure without a split ring

Or a snap without a swivel

I hope this helps--I hate going to the bank to get another rod when you can just walk upsteam in the water

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewultimateluresaver.html

[fishnaddiction]

i have the same problem when fishing creeks   sometimes i will take a float tube that u sit in and fish just put alot of tackle in it and some rods  just tie it on your belt and its always there   it does get in the way alittle but works pretty good    then for the river u can just jump in and fish out of it  

[smallieking]

the shallow swimming bait is very light and doesnt cast well on my baitcaster and i dont want to use the deeper diver on my spinning because my small cranking spinning rod isnt very strong to get a good hookset with that bait and my rodtip isnt use to that type of resistance      

how hard is it to get out and put away the telescoping rod?  i dont want to take 10 minutes just to break down a telescoping rod and put it away      i dont know i never used a telescoping rod  

[Grey Wolf]

May I ask what your spinning outfit is ?

ROD---power/action.

REEL SIZE----

[smallieking]

its a 6 foot med light diawa rod    not sure what the reel size is  its a small mitchell   its the perfect rod for really little jerkbaits and crankbaits for trout  but i like it for cranks that is too light for a bc      

[Grey Wolf]

Your rod should be rated for 4-10 lb. line and 1/8-1/2 oz. baits.

You said you didn"t want to throw deep cranks with it. How deep are you talking about ? Unless you are throwing into ten ft. or deeper, your rod would be good enough if you have your drag set properly.

[smallieking]

8-10 foot    i just dont feel comfortable throwing heavier cranks with it  i want my rods to last     how hard is it to fold up and unfold those telescoping rods?

[Grey Wolf]

SORRY , I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH ANY INFO. ON TELESCOPING RODS. GOOD LUCK.

[.dsaavedra.]

smallieking, they are very easy to expand and collapse. all you do it just strech it out to its full length to expand it. and then just push the sections toward the butt to collapse. the process takes a few seconds.

but according to rapalas website, the 2.5" version of the shallow shad rap is 3/16oz, the 2.75" version is 1/4 oz, and the 3.5" version weighs 3/8oz. so the only one i could see as being difficult to cast is the 2.5" version. im sure if you practiced in your yard casting your shallow shad rap and playing w/ the controls on your casting reel, you could cast it no problem once the reel is set up right.

perhaps it would be easier to just buy a bigger bait instead of buying a new rod? im sure the fish wouldnt notice 1/4" increase in size. those crankbaits are more of a reaction strike than a finesse type lure, so it wouldnt matter much.

[smallieking]

o thanks  yea if i wanted to i can throw it on the bc but its very difficult to make accurate cast and if there is any wind  you wont be able to   just because u can throw a lure on something doesnt mean u should

i dont want any more new cranks  the one i have is perfect for shallow water   i jsut need something that will help me carry two rods while i wade    not just for different size cranks but for all types of different presentions i want to use at the same time    like when your on the boat  u can just put one rod down and pick up another    well dsaava how much does a telescoping rod cost  and how dependable are they  i dont want to send 50 bucks on something that will break as soon as i hook into a fish

[HesterIsGod]

im gonna have to disagree with you guys a little. I dont recommend the telescopic rods. I had a lot of experience with them because i used to frequently use them when i back packed deep into the montanian wilderness with my dad in search of trout. They are not durable, break easily, the guides break or chip easily, and after a year or so, the parts of the pole start to stick together when they come out. Do you know how FRUSTRATING it is when they do that. I cant imagine how frustrating that would be while wading in the middle of a flowing stream.

Just my opinion on them, maybe we just got a few bad brands

I suggest using snap swivels, their quick and dont negatively affect the action of baits w/ split rings.

[.dsaavedra.]

o thanks yea if i wanted to i can throw it on the bc but its very difficult to make accurate cast and if there is any wind you wont be able to just because u can throw a lure on something doesnt mean u should

i dont want any more new cranks the one i have is perfect for shallow water i jsut need something that will help me carry two rods while i wade not just for different size cranks but for all types of different presentions i want to use at the same time like when your on the boat u can just put one rod down and pick up another well dsaava how much does a telescoping rod cost and how dependable are they i dont want to send 50 bucks on something that will break as soon as i hook into a fish

ok your argument makes sense. it would be nice to have a second rod for fast access to a different lure.

as far as the rod goes, im not sure how much they cost. i have never purchased one. i had one given to me as a gift (A very cheap crappy one) and it broke. at first it was easy operating, but shorly after it broke. i personally wouldnt reccomend a teloscopic rod either, cuz i feel they are un-reliable.

what you might consider is just getting a slightly shorter than normal (maybe 5' 8" or 6') 2 piece spinning rod, and just breaking it down and sticking it in a backback. sure the tops of the two pieces of rod will be sticking out, but its not like you have to be concerned about looking like a dork when you fish ;D

one of my buddies left his 2 pc. spinnign rod at my house once and i brought it to school to give it to him and i just broke it down and stuck it in my backpack with the tops sticking out.

[Grey Wolf]

THIS IS GETTING BORING!!!!!!!!!

[Stringjam]

Just use the balsa diving Shad Rap instead of the Glass Rap - - - they're lighter - and they don't have any problem catching fish.  

[smallieking]

yea dsaava i thought about 2 piece rods but it takes too long to break them down and wrap em up

thanks hester  i was going to go buy one   thanks  good thing im not now    hmmm

yea i try the balsa style to see how it works   i think im going to buy a few in like a 6 foot diving   hell i might even buy a new spinning rod just for this situation    what do u guys think?   i dont want an expensive rod just a simple spinning rod i can use any crankbait with   im thinking like a 6'6 foot medium action    reply im interseted in what u guys think of just a new rod

[.dsaavedra.]

how does it take long to break down a 2pc. rod? theres nothin to it! just take it apart (2 seconds) and then reel in the slack (5 seconds) and stuff it in your backpack (10 seconds). its that easy.

as far as getting a new rod just for this situation, i would much rather buy a different bait than buy a different rod.

im sure the fish will bite other things than the shallow shad rap or glass shad rap.

so do like stringjam said, either get a heavier shallow diver or a lighter deep diver and only pack one rod.

[smallieking]

well then it takes 10 minutes to get it back out    aaa well i need a verstiable rod    i know that these two baits work at this one river  yea i was thinking about a little bit shallower running glass rap and it would be ok   but i think im goin to just get a new rod    so i can use it for a bunch of different techinques and other gamefish    but i  really dont know of any good veristal rods    so  i will have to shop around   hmm idk

[roadwarrior]

You can fish just about everything you would normally fish on a river with one rod. I suggest a Medium Power/ Fast Action spinning rod. You don't "need" anything else.

8-)

[Bass n Bows]

If you don't have any problems with overhanging trees where you wade then I would suggest using a backpack or a hydration pack to put your spare rod into.  I just bought a hydration pack at wallmart.  It is just like a backpack but a lot smaller and more comfortable, and I can fit 3 rods in it perfectly!

[Zel]

Don't know anything about them, but have you seen these?

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0036759018468a.shtml

http://www.thirdgrip.com/index.htm