Super User buzzed bait Posted March 18, 2016 Super User Posted March 18, 2016 17 hours ago, iabass8 said: New toy. Really considering getting a second one. This is one super stick. DX742C HP TDZ 100ML 100m spool Boca orange 7s 7:1 gear set Carbon Fiber drag 90MM CF handle TDZ Type R + drag star OG Zillion Type R + knobs 10# green Sunline FC sniper man those new DX HP are sweet looking rods, but the same hook keeper that i love to hate..... Â Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 18, 2016 Super User Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, buzzed bait said: man those new DX HP are sweet looking rods, but the same hook keeper that i love to hate..... Â closed hook keepers are the worst. OpenStyle4Lyfe 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted March 18, 2016 Super User Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, iabass8 said: closed hook keepers are the worst. OpenStyle4Lyfe Hashtagyouforgotthehashtag Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 23 hours ago, rippin-lips said: I scored a 100ml last week for cheap. I'm excited to try it out. It's a great little reel. I lied in my post about the spool. I always forget this is in there. Whoever sold me this reel either forgot about it being in there or was just being a sweetheart. He graciously left me a TDZ Type R+ spool. I have a couple Type R+ reels. They are my favorite. 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 2 hours ago, iabass8 said: It's a great little reel. I lied in my post about the spool. I always forget this is in there. Whoever sold me this reel either forgot about it being in there or was just being a sweetheart. He graciously left me a TDZ Type R+ spool. I have a couple Type R+ reels. They are my favorite. Isn't the R+ spool only for the standard tdz/Steez/t3 platform? 100m spool is larger and fits 100m/ml and OG zillion. Quote
hzzhangc Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 The R+spool is 32mm so it should fit the 100m or zillion which use 34mm spool. You can also see a space in the pic. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 1 hour ago, hzzhangc said: The R+spool is 32mm so it should fit the 100m or zillion which use 34mm spool. You can also see a space in the pic. Yeah, I knew they were 2 different sizes. I knew people adapted different sized spools using spacers but I've never heard of someone just using it with the gap. You'd think tons of people would just throw the smaller sv spool in the og zillion and call it a day if it works without any issues. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 56 minutes ago, rippin-lips said: Yeah, I knew they were 2 different sizes. I knew people adapted different sized spools using spacers but I've never heard of someone just using it with the gap. You'd think tons of people would just throw the smaller sv spool in the og zillion and call it a day if it works without any issues. You are correct. Me on the other hand, can't keep all my TDZs in order. I must have put one of my 103s on the 742 and my 100m on another dx. The us trail tag is worn off of that 100m so i must have confused them. Ive swapt spools around and the gap is annoying. Ive had line get in it on an og zillion and a 100. I dont use the 100 for much under 5/16oz + plastic and heavy fluoro. the r+ spool is really nice for everything. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 I know what you mean. I have 3 103's and a 100ml in the mail. Quote
TxHawgs Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 This is asking for your guys opinions and feel it's better asked in her than in another thread. U guys like me are really into your tackle and that's why I posted in hear. I need a real for a CB and SWB rod. CB rod is gonna be for stuff like 1.5 2.5 squarebills but Shimano doesn't make any of there high end low profile left hand reels in low gear ratio. So it's either a Mentanium in the 6.4 or whatever it is or a Calcutta Conquest in the 101 size. I haven't owned a round reel for a long time and only concerned of the sz. for palming it and the weight. SWB and A rig rod isn't going to be for huge baits but stuff like 2 to 4oz. Don't think I have a choice with this one, if sticking w Shimano it's gonna have to be a round. Will a 201 cover me on the newer small A rigs and 2 to 3 oz swimbaits? Sorry it's a lot of stuff to ask and thanks guys. Quote
byram bassturd Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 I have a conquest 101dc and used to have a 101. I think that it would work great for the squarebills that you mention. A 201 would work better for the swimbaits esp. the heavier ones because of the higher line capacity. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 1 hour ago, TxHawgs said: This is asking for your guys opinions and feel it's better asked in her than in another thread. U guys like me are really into your tackle and that's why I posted in hear. I need a real for a CB and SWB rod. CB rod is gonna be for stuff like 1.5 2.5 squarebills but Shimano doesn't make any of there high end low profile left hand reels in low gear ratio. So it's either a Mentanium in the 6.4 or whatever it is or a Calcutta Conquest in the 101 size. I haven't owned a round reel for a long time and only concerned of the sz. for palming it and the weight. SWB and A rig rod isn't going to be for huge baits but stuff like 2 to 4oz. Don't think I have a choice with this one, if sticking w Shimano it's gonna have to be a round. Will a 201 cover me on the newer small A rigs and 2 to 3 oz swimbaits? Sorry it's a lot of stuff to ask and thanks guys. Well, if you're stuck on Shimano, really any of their higher end offerings will throw a 1.5/2.5 exceptionally well. If you have a half-way competent thumb, engaging a single brake tab and keeping the brakes low will throw a bait a mile pretty effortlessly. The only thing to really concern yourself is the reels form factor as Shimanos frames differ and palm different series to series. At least to me they do. I personally throw all my squarebills and mid depth cranks on TDZ 100MLs. I prefer the 5 gear ratio for squarebills but I throw them in a lot of heavy wood and shallow shallow rock. Those reels are just butter smooth and the 100m spool is pretty effortless. Can't help you /w swimbaits. Quote
TxHawgs Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, iabass8 said: Well, if you're stuck on Shimano, really any of their higher end offerings will throw a 1.5/2.5 exceptionally well. If you have a half-way competent thumb, engaging a single brake tab and keeping the brakes low will throw a bait a mile pretty effortlessly. The only thing to really concern yourself is the reels form factor as Shimanos frames differ and palm different series to series. At least to me they do. I personally throw all my squarebills and mid depth cranks on TDZ 100MLs. I prefer the 5 gear ratio for squarebills but I throw them in a lot of heavy wood and shallow shallow rock. Those reels are just butter smooth and the 100m spool is pretty effortless. Can't help you /w swimbaits. I'm gonna pick up some high end Daiwa reels later this yr. Some in the Steez lineup. The decision I need to make so I can purchase this now is 5.2 or 6.4 ratio for squarebills and the more I think about it I'm leaning towards the 6.4. Just think the 5.2 is too slow. Actually I'm in a ton of timber on Fork also, can u tell me what makes the 5.2 better in wood? Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 19, 2016 Super User Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, TxHawgs said: I'm gonna pick up some high end Daiwa reels later this yr. Some in the Steez lineup. The decision I need to make so I can purchase this now is 5.2 or 6.4 ratio for squarebills and the more I think about it I'm leaning towards the 6.4. Just think the 5.2 is too slow. Actually I'm in a ton of timber on Fork also, can u tell me what makes the 5.2 better in wood? The TDZ is 5.7. It isn't so much "better" rather than personal preference. My 5.7 TDZ is roughly 22 IPT. The 6.4 Metanium is probably around 27-28. It isn't a night a day difference really.  In my experience, working balsa squarebills through timber and brush requires some finesse and a slow gear ratio prohibits me from burning it through the laydown without missing branches and not hitting spots that I should have been banging that bait into.  It isn't a snails pace or anything that people for some reason think 5X is. Unless you're bombing a lipless bait in open water and ripping it through grass, you aren't going to notice a huge difference in retrieve rates on short line casts. The difference is there, but it's so minimal for most target casting techniques I don't even pay attention to it.. I'd put an emphasis on how a reel feels on the rod over a 5-6 difference in IPT. Even if I was after a reel that I wanted to burn a bait back, I'll choose the reel that feels better in hand and on the rod over being uncomfortable 11 times out of 10. If you want the 6.4 mentanium, I'd just get it and don't think twice about it. You aren't going to notice a huge difference in a 5X Mentanium vs a 6.4 throwing squarebills. Lipless baits, the 6.4 would be nicer. It isn't as if you can go wrong /w the Metanium. I don't recall hearing a single bad thing about the reel. You're overthinking it. Just get it if you want it. Quote
DirtyDeuceGoose Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I caught my PB on a chronarch e7 throwing a 1.5 on a mojo spinnerbait rod. If that doesn't debunk some tech-spec myths I don't know what will! Quote
JGBassinAL Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I throw my squarebills with a Core 50MG7. You can really throw a shallow crank with any gear ratio. I think the Met in 6.2:1 or the new Scorpion in 6.2:1 would be perfect. For swimbaits get you a Curado 300E if you aren't into round reels. I love the 300E. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 7 hours ago, iabass8 said: You're overthinking it. Just get it if you want it. This Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 I guess it's mandatory to add a custom handle to post in this thread: And before the custom handle: And of course, my rule is that you have to catch a fish. It's not a very big bass...but it's a genuine largemouth bass... (The reel still had a stock handle in this photo - imagine that - you don't NEED the custom handle to catch fish... Of course, now that I have the custom handle, I'll probably catch bigger bass...   )  8 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 What was the difference in size between the original handle and the aftermarket handle? Looks like the original handle was 75mm and aftermarket around 85mm? Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 38 minutes ago, kickerfish1 said: What was the difference in size between the original handle and the aftermarket handle? Looks like the original handle was 75mm and aftermarket around 85mm? Early Abu handle sizes were based on the length of the handle, not center-to-center on the knobs as we measure today. So, the original handle is about 65mm, and the longer handle is the "power handle" size at 90mm. Measured "modern-method"Â (center-to-center), the early handle is about 56mm, the longer handle is a whopping 81mm ! Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 Interesting! Really puts into perspective how handle length and gear ratios have quickly changed as of late. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 20, 2016 Super User Posted March 20, 2016 18 hours ago, kickerfish1 said: Interesting! Really puts into perspective how handle length and gear ratios have quickly changed as of late. Actually, the short handle lengths on early Abus were somewhat of necessity. Most early Record reels, and some of the Ambassadeurs of the series of the reel in the photo, were direct drive "knucklebusters" where the handle spun on the cast and was part of the overall rotating mass. The shorter/lighter the handle, the less mass, resulting in longer casting distance. The reel in the photo is an interesting hybrid. It's direct drive and has no drag system or anti-reverse...BUT, it has a mechanism that disengages the handle during the cast (everything else is turning though - the spool, line guide, gears).  So, handle mass doesn't affect the casting distance and thus allows the luxury of upgrading the handle. Ah, the good old days ! 1 Quote
FrankN209 Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 My Bass Fishing Setup for 2016 For heavy swimbaits Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5601C4 Bass Pro Bionic Blade RT3 Heavy 7'6" BIB76HT-Fast-Lure Weight:1 - 4 oz Medium All Purpose Johnny Morris XPS JMX10HLC Bass Pro Bionic Blade 7' Medium-BNX70MT-Lure Weight:1/4 - 5/8 oz Finesse Light Weight Team Lew's Pro Magnesium Speed Spool ACB TLM1SHL Powell Max3D 6'10" Medium Mod-Fast-6104CBMOD-Fast-Lure Weight:1/4-3/4 oz Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 22, 2016 Super User Posted March 22, 2016 Finally able to find a J Dream limited for a good price and in really good condition. #dreamteam 8 Quote
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