adjusting bc for fluoro?

[jeremyt]

I recently switched to fluorocarbon on some of my baitcasters.  I have tried adjusting the brakes and have had no success.  Every other cast I am getting birds nest.  I had no problems with mono on this setup.  I have heard that fluoro is harder to cast. It seems that I can get a few solid casts after using some line condtioner.  Any suggestions?  I am getting frustrated seeing that I am wasting some pretty expensive line.

[KYntucky Warmouth]

honestly, I don't notice a difference between the Copoly and FC lines I use when it comes to casting.  With my shimanos I use two brakes, my Daiwa and Revo mag brakes are usually around 60-75% and I adjust my spool tension according to conditions.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I can see flouro needing a little more braking and thumb since it is stiffer than mono so a lure of the same weight may not pull the line as easily. KVD Line & Lure and making sure the line is not spooled loosely couple other things that may help. I've gone to braid w/backing on pretty much everything with an appropriate leader where conditions dictate.

[rubba bubba]

What weight fluoro? It's going to be stiffer and retain more coil memory than mono so it won't cast the same. You'll have to tweak the brakes, but it's your thumb that you need to focus more on.  Line conditioner will help some but it won't magically transform it into soft and supple velvet either..

[jeremyt]

Thanks for the replies, I will keep playing with the reel until I get it figured out. I am currently using 12# vanish.

[WanderLust]

Thanks for the replies, I will keep playing with the reel until I get it figured out. I am currently using 12# vanish.

Not a huge fan of Vanish... Line and Lure is a must!

[senile1]

I can see flouro needing a little more braking and thumb since it is stiffer than mono so a lure of the same weight may not pull the line as easily. KVD Line & Lure and making sure the line is not spooled loosely couple other things that may help. I've gone to braid w/backing on pretty much everything with an appropriate leader where conditions dictate.

I agree with DVT's remark above. When I spool a BC reel with nothing but fluoro and then go back and put it on the rod, the last few loops often seem to try to "jump off" the reel. After placing the reel on the rod and tying on a lure, I always pull off some line to remove any slack from the spooled fluoro and then reel it back tight. I would almost bet that this is your issue.

[jeremyt]

I can see flouro needing a little more braking and thumb since it is stiffer than mono so a lure of the same weight may not pull the line as easily. KVD Line & Lure and making sure the line is not spooled loosely couple other things that may help. I've gone to braid w/backing on pretty much everything with an appropriate leader where conditions dictate.

I agree with DVT's remark above. When I spool a BC reel with nothing but fluoro and then go back and put it on the rod, the last few loops often seem to try to "jump off" the reel. After placing the reel on the rod and tying on a lure, I always pull off some line to remove any slack from the spooled fluoro and then reel it back tight. I would almost bet that this is your issue.

I have done that a few times after the backlashes. I would clear the nest out and then pull the line off down to the spool.  Spray the KVD L and L on a rag and put tension on the line with my hand as I reeled it back tight. It just seems like during the cast the line is coming loose on the spool causing the birds nest.  I am also thumbing the spool with my thumb.  I guess I need to maybe adjust three of the brakes on my reel ( Citica) and try again, but that has always been too much for me in the past and severely limited the distance I could cast.

[BassininVT]

[BobP]

Fluoro is a little more dense and heavier than copolymer so may require a little more cast control.  But it shouldn't be such a difference that you can't control it on most baitcasters and the casting distance should be virtually the same.  Maybe your thumb will need to be re-educated slightly but I think you'll like fluoro when you get used to throwing it.

[Locked]

I just learned how to use a baitcaster last year. The night before and sometimes a little before I go fishing I will spray some line and lure conditioner on the spool. A couple spritzes, reel a little so you turn the spool some, and spray a couple more times. I have no problems with fluoro when I do that. I would also like to note that I'm still using the same bottle from almost a year ago.

You can also put line and lure conditioner on non fluorocarbon lines to make them more manageable.

[Hammer 4]

Being that your using vanish, I can understand why you get backlashes..lol Your thumb may need a little training too.

Toss that line, and get some yozuri ultrasoft, or invisx..

[ripinthem]

Hammer is right. Vanish has way too much memory. I've been where you are with it.  You need to make it Vanish, if you know what I mean.

[MickD]

12# Yozuri ultra soft casts like a dream, but it's a hybrid, not 100% flouro.  I've also had trouble with flouro, am ready to try some of the new ones.  I agree with comments on vanish-I've had trouble with its knot strength, too.

[PowerFinesse]

Vanish is a poor product IMO. Try Seagur InvizX or if cost is an issue try Viscous..

[Wayne P.]

BobP actually knows the fluorocarbon deal with baitcasters, It weighs more so you need more braking to control overruns.