HookSetDon Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Personally, I wouldn't even consider a Citica at full retail when I can get a Curado on Ebay for $20 more...shipped to my door. i cant find a currado for cheaper then 200 on ebay for 20 bucks more id do it, but 99-200 a big difference - retract that i was looking on the canadian ebay, i found on ebay.com currado e for 149 w/ free shipping and citica e for 89 w/ free shipping, lets have a vote lol Quote
polywog Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 Well I read every last one of your replies and I really appreciate all the response! I just bought a Curado on E-bay about 10 minutes ago. Its name came up a lot and only less than a tank of gas over my budget. Now I have to find a rod. Thanks to all, Ron Quote
HookSetDon Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Well I read every last one of your replies and I really appreciate all the response! I just bought a Curado on E-bay about 10 minutes ago. Its name came up a lot and only less than a tank of gas over my budget. Now I have to find a rod. Thanks to all, Ron u end up getting it for 149? Quote
polywog Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 It was 138.84 and free shipping, so I thought it was an OK deal. Quote
Stasher1 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 It was 138.84 and free shipping, so I thought it was an OK deal. As I said, $20 more than full retail on a Citica. Good score. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 It was 138.84 and free shipping, so I thought it was an OK deal. I saw that price on eBay and almost bought one myself last night! I was going to recommend a PQ for you but if you ended up happy with your cost - then you got a great deal on a fine reel. Enjoy! Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I want all you Pro qualifier guys to come back in 5 years. I'll still be fishing my old (by then) Citica and Curado E's, my really old Citica and Curado D's, and my antique Curado B's, while your talking about the next "best" $100 reel. OK. My records show that I put my "most used" (so far) PQ in service on October 26, 2009. I just set a reminder in my scheduling program to go off on October 26, 2014. I'll give you a report then. I have saved the link to this thread and will capture a screen shot of this post as well and have it on file if for some reason this thread is not viewable in 2014. At present, I have 12 BPS BC reels: 2 ProLites, 2 Rick Clunns, 2 Carbonlites, and 6 PQs. Of those, the ProLites, Rick Clunns, and the low-ratio PQs are niche reels that will probably last a lifetime at their current service rates. What I will report back on is those PQs and Carbonlites that have seen relatively constant use. Regarding "use rates" - I fished about 300 days last year. So, is that typical for all anglers? If my PQ reels do show wear or become unserviceable - then did they give 5 years of service? Are my 5 years the same as other angler's 5 years. How about northern anglers that have hardwater for 4 months - they only fish for bass for 8 months (or less if they have closed seasons). Then, they may be working and only fish a few times a week. So their "year" of fishing may only be 60 days on the water. Something to think about. I keep relatively good fishing records, but I will NOT be able to tell you how many days that I fished each reel since I maintain a "catch" log - not a fishing day log. I WILL be able to tell you how many fish were caught on each reel, and using an average number of casts per fish (probably around 25 or so - have no records on this...but my waters are not continuously productive - I get skunked from time to time!) I will be able to give an estimate of the number of "cycles" (casts & retrieves). I would be able to state (if I wanted to crunch the numbers) the total weight of the fish caught with each reel (it would take some work - not just file sorting). Another metric I could generate would be the types of baits that were used for each reel - this would provide some measure of reel service as a bait worked with the rod tip like soft plastics probably presents less strain to the reel than cranking for instance. Those are some metrics that come to mind that would provide some evidence of the amount of "use" and resulting durability of the reel(s). As an example: The reel that I put in service on 10-26-09 (PQ#2) has so far caught only 171 fish - perhaps 4200 cycles or so. I completely disassembled that reel for service last month and see no wear other than a little on the clutch return pawl - I'll be keeping an eye on that. At the same rate, in another 3.5 years, it would have only caught a total of 641 fish. Perhaps 16,000 cycles? Is that a lot? Who knows. Let's find out! In return, you can report on how many, or all, of your current ( by then old) reels are still in your possession and serviceable. See you in 2014... BTW - on old stuff (as I just posted in another thread) I sorta know how to keep gear in service. My "new" car is 23 years-old, my "old" car is 39 years-old. I fish 25 year-old reels, and still occasionally fish my 45 year-old gear. So, I'm somewhat familiar with using, and keeping older gear... Quote
hookingem Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 For a second I thought I was in Ap calculus again... ahaha I want all you Pro qualifier guys to come back in 5 years. I'll still be fishing my old (by then) Citica and Curado E's, my really old Citica and Curado D's, and my antique Curado B's, while your talking about the next "best" $100 reel. OK. My records show that I put my "most used" (so far) PQ in service on October 26, 2009. I just set a reminder in my scheduling program to go off on October 26, 2014. I'll give you a report then. I have saved the link to this thread and will capture a screen shot of this post as well and have it on file if for some reason this thread is not viewable in 2014. At present, I have 12 BPS BC reels: 2 ProLites, 2 Rick Clunns, 2 Carbonlites, and 6 PQs. Of those, the ProLites, Rick Clunns, and the low-ratio PQs are niche reels that will probably last a lifetime at their current service rates. What I will report back on is those PQs and Carbonlites that have seen relatively constant use. Regarding "use rates" - I fished about 300 days last year. So, is that typical for all anglers? If my PQ reels do show wear or become unserviceable - then did they give 5 years of service? Are my 5 years the same as other angler's 5 years. How about northern anglers that have hardwater for 4 months - they only fish for bass for 8 months (or less if they have closed seasons). Then, they may be working and only fish a few times a week. So their "year" of fishing may only be 60 days on the water. Something to think about. I keep relatively good fishing records, but I will NOT be able to tell you how many days that I fished each reel since I maintain a "catch" log - not a fishing day log. I WILL be able to tell you how many fish were caught on each reel, and using an average number of casts per fish (probably around 25 or so - have no records on this...but my waters are not continuously productive - I get skunked from time to time!) I will be able to give an estimate of the number of "cycles" (casts & retrieves). I would be able to state (if I wanted to crunch the numbers) the total weight of the fish caught with each reel (it would take some work - not just file sorting). Another metric I could generate would be the types of baits that were used for each reel - this would provide some measure of reel service as a bait worked with the rod tip like soft plastics probably presents less strain to the reel than cranking for instance. Those are some metrics that come to mind that would provide some evidence of the amount of "use" and resulting durability of the reel(s). As an example: The reel that I put in service on 10-26-09 (PQ#2) has so far caught only 171 fish. At the same rate, in another 3.5 years, it would have only caught a total of 641 fish. Perhaps 16,000 cycles? Who knows. Let's find out! In return, you can report on how many, or all, of your current ( by then old) reels are still in your possession and serviceable. See you in 2014... BTW - on old stuff (as I just posted in another thread) I sorta know how to keep gear in service. My "new" car is 23 years-old, my "old" car is 39 years-old. I fish 25 year-old reels, and still occasionally fish my 45 year-old gear. So, I'm somewhat familiar with using, and keeping older gear... Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I want all you Pro qualifier guys to come back in 5 years. I'll still be fishing my old (by then) Citica and Curado E's, my really old Citica and Curado D's, and my antique Curado B's, while your talking about the next "best" $100 reel. Hmm...I guess disposable reels are sexy. The most interesting thing is guys buying reels from companies that have a well established reputation for NOT supporting their reels in the aftermarket. There's some truth to that. Last time I called the BPS service center (Outdoor World Rod & Reel Repair) they did not have a good parts supply for the last generation ProLite, and still haven't got an initial stock of parts for the Carbonlite BC reels. Parts/repairs for those reels are possible with salvage reels. Shame on BPS - if they want to be mainstream - they need to reduce the number of BC reels they offer, and make sure they keep spares. However, parts for PQs ARE available and I expect will be for a long time. Since MANY of the parts on the PQ are interchangeable with a Revo - there's an alternative parts supply. BTW - I got a GREAT PQ parts deal last year. I bought EVERY single part on the reel for only $30........I bought a used reel on eBay.... ;D And that's another way to get parts... Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I work on over 300 reels per year. In just about ever way, Shimano and Daiwa reels are of a superior design and build quality, but you pay for that. You cannot compare an $80 BPS reel to a reel twice as much. A fair statement indeed. I promote the PQ as a value at it's price point. I have never said that it's a Curado. People ask for recommendations for an "inexpensive reel," an $80 reel, or a $100 reel and I recommend the PQ and always say wait for the sale. If someone asks about a $200 reel - you don't hear me recommending a PQ... : Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I can't disagree with anything JF has to say here. I think the fly in the ointment is the $100 budget limit. The best advice is to save up that extra $20-$50 and look for deals as in the example posted. If that just is not an option, you can probably get $75 worth of use out of a PQ if you treat it right, but you may go through two in the time a $120 reel would last. Then I'm in great shape - I have 6 PQs - my average cost for them is $64 so if I get $75 worth of use out of them then I've made money. NOW, I have two BPS Carbonlites with an average cost of $110 I guess those I'll have to be especially careful to get $110 worth of use out of them... ;D Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 Phew - I haven't been able to post in a few days so it took me a while to get caught up on this thread................. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 My recommendation of reels was based on the price point asked about as well. I recommended the Daiwa Exceler, Cabelas Prodigy and Quantum Accurist PT (older model) at the price point. All 3 of the reels either on sale or on the net can be had at that price point or lower. My Prodigy is going on 3 yrs old with no signs of wear at my last cleaning. My Exceler is going on 2 yrs of use but was purchased used so it is probably 3 yrs old and was only$50-60. My Accurist is going on 3-4 years old and was used off ebay as well. The Exceler impressed me enough to get the 7.1:1 model this year. I'm happy with all of them but I'm in IL so my fishing season isn't long as some other areas as well. As new reels are introduced in this price point of course technology improves and quality gets better. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I can't really offer advice on a $100 or less reel. I bought the older Cabela's Prodigy on sale for $60 and had it cleaned, lubed properly, ABEC5 bearings added and some polishing done. Was told it now feels like a $150-$200 reel. Regarding time spent on water, boy am I jealous of some people! I live in the Northeast. Nearest lake is about 30-35 minutes away. No boat. Fishing is very poor from where I have to fish from shore. It gets hammered by every other shore bound fisherman. There are a couple rivers much closer, but I've always fished lakes. Not fond of moving water. Only caught a few dink smallmouths in my local river. I'm lucky to average 3-4 days a month fishing. I dream of being able to fish almost every day. My reels will last a lifetime regardless of cost at my current rate of usage. Heck, they probably could go 3-4 years between cleaning intervals! I've never fished one reel for more than about an hour at a time, before switching to another combo with a different lure. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 Goose my friend I was starting to think I was the only one willing to draw the wrath of the the Posse. ;D I'm glad you're back. 8-) The ones I have get regular use, but compared to your numbers my PQ reels will likely last longer than I will. Only time will tell how they hold up long term. I am looking forward to your 2014 report. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 Goose my friend I was starting to think I was the only one willing to draw the wrath of the the Posse. ;D I got your back buddy! Yeah - I ended up with a perfect storm of several medical maladies and just couldn't type for a few days. (Although I was getting out everday and fishing for an hour or two and the casting was just tearing up my arm bad but some things are important, eh!). Anyway, went to the doc yesterday and got a big steroid shot, and taking meds, started feeling much better last night. Leaving in a few minutes for "session 1" fishing - will come home and relax, then hit the "lunker cove" this evening during session 2! Quote
BassThumb Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 It was 138.84 and free shipping, so I thought it was an OK deal. Great choice. You'll be glad you spent a little extra on the Curado. Quote
small_limit Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I want all you Pro qualifier guys to come back in 5 years. I'll still be fishing my old (by then) Citica and Curado E's, my really old Citica and Curado D's, and my antique Curado B's, while your talking about the next "best" $100 reel. Hmm...I guess disposable reels are sexy. The most interesting thing is guys buying reels from companies that have a well established reputation for NOT supporting their reels in the aftermarket. There's some truth to that. Last time I called the BPS service center (Outdoor World Rod & Reel Repair) they did not have a good parts supply for the last generation ProLite, and still haven't got an initial stock of parts for the Carbonlite BC reels. Parts/repairs for those reels are possible with salvage reels. Shame on BPS - if they want to be mainstream - they need to reduce the number of BC reels they offer, and make sure they keep spares. However, parts for PQs ARE available and I expect will be for a long time. Since MANY of the parts on the PQ are interchangeable with a Revo - there's an alternative parts supply. BTW - I got a GREAT PQ parts deal last year. I bought EVERY single part on the reel for only $30........I bought a used reel on eBay.... ;D And that's another way to get parts... For both the PQ and Carbonlite reels, you can get the same parts, albeit a bit more expensive, from ABU ... the STX and Premier parts (previous gen) fit in the PQ & CL reels. I have the winch gears and Revo Skeet handles on my ProQualifier Tournament edition reel. Quote
Robert Riley Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 I currently use the BPS RCX (the purple one ) it's the most expensive I've bought, $109. But it's served me well, I've never had any problems with it. But what i will say, is that it's the one I more or less learned on, so i cant easily point out faults I've learned over. But overall, it's a pretty good reel for the price. Quote
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