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I had an opportunity to fish with a G2 Dobyns rod in May and was "blown away", which was not easy to do since my fishing up to that point had been with Steez Compile-X, Loomis GLX, Megabass, Evergreen, etc. Since then I have purchased a 735C, DX702C, two DX784C rods and now deciding between a DX704C or DX744C.

My experience to date is that the G2 Dobyns rods "hold their own" in comparison with similar (length, power, action, etc.) 'high-end' rods that I own/used, but at a lower cost and great warranty/customer service.

Doc

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That seems funny to me, Natural, that you would say that. We have 1 dealer in Texas that has sold over $50,000 in rods at retail alone, and that doesn't count any of our other Texas dealers. Just because they have Dobyns in their signature doesn't mean the are on the prostaff but just supporting a rod they like or believe in. I am the prostaff director/coordinator for Dobyns Rods and I can assure you that we do not put just anyone on staff to sell rods, they have to meet certain qualifications to even be considered. Maybe you should meet up with one of them and try a rod out before making claims such as this on an open forum. This isn't the first such post that you've made. Thanks to the guys that have supported and commented on how well they like the rods!

Andy Caldwell

Yes...I've made this comment once before on another Dobyns thread. I'm pretty consistent. I'm just keeping it real, aka asking the tough questions. 'Tons of Pro-Staffers' is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Dobyns, whether I say it or not. I have no idea what Dobyns sales numbers are....but I do know a thread about Dobyns rods will have about 1 guy that has paid retail for a Generation 2 Dobyns....and then at least 5 or 6 staffers.

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That seems funny to me, Natural, that you would say that. We have 1 dealer in Texas that has sold over $50,000 in rods at retail alone, and that doesn't count any of our other Texas dealers. Just because they have Dobyns in their signature doesn't mean the are on the prostaff but just supporting a rod they like or believe in. I am the prostaff director/coordinator for Dobyns Rods and I can assure you that we do not put just anyone on staff to sell rods, they have to meet certain qualifications to even be considered. Maybe you should meet up with one of them and try a rod out before making claims such as this on an open forum. This isn't the first such post that you've made. Thanks to the guys that have supported and commented on how well they like the rods!

Andy Caldwell

Yes...I've made this comment once before on another Dobyns thread. I'm pretty consistent. I'm just keeping it real, aka asking the tough questions. 'Tons of Pro-Staffers' is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Dobyns, whether I say it or not. I have no idea what Dobyns sales numbers are....but I do know a thread about Dobyns rods will have about 1 guy that has paid retail for a Generation 2 Dobyns....and then at least 5 or 6 staffers.

There's 5 members in this thread alone that have purchased rods that are not on the staff (Not sure how RW got his rod or if he paid full price, so if he did that would make 6). There have been 2 staffers that have posted...

Clearly your statement is false. Not to mention there's not even 5 staffers that post on BR.

I'm by no means trying to start an argument, but there's no need to post any type of numbers up when they couldn't be further from the truth.

Posted

Like I said previously, our staff are hand picked for their promotional abilities, whether it's forums, trade shows or tournament weigh-ins. Your comment about "dozens on the texas fishing forum" is way off since there are less that 12 staffers in texas. Don't know what your agenda against us is, but maybe you would like to enlighten us? What is your rod of choice and are you "sponsored" by them or get a "deal" of any kind, or do you just pick a brand to badmouth when you get a chance?

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No disrespect to Dobyns rods, but there does seem to be alot more Dobyns  pro staffers posting on several of the other forums then any of the other rod companies.

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is there any difference in the balance of the split grip compared to the full cork.?

Posted
Like I said previously, our staff are hand picked for their promotional abilities, whether it's forums, trade shows or tournament weigh-ins. Your comment about "dozens on the texas fishing forum" is way off since there are less that 12 staffers in texas. Don't know what your agenda against us is, but maybe you would like to enlighten us? What is your rod of choice and are you "sponsored" by them or get a "deal" of any kind, or do you just pick a brand to badmouth when you get a chance?

I don't have an agenda, and I don't believe I 'bashed' Dobyns.   My post actually has nothing to do with the Dobyns product, which I honestly perceive to be good. Take Grandebass for example.   I love the Grandebass rattlesnake....and it has become one of my go-to baits. However, I would roll my eyes when all the Grandebass staffers flooded the Texas Fishing Forum  (I used past tense because Grandebass made it to the big-box retailers, and their message board staffers are scarce now). Persuader crankbaits on TFF (2 or 3 years ago) was probably the worst offender of all time...it was seriously  ridiculous.   Dobyns isn't worse than the aforementioned brands....maybe not as bad.  I just think too many pro-staff positions are handed out these days, and based on the wrong reasons (results versus post counts)

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Although there are a few members here that are on Dobyns staff, I have to say that the Gen 2 Dobyns Extreme rods are really nicely built.  So staffers post on these threads?  If there were pro staffers here for any other brand they'd probably do the same thing.

Kudos to the guys on staff that are helpful.  I wish there were more reps from other brands that did the same.  

Like Evergreen, Megabass...  ;D

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I agree with The Natural on this one. I am not a fan of someone who is a "pro-staffer" of any product that promotes their product unconditionally. What I really dislike is when someone asks about rod "A" & "B" and a "pro-staffer" says "You should get rod "C", which is the rod (or product) they are pushing and it was not even apart of what the guy is looking for. I like to hear from people who have nothing to gain by their good or bad reviews. Though, on the other hand, I do like having pro-staffers on these message boards who can answer specific questions about a product (e.g. Bantam1). I guess there is a fine line between the two.

Posted
I agree with The Natural on this one. I am not a fan of someone who is a "pro-staffer" of any product that promotes their product unconditionally. What I really dislike is when someone asks about rod "A" & "B" and a "pro-staffer" says "You should get rod "C", which is the rod (or product) they are pushing and it was not even apart of what the guy is looking for. I like to hear from people who have nothing to gain by their good or bad reviews. Though, on the other hand, I do like having pro-staffers on these message boards who can answer specific questions about a product (e.g. Bantam1). I guess there is a fine line between the two.

Lucky Craft man,  I am the prostaff manager for Lucky Craft.  Does that mean my opinion isn't valid because I am associated with Lucky Craft???   So if I say that unconditionally Lucky Craft has some of the best hard baits available would I be lying?? Many of us believe in the products that we use and promote and we are here to help others with any questions that they might have.  Most of us simply give input when a question is asked and that is what alot of the guys are doing here or correcting erronenous information...  We are product experts and often give information that alot of companies can't even give using their 1 800 # because we have on hands knowledge of the product.  We also offer customer service to a degree because of our close ties within the company.  It is simply our job to do these types of things.  Sure some staff guys are overbearing but there are alot of us out there that just want to help and give you good information to help you make a decision based on your needs.

Respectfully

Mike Bucca

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I agree with The Natural on this one. I am not a fan of someone who is a "pro-staffer" of any product that promotes their product unconditionally. What I really dislike is when someone asks about rod "A" & "B" and a "pro-staffer" says "You should get rod "C", which is the rod (or product) they are pushing and it was not even apart of what the guy is looking for. I like to hear from people who have nothing to gain by their good or bad reviews. Though, on the other hand, I do like having pro-staffers on these message boards who can answer specific questions about a product (e.g. Bantam1). I guess there is a fine line between the two.

Lucky Craft man, I am the prostaff manager for Lucky Craft. Does that mean my opinion isn't valid because I am associated with Lucky Craft??? So if I say that unconditionally Lucky Craft has some of the best hard baits available would I be lying?? Many of us believe in the products that we use and promote and we are here to help others with any questions that they might have. Most of us simply give input when a question is asked and that is what alot of the guys are doing here or correcting erronenous information... We are product experts and often give information that alot of companies can't even give using their 1 800 # because we have on hands knowledge of the product. We also offer customer service to a degree because of our close ties within the company. It is simply our job to do these types of things. Sure some staff guys are overbearing but there are alot of us out there that just want to help and give you good information to help you make a decision based on your needs.

Respectfully

Mike Bucca

I agree with you Mike, which is why I ended my last statement with "Though, on the other hand, I do like having pro-staffers on these message boards who can answer specific questions about a product."  It is the overbearing ones, which you mentioned, that rub me the wrong way.  It's kinda of like if you ask a Dodge Salesman what he thinks about Dodge vehicles.  You know he is going to say he likes them, but it is hard to decipher if that opinion is his passion for the product, which he works for, or if he is just telling you that because that is his livelihood.  When a pro-staffer gives you his/her opinion on how good their product is, it is hard to determine where his motivation is coming from.

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Posted

I've had a few instances where a guy will post A or B rods, and say he thinks he has it narrowed down. I've made a C suggestion, and in the end the poster has been very thankful and gone with C. If the rod is in the same price range, there's nothing wrong with a suggestion. Dobyns rods aren't as big in some states, and maybe the person has never heard of them.

I for one took a lot of advice from guys on here suggesting rods that were much too short, and too under powered for the fishing I needed to be doing. I spent a few thousand dollars on gear that was suggested to me, but very wrong for where I was fishing. I was new and didn't realize what I needed at the time. Now that I found out what has truly helped me, I love to try to help people in the same boat.

As for pro staffer motivation, MOST guys, and I say this because it's not always the case but definitely should be. MOST guys are on a staff because they truly believe in the product they are promoting. I  understand where guys come from, by not wanting to fully trust a pro staffers advice, but in general they're trying to help.

Posted

Brokeju thank's for your pm advice on the frog rod. Found a good deal on the 704C and 734CFH and ordered them . Going to try the 734CFH for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. How does it cast 3/8 oz ? The 704C is going to be 3/16-3/8 oz texas rigs in heavy cover.

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Arise o ye thread from the dead!

Eeets aliiiiveee!!

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