ChiCityBasser Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I've always had a perception that Quantum is a step down from the big name brands. I have barely used any though so it's probably marketing getting to me I think 1-2oz can make a big difference depending on the setup. With some rods I may even prefer a slightly heavier reel, but on my lightweight combos you can definitely feel a difference with a 7 vs 9 oz reel. Perception and big name brands ;D ;D Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 I've always had a perception that Quantum is a step down from the big name brands. I have barely used any though so it's probably marketing getting to me A step down but used by the all-time money winner on the Bassmaster Tournament trail, who has earned more than $5 million beginning 2011, captured four Bassmaster Classic titles (2001,2005, 2010, and 2011) and six Toyota Tundra Angler of Year titles (1992, 96, 99, 08, '09 and 10). He has earned berths in 21 consecutive Classics since he turned full-time pro in 1992, the longest running Classic qualification streak of any active pro. In 222 career Bassmaster events, he's won 20, finished second 11 times and landed in the top 10 an amazing 91 times! After all that, how does one have a perception that this tackle is in any way inferior to anything ? :-? A-Jay Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 my Daiwas Daddy can beat up your Quantums Daddy!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) Quote
breezy Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I've always had a perception that Quantum is a step down from the big name brands. I have barely used any though so it's probably marketing getting to me A step down but used by the all-time money winner on the Bassmaster Tournament trail, who has earned more than $5 million beginning 2011, captured four Bassmaster Classic titles (2001,2005, 2010, and 2011) and six Toyota Tundra Angler of Year titles (1992, 96, 99, 08, '09 and 10). He has earned berths in 21 consecutive Classics since he turned full-time pro in 1992, the longest running Classic qualification streak of any active pro. In 222 career Bassmaster events, he's won 20, finished second 11 times and landed in the top 10 an amazing 91 times! After all that, how does one have a perception that this tackle is in any way inferior to anything ? :-? A-Jay By no means was I trying to imply Quantum products were of an inferior quality. It was meant as a joke more than anything, hence the . Still, I would bet that if you were to poll a random selection of anglers the majority would rank Quantum below Shimano, Daiwa and (probably) Abu. Does that mean they truly are inferior? No, of course not. That's just an opinion and I have 0 data to back it up so who knows, I could be way off base. Maybe it is just the group of fishermen I'm around--I'm not sure. As far as KVD goes, I doubt Quantum products are the contributing factor to his success. I think you would see him performing the same if he used any other company's products. Who knows, maybe he could still dominate with an Ugly Stik...you may even see him fishing the Classic with one if they paid him enough ;D Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 Can only speak of the entry-level KVD BC reel that retails around $99... nothing but problems with that reel and nowhere near the quality of a Citica or PQ in that same price range. That reel was enough to push me away from the rest of their products. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I've always had a perception that Quantum is a step down from the big name brands. I have barely used any though so it's probably marketing getting to me A step down but used by the all-time money winner on the Bassmaster Tournament trail, who has earned more than $5 million beginning 2011, captured four Bassmaster Classic titles (2001,2005, 2010, and 2011) and six Toyota Tundra Angler of Year titles (1992, 96, 99, 08, '09 and 10). He has earned berths in 21 consecutive Classics since he turned full-time pro in 1992, the longest running Classic qualification streak of any active pro. In 222 career Bassmaster events, he's won 20, finished second 11 times and landed in the top 10 an amazing 91 times! After all that, how does one have a perception that this tackle is in any way inferior to anything ? :-? A-Jay By no means was I trying to imply Quantum products were of an inferior quality. It was meant as a joke more than anything, hence the . Still, I would bet that if you were to poll a random selection of anglers the majority would rank Quantum below Shimano, Daiwa and (probably) Abu. Does that mean they truly are inferior? No, of course not. That's just an opinion and I have 0 data to back it up so who knows, I could be way off base. Maybe it is just the group of fishermen I'm around--I'm not sure. As far as KVD goes, I doubt Quantum products are the contributing factor to his success. I think you would see him performing the same if he used any other company's products. Who knows, maybe he could still dominate with an Ugly Stik...you may even see him fishing the Classic with one if they paid him enough ;D Ok I can agree it was your opinion and if I were to answer or was part of that pole my Quantum ranks above my Shimano spinning reel. I have both and have fished both and I rank my Quantum's #1,my Diawa's #2 and my Shimano actually my last resort spinning reel. That is just my opinion from usage and doesn't mean it's inferior but not my preferred reel on the water. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Can only speak of the entry-level KVD BC reel that retails around $99... nothing but problems with that reel and nowhere near the quality of a Citica or PQ in that same price range. That reel was enough to push me away from the rest of their products. If this is the BPS exclusive BC Black model I agree that would push me away as well. I purchased one of the spinning models and as I said before it was a second choice to the Catalyst B I actually wanted but went cheaper. It spent a half a day out on the water before it was back at BPS with me getting the Catalyst B which is now 2 yrs old without a problem. Quote
breezy Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Ok I can agree it was your opinion and if I were to answer or was part of that pole my Quantum ranks above my Shimano spinning reel. I have both and have fished both and I rank my Quantum's #1,my Diawa's #2 and my Shimano actually my last resort spinning reel. That is just my opinion from usage and doesn't mean it's inferior but not my preferred reel on the water. Again I wasn't trying to say Quantum products are inferior, just that I felt many anglers perceived they are. IMO lots of reels anymore are very similar quality and the biggest factor comes down to personal opinion/preference. I think the results of a large scale poll regarding regarding brand preference would definitely be interesting. Wonder if it would be divided by region, tournament vs recreational fishing, age, etc? Edit- Funny it was brought up because I have had the chance to use that entry level KVD BC (it's black with red highlights) several times. I didn't think it was awful, maybe a little on the heavy side, but I would probably choose something else in that price range. Quote
mikeeasttn Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Last spring I was looking at a KVD Tour edition baitcaster with the 7:1-1 ratio at the local Pro Anglers Shop. While I was handling the reel one of the lcoal pro's told me do not buy it as it will not last. This put me off a bit but purchased reel and have used it since kast spring. No touble or issues with it so far. Have Shimanos and Daiwas but see little difference in them. Of course the Quantum was over $100 more expensive than Curados. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 I am one of the Shimano "snobs" , at least with casting reels, I am a Daiwa spinning reel guy. The only non-Shimano casting reels I will ever buy again will be Quantum's. Period. I have been using the older generation Accurist Pt's for a few years now, I also owned/used many many Daiwa's, and Revo's in this same time frame. I just didn't like the Daiwa's and sold them. And I am looking to replace the Revo's with Shimano's or Quantums before they crap the bed on me. I have 3 reel that were bought at exactly the same time, and have seen just about the same ammount of use over the last 4 years, all were close to each other in price. A Revo S-L, a Citica 201D, and an Accurist 501PT...........with little to no maint. other than a wipe down and some oil in the levelwind and spool bearings, the Shimano and Quantum still perform like new, the Revo...............pshhhhhhhh please, it's turning into a paper weight. Quote
Ima Bass Ninja Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Does anyone on the elites or FLW use KVDs stuff other than KVD? I don't think i've seen one other professional angler use his stuff. Quote
Super User flechero Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 I have no doubt KVD, or any pro for that matter, fishes with stock gear from their respective sponsors.But I'd be willing to bet they're not fishing with straight out of the box reels. I'm sure they've been stripped to the frame, lubed and the drags upgraded. With that much money on the line, a tournament is no place to find out your drag is sticky or your reel grinds. Is an upgraded, and tuned reel stock? :-? I can assure you (with 100% certainty) that many rods and reels used by pro's and spokes people are not what you see on the shelf. Quote
piscicidal Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I consider myself very inclusive when it comes to brands. I have reels from Abu, Shimano, Fin-Nor, Diawa, Quantum, all of which get a lot of use. And I take GOOD care of my stuff...I have a preventative maintenance schedule for my reels (sorry...I'm an engineer). I have approximately 30 baitcast reels in the rotation and the Quantum Accurist PTs are among the smoothest, most trouble free reels I have. My Accurists have not missed a day fishing in two years, while a couple other so-called "superior" reels sit on the IR waiting for parts. I bought a Quantum Smoke yesterday at BPS spring classic...$169 after trade-in. Pardon the pun, but holy smoke is this thing light... I think it is the smoothest, longest casting reel I have right now, and it's not even broken in yet. I've only fished with it a couple hours but I absolutely love this thing so far. Quote
Super User CWB Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 Have to agree with all who like the Accurist. Got 2 at BPS Spring Classic 2 years ago and no problems. One of the easiest and backlash free reels you can own. Haven't tried the newer models yet. As far as weight goes, I prefer balance over weight. If a reel is 1/2 or 1 oz. heavier but on a balanced outfit, you might notice it strictly by weight when comparing it to a lighter set-up. However, if you have a super light reel and your set-up is very tip heavy, you'll notice that right away. I balance all my set-ups with washers inside rubber chair bottoms, fastened to the rod butt with electrical tape. Quote
fathom Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 no bash here but, my suspicion is that the primary reason for kvd's success lies with the equipment buzzing between his ears...more so than those between his hands. Quote
Pa Angler Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Quantum Pro Staff http://www.quantumfishing.com/Pros/FreshwaterProStaff.aspx Tight Lines Pa Angler Quote
boneil Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I have no doubt KVD, or any pro for that matter, fishes with stock gear from their respective sponsors.But I'd be willing to bet they're not fishing with straight out of the box reels. I'm sure they've been stripped to the frame, lubed and the drags upgraded. With that much money on the line, a tournament is no place to find out your drag is sticky or your reel grinds. Is an upgraded, and tuned reel stock? :-? I can assure you (with 100% certainty) that many rods and reels used by pro's and spokes people are not what you see on the shelf. Since you're 100% certain, what type of differences are there between a pros rod and reel and store bought. I can see maybe changing out the bearings or drag washers, but what else can be done. And what can be done to the rod. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 3, 2011 Super User Posted March 3, 2011 Well I know of at least 3 Elite series pros who use, stock off the shelf, out of the box.............what ever...................stuff. Heck I have better stuff than 2 of those 3 guys, and I have some of the 3rd guys used stuff. This notion that just because they are pros, they all have super cool stuff you and I can't get is total BS, some guys do probably, but not the majority. It's a just a myth conjured up by people who want to hear there own voice. Quote
bpNClgmouth Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I agree that alot of the Quantum gear has vastly improved over the years. I'm strictly a quantum user and I love how they've progressed. I recently added a smoke pt and another energy pt to my lineup and couldn't be happier. BTW, listening to G.Swindle and some of the other guys using Quantum they also agree that Quantum is getting better and better...yes they are sponsored, but when it comes to their newer lineups (Smoke, etc.), they aren't afraid to tell you how much they love it. Quote
Mr SwimJig Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I have always used either Shimano or Daiwa and lately been using the newer Revos reels. But when I saw the new SMOKE reel I new I had to try one out. I picked up one at the BPS reel trade in and so far I am very impressed with the build quality and feel of the reel. I also picked up an Energy spinning reel and it feels extremely solid and about the same weight wise as my Saros and Soron STX spinning reels. Get to try them out this weekend and will post results back after the weekend. SJ Quote
Nice_Bass Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Can only speak of the entry-level KVD BC reel that retails around $99... nothing but problems with that reel and nowhere near the quality of a Citica or PQ in that same price range. That reel was enough to push me away from the rest of their products. My exact experience, and one I will not replicate. I own rods and reels of all brands-but I don't even pick up anything quantum any longer...i am sure the reels are just fine though- but in my mind they wont be anytime soon. Quote
Pantera61 Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Well I know of at least 3 Elite series pros who use, stock off the shelf, out of the box.............what ever...................stuff. Heck I have better stuff than 2 of those 3 guys, and I have some of the 3rd guys used stuff. This notion that just because they are pros, they all have super cool stuff you and I can't get is total BS, some guys do probably, but not the majority. It's a just a myth conjured up by people who want to hear there own voice. I'm in partial agreement with you here for one major reason, it would be too hard to replicate custom tackle for the entire season in the event of extreme wear or breakdown. Pros may ask for things like different gear ratios on reels or similar modifications but what else are they going to ask for? Aluminum instead of graphite or vice versa? Additional bearings? The exceptions would be prototype tackle being tested for market or JDM tackle through Shimano, Daiwa, Megabass, Pure Fishing, etc. That might not be available to the general fishing public. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 3, 2011 Super User Posted March 3, 2011 In my three years of experience I've been impressed with Quantum. I have five of their Xtralight rods and have absolutely loved them for UL fishing. I recently just got a PT Smoke and am loving it as well. For the let two years I habeas mainly fished the blue Okuma Aluminas and really really love those. I like the weight on the Aluminas. Personally I prefer a heavier reel to the lightweight ones. I'm just more comfortable with them. However, this smoke reel is starting ti change my mind about the lighter weight reels on the market today. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Quantum Pro Staffhttp://www.quantumfishing.com/Pros/FreshwaterProStaff.aspx Tight Lines Pa Angler Nice Pro Staff Quote
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