Loomis24 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I just picked up some Seaguar Red Label flouro last night at my local BPS. I have never used seaguar before and with the price i thought that i would give the red label a try. I bought some invizx 8lb for my spinning reel. I bought some 12lb and 20lb red label for my baitcasters. Has anyone used this line and was it good or is there a reason why it so cheap?? Reviews on BPS website are mixed, just like to get a few more reviews and decide if i want to take it back or but it on my baitcasters. Thanks for the help Quote
rubba bubba Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I use it. It's very comparable to Bpro's XPS fluoro. It's cheap because it was one of the earliest Seaguar's fluoro so it's been out for a while. They have other types for different price-points. Quote
Quillback Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I've been using Invisix for my spinning reels this year for fishing suspending jerkbaits. I have no complaints, and I like the relatively thin diameter. Can't speak for the red label. Quote
Loomis24 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 I was told Seaguar makes BPS XPS line??? Anyone know any truth to that? Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted February 27, 2011 Global Moderator Posted February 27, 2011 I was told the same by the staff at bps just yesterday! Mike Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 27, 2011 Super User Posted February 27, 2011 It isn't bad line at all. I stiff fish it on a couple rods. If I'm fishing a lake where I know I'm going to be chewing through a lot of line, like fishing a lot of reed beds and cattails, I'll fish the Red Label. I've heard it is produced at the same facility as Seaguar to BPS spec, as well. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted February 28, 2011 Super User Posted February 28, 2011 I was told Seaguar makes BPS XPS line??? Anyone know any truth to that? I believe they (seaguar) make Cabela's FC line and that the BPS line was Toray's? Someone can confirm or correct. As an invizx user I have tried the cabela's fc line and it is so similar to cabela's that it makes me inclined to think this. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 28, 2011 Super User Posted February 28, 2011 I was told Seaguar makes BPS XPS line??? Anyone know any truth to that? I believe they (seaguar) make Cabela's FC line and that the BPS line was Toray's? Someone can confirm or correct. As an invizx user I have tried the cabela's fc line and it is so similar to cabela's that it makes me inclined to think this. You're right. It's Toray that makes BPS and Seaguar makes Cabela's. I'll talk to the rep tomorrow and double check, but now that you say it, it spurs my memory. Quote
JacobK Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 just because it's made from the same place doesn't mean it's the same formula. hostess may use the same factory for twinkies and ho-hos but the end product is different. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 28, 2011 Super User Posted February 28, 2011 Cabelas is Seguar. I was also told that it is almost the exact same formulation as Invizx, so much so that the packaging type is essentially the same: Seaquar INVIZX Fluorocarbon Fishing Line The softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! INVIZX can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. Made from 100% exclusive Seaguar resins. Cabela's® No-Vis Xtra Fluorocarbon Our No-Vis Xtra is the softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! This line can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot-strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. Quote
Simp Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Cabelas is Seguar. I was also told that it is almost the exact same formulation as Invizx, so much so that the packaging type is essentially the same:Seaquar INVIZX Fluorocarbon Fishing Line The softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! INVIZX can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. Made from 100% exclusive Seaguar resins. Cabela's® No-Vis Xtra Fluorocarbon Our No-Vis Xtra is the softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! This line can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot-strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. I can tell you with certainty that no vis and invizx is not the same line. I'm a big Seagur fan when it comes to Fluro. He's what my experience has been of the three lines in question. Invizx- My favorite fluro because it just so managable and it's held up well for me. I haven't broken off many times at all. (I had some issues with Trilene fluro). The downside is it does have some strech compared to other Fluro's but I adapted a feel for it. NoVis- This is what I buy in larger spools. It's got a great price point and it a good all around line. It's stiffer then invizx and less managable but it has allot less stretch. I usually use it in the 20lb size on my flipping stick. I also use 6 and 8# for leader material on my spinning gear. I prefer braid on a spinning rod so I use leaders. Red Label- Honestly the worst fluro I ever bought. I bought some 17# for my flipping gear and it was way to stiff. I could never get it to sit right on the real even after some KVD treatment. I'd rather and did at times use vanish instead of this stuff. I've said before and I'll say it again maybe I got a bad spool, but the experience was bad enough I'll never buy it again. My suggestion for fluro is this. Invizx is great for casting and spinning gear. So if you got the cash put it on spinning and the rods you throw reaction baits. It just sits on the real so much better. No vis is a great for flipping and because less stretch is better for jigs,worms,ect. It can also be had from Cabales on sale often at a incredible price. Red Label just means STOP!!! Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted March 1, 2011 Super User Posted March 1, 2011 I like the whole line up of lines from Seaguar! I did try the Red Label on spinning gear last year and I did like it! The other lines cost more and I found that they work better. But nothing wrong with the Red Label.I have fished alot of lines that were alot worse than Red label!!!!! Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted March 2, 2011 Super User Posted March 2, 2011 Cabelas is Seguar. I was also told that it is almost the exact same formulation as Invizx, so much so that the packaging type is essentially the same:Seaquar INVIZX Fluorocarbon Fishing Line The softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! INVIZX can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. Made from 100% exclusive Seaguar resins. Cabela's® No-Vis Xtra Fluorocarbon Our No-Vis Xtra is the softest, most supple fluorocarbon line ever produced! This line can be used on casting or spinning reels in freshwater with good hooksetting power, exceptional abrasion resistance and knot-strength, and it's nearly invisible to fish. I can tell you with certainty that no vis and invizx is not the same line. I'm a big Seagur fan when it comes to Fluro. He's what my experience has been of the three lines in question. Huh, I was told in no uncertain terms that the lines are chemically identical; there's a difference in the winding process between the two and not much more. Quote
krisjack69 Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Anyone tried Triple Fish Clear Fluorocarbon.It's only 6.99 over at Gander Mountain website.I had heard it was good but not sure tho since I never myself used it.I had a fish break off last week using Berkley 100 percent.I guess there commercial is wrong lol. Quote
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