BucketmouthSC Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Just purchased fluorocarbon for the first time. Which knot is best to use? Will the usual "twist/cinch" work? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 15, 2011 Super User Posted February 15, 2011 16-20 Knot (also known as a Pitzen or Duncan Knot) http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 15, 2011 Super User Posted February 15, 2011 I wouldn't use a cinch knot, but I know guys that do. I like the Palomar or Uni knot. Quote
central.PA.bass Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I either use the clinch knot or the improved clinch.. both work well.. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted February 15, 2011 Super User Posted February 15, 2011 16-20 Knot (also known as a Pitzen or Duncan Knot)http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12 X2 This is the only knot that I use for any line and any bait except drop shot. Quote
WanderLust Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Berkley Braid Knot works well with any line. Its not pretty but is very strong. Quote
Ima Bass Ninja Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 Palomar has always worked well for me. Reverse clinch has been my new go to without any problems so far but i haven't been able to try it a whole bunch. Quote
Hamby Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 I tie palomars initially, but if i'm on the water and need to retie quickly then i'll tie the one roadwarrior posted. For mono, i only use the one RW posted. For braid and fluoro, i only tie it if i need to retie quickly, and when i have time i'll usually cut it and retie a palomar. Quote
Super User eyedabassman Posted February 16, 2011 Super User Posted February 16, 2011 Palomar or San Diego Jam I will second that! Quote
TBendBassin Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Palomar or San Diego Jam X2 although I don't use the palomar on smaller flourocarbons like 12lb or less. And i really like the reverse clinch knot( San Diego jam same thing) Quote
WanderLust Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Berkley Braid knot is tough for sure. I had better luck with this one than any other "super knot". Quote
Super User South FLA Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 Berkley Braid knot is tough for sure. I had better luck with this one than any other "super knot". I was a palomar fan, but lately for some reason my knots were coming through the hook eye gap, so I switched to the bulker braid knot with good results. Quote
WanderLust Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Berkley Braid knot is tough for sure. I had better luck with this one than any other "super knot". I was a palomar fan, but lately for some reason my knots were coming through the hook eye gap, so I switched to the bulker braid knot with good results. Palomar is awesome but I also had issues. I started using this when I read that it works on every line type. Ugly knot but great results. Quote
Fish Chris Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 An ugly knot ??? That would just go against my whole philosphy on knots. I'd tie it like 20 X's. trying to make it look clean, and pretty, and if I couldn't manage that, I'd eventually just give up and tie a different knot. So, if this is an inherantly ugly knot, how do you know when you have tied it correctly ? Just curious. But actually, when it comes to knots, I use the improved clinch, the palomar, and the blood knot > and they never fail (as long as they cinch down clean, and pretty, and if not, I retie them until they do). So why change anything ? Peace, Fish Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 So why change anything ? Exactly, once you have YOUR knots down pat, that you know will hold just by the way they cinched down, the way they look and feel, stick with them. Getting there takes practice. I actually haven't seen any advice here I'd ignore, but I do have knots that failed for me. Practice tying, figure out what works. My avatar was caught on 6# fluoro, using a Palomar. Fluoro will separate the men from the boys when it comes to knot tying. Braid, eh not so much. As long as it doesn't slip or come through the eye, its probably fine. Quote
WanderLust Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Interesting points guys. The berkley braid knot lacks the refinement of say a palomar so I call it ugly. It has two tag ends and is bulkier than other knots. I started using this after improved clinch and palomar failed me. Practice makes perfect. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 You use that knot with fluoro? Quote
Super User South FLA Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 You use that knot with fluoro? If the flouro is too large in diameter it is near impossible to tie a berkley braid knot, so palomar knot it is, usually you don't have to worry about flouro slipping out of hook eye with thicker flouro. As far as braid is concerned I get a nice neat barrel when I take my time cinching down the knot using the Berkley braid knot. Its really not that ugly with braid. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 And I thought the original question was about fluoro.... Just purchased fluorocarbon for the first time. Which knot is best to use? Will the usual "twist/cinch" work? Quote
WanderLust Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 You use that knot with fluoro? LOL - Yeah, I was a nub. The only knots I used were improved clinch, palomar and uni. Although now that I have more experience it would be less of a problem. I use the Berkley Braid Knot for most applications especially light braid. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted February 17, 2011 Super User Posted February 17, 2011 J Francho hinted at the right answer for this question. It gets asked a lot, and always has every knot mentioned in the replies. Tie the knot YOU tie best. And, cut it off and do it again if it doesn't look or feel right. Quote
A-Rob Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 uni knot for lines that cinch down (0-17#) palomar for line that wont cinch (20# and up) Shaw Grigsby shows a good way to cinch down the Palomar so you don't burn your fluoro and weaken it. Quote
Steve1357 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 x2 Trilene knot. (old clinch knot, but two passes through eye) Go outside and try different knots on a tree limb and see what you like) Quote
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