Fat-G Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I had to make an emergency run to Dick's to pick up a spool of mono for a trip this weekend with my buddy. The only thing they had that wasn't flouro or CXX was a 900 yd. spool of Big Game, so I picked it up along with a spool of 6# CXX for my spinning rod. I hate the line twist that mono brings to the table, but it really is way better for reaction baits. The Big Game will convert to a backing spool when I get my hands on some Yo-Zuri. I will admit it casts SO much more smoothly and effortlessly than braid. Quote
Ern Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Three things I found that help with the line twist on spinning reels. 1) Follow the reels instruction on spooling it. Just dont flop down the spool. My shimanos said spool similar to a baitcaster. When I started doing this the twist ended. 2) Make sure the line roller is rolling. If it doesn't it will twist line. 3) Close the bail manually. Makes a huge difference in the twist problem. Some lures are prone to twisting line. Nature of the beast. Plastics, when reeling in to recast, tend to spin for me more that other baits, even more than most inline spinners. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 If you count all anglers, not just the enthusiasts that participate in discussion forums, I think there are probably still about twice as many folks that use mono as compared to those that use flouro or braid combined. Just a guess... It still works - it's just not the "ideal" solution for many techniques given the new lines available. The question each angler has to ask is if the number of additional fish put in the boat with the "optimum" line, to them, warrants the sometime significant additional cost... On Big Game - if Catt sees this thread, he might have an opinion to share! Quote
Super User deep Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I hate the line twist that mono brings to the table, but it really is way better for reaction baits. The Big Game will convert to a backing spool when I get my hands on some Yo-Zuri. I will admit it casts SO much more smoothly and effortlessly than braid. As has been mentioned, spool properly and use KVD L&L. No line twist. Ever. Big Game is too good a line to use as backing. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's bad. Which braids and what diameter have you been using? Small diameter, smooth round braids like Samurai cast especially well on spinning reels due to the lack of memory and (lack of) line twist. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 Conditioning the line will not prevent line twist, it will make the line limper and less likely to coil, so does hot water. Once your line is spooled troll it out before fishing, then use a use a ball bearing swivel, line twist no more. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 26, 2011 Author Posted February 26, 2011 Conditioning the line will not prevent line twist, it will make the line limper and less likely to coil, so does hot water. Once your line is spooled troll it out before fishing, then use a use a ball bearing swivel, line twist no more. Yeah whenever I use mono or copoly I go out back and stick a hook in the fence, walk about 50 yds. away and pull to straighten out the line. Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 26, 2011 Super User Posted February 26, 2011 I 've been fishing with Big Game for about 2 decades, it 's still the line I fish with the most, I do use CXX, Hybrid, Power Pro, XT, XL but none even comes close to the time I fish with and number of reels I have spooled with Big Game. Quote
Stasher1 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 As has been mentioned, spool properly and use KVD L&L. No line twist. Ever.Big Game is too good a line to use as backing. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's bad. Which braids and what diameter have you been using? Small diameter, smooth round braids like Samurai cast especially well on spinning reels due to the lack of memory and (lack of) line twist. True, but it is cheaper than many of the other readily available mono lines out there. To me, that alone is enough of a reason to use it as backing. Quote
Super User South FLA Posted February 27, 2011 Super User Posted February 27, 2011 Sir Snook Alot NAILED IT, if you can troll line behind your boat and let the water's drag work its magic there is no better LIMP maker. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 27, 2011 Super User Posted February 27, 2011 Do not overfill the spinning reel spool. As stated above, use pure silicone or KVD L&L when spooling and spray the line on the spool a few times when spooling. Always close bail with your hand. Run line through your fingers when reeling in to help make it tight and avoid twisting. If the line pops off the spinning reel, loosen the drag; keep the bail closed, and pull the line off the spool. After getting the twist and knot out you can tighten the drag and then respool the line back on the spinning reel. Pro's trick. Line twist is just part of fishing with a spinning rig and the baits you throw. Quote
Pa Angler Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I still hate braid... I love braid it's all I use. Tight Lines Pa Angler Quote
Pa Angler Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I don't use mono if I had to I would use McCoy"s Co-Polymer line instead. Tight Lines Pa Angler Quote
Fat-G Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 WOW! I got out to a neighborhood pond today with the spinning rig spooled with the 6# CXX. I REALLY like that line in the 6# test. It handled extremely well, way better than Hybrid 6#, and had a lot less stretch. I caught about a handful of dinks on a t-rigged Baby Rage Craw with an 1/8 oz. tungsten weight. The only downside was the rod, my 6'8 Tec Spec. I love the feel and sensitivity, but the handle is way too long. Oh well, I'm getting a new spinning rod next, no big deal. I would HIGHLY recommend the 6# P-Line CXX for a spinning rod. I just replaced Hybrid for sure. Now we just have to see if it gets coily in the long run, which it probably will. Quote
Steve1357 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 <was a 900 yd. spool of Big Game> What do you need 15# mono for? Then again, I use 20# from time to time, it's not that supple, but isn't twisted if put on properly. With that said, I hate putting line on spinning reels, I use a drill now and chuck up the reel spool and manually install the line the same way you do on a baitcaster. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 27, 2011 Super User Posted February 27, 2011 Go with a good quality fluorocarbon. See if you can do well with it in place of the mono. Experiment. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 <was a 900 yd. spool of Big Game>What do you need 15# mono for? Then again, I use 20# from time to time, it's not that supple, but isn't twisted if put on properly. With that said, I hate putting line on spinning reels, I use a drill now and chuck up the reel spool and manually install the line the same way you do on a baitcaster. You mean that's too heavy? If I didn't have 50# PowerPro on my jig rod it would be 20#-25# flouro or copoly. I fish my jigs where no jig should go. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Go with a good quality fluorocarbon.See if you can do well with it in place of the mono. Experiment. The rig I have the Big Game on is for spinnerbaits and lipless cranks. I will get a spool of copoly for it sooner or later. I use braid on my contact bait rigs, and will try some flouro as a leader this year. Quote
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