TimJ Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I have been using one brand of braid without problems except that it loses colour and gets "whiter". I use a green marker to colour it again but I figure I shouldn't have to. Many types of braided lines are discussed here and I'm wondering which keep their colour. I was thinking of setting up with power pro 50 or 65 and would like to know about that too. thanks Tim J Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted February 24, 2011 Super User Posted February 24, 2011 All superlines loose their color, some just faster than others. The material the line is made of will not absord colors so the color is just a coating. The line I have used that holds the color longest is the former Stren Superbraid. The Daiwa Samurai seems to hold its color a relatively long time also, I have some on a couple of reels that is over 3 years old and stlll has most of its color. Quote
steezy Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 All superlines loose their color, some just faster than others. The material the line is made of will not absord colors so the color is just a coating.The line I have used that holds the color longest is the former Stren Superbraid. The Daiwa Samurai seems to hold its color a relatively long time also, I have some on a couple of reels that is over 3 years old and stlll has most of its color. The Daiwa Samurai will hold the color, is soft and quite moving through the guides. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 24, 2011 Super User Posted February 24, 2011 Here is 2 year old 15# Power Pro in red, treated with KVD L&L. Next to it is 20# Power Pro in green that is one season old, also treated. I don't know why more don't use the stuff. Its one of those things that actually lives up to the hype. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I totally agree with Francho. It just makes your combo so much more sensitive, and you get no-doubt hooksets, every time. Quote
MMan16 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I've been using Fireline 50# for a couple seasons now and it seems to hold color pretty well. It did loss some color the first time out but the rest of the time its been just as green as after that initial color loss. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 24, 2011 Super User Posted February 24, 2011 I totally agree with Francho. It just makes your combo so much more sensitive, and you get no-doubt hooksets, every time. I was talking about the line conditioner, as it related to the original question. 8-) Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 24, 2011 Super User Posted February 24, 2011 My freshwater braid is all pale green, it's all old but the color or lack of doesn't bother me. My saltwater braid, same brand, retains color longer, could be I change it more often. Quote
HookSetDon Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Actually I was just at a fishing show that spoke about this exact problem, here who has the solution, i cast 2010 winner Suffix 832 with gore fibers, its a round line with 32 weaves per inch specifically designed for the fading colours that typical braided lines have, apparently this one WONT fade over use. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 Suffix 832 has 7 strands of Dyneema plus 1 strand of GORE Performance Fiber. That makes 1/8 of the line that won't fade. That is called marketing to the gullible. Quote
piscicidal Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Actually I was just at a fishing show that spoke about this exact problem, here who has the solution, i cast 2010 winner Suffix 832 with gore fibers, its a round line with 32 weaves per inch specifically designed for the fading colours that typical braided lines have, apparently this one WONT fade over use. I've been using 832 exclusively this year on my braided rigs, and it DOES fade. It's some good stuff, though. Quote
HookSetDon Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 just passing on what i heard at the spring fishing show, i didnt have any experience using it myself , thanks for the heads up tho... i use power pro green myself and ill run a sharpie marker at it, about a foot or so when it starts to fade Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 The Diawa Samurai will fade, but very little. I use it in the both FW, and salt. My line is about a year old. When it gets wet, it is obviously darker, but when dry, it looks about 2 to 3 shade lighter. Quote
baluga Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I tried the Daiwa Samurai and use it in saltwater, the color bleeds and stained the cork handle on my phenix rod on the first day of use. It is so bad I have to switch rod to Cumara rod since the cumara has that black EVA foam, at least the stain would not show. Quote
A-Rob Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I've always wondered why we use dark lures in dirty water b/c they cast a better silhouette and the bass can see it....yet we want our line to be less visible to the fish...so we want it to stay dark green? I would prefer my dark green braid to fade a bit, I don't mind that. A white silhouette is tougher for a fish to see as it floats above them compared to a black. Anyone got an explanation?? p.s. not all vegetation is dark green, it has different shades, so a lighter green line is still camouflaged to the vegetation Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 Anyone got an explanation?? The same person could probably also explain why red line disappears, but red hooks attract. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted February 25, 2011 Super User Posted February 25, 2011 I've always wondered why we use dark lures in dirty water b/c they cast a better silhouette and the bass can see it....yet we want our line to be less visible to the fish...so we want it to stay dark green? I would prefer my dark green braid to fade a bit, I don't mind that. A white silhouette is tougher for a fish to see as it floats above them compared to a black. Anyone got an explanation?? p.s. not all vegetation is dark green, it has different shades, so a lighter green line is still camouflaged to the vegetation Well done Grasshopper. Quote
A-Rob Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Anyone got an explanation?? The same person could probably also explain why red line disappears, but red hooks attract. haha good point Quote
Georgia Jeff Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 both good points. Power pro will fade over a years period of time to be a pretty light green/whitish color. I just unspool, turn it around, retie it to my backing (mono) line and spool it back on. Quote
A-Rob Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 both good points. Power pro will fade over a years period of time to be a pretty light green/whitish color. I just unspool, turn it around, retie it to my backing (mono) line and spool it back on. Thats a nice benefit of braid, I do that as well. Quote
TimJ Posted February 26, 2011 Author Posted February 26, 2011 lots of good points/thoughts here. thanks to all. Adam, I don't mind lighter green, it's just that my braid lost colour in the first couple of weeks or so, to a grey/whiter colour. saw your avitar...I have fished Georgian Bay in the past (Midland, Penetang) in the old OV/Pro Bass days. how is the Waubaushene area, back near the hydro towers? and Vic harbour? TJ Quote
The Guy Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I have been using the 832 for a couple weeks. It seems to be fading fairly quickly. Quote
Ern Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 : I feel left out. Tying , cutting, changing lures,and retying. I never get to see the fade to white. :-/ Quote
YeahSure Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 All superlines loose their color, some just faster than others. The material the line is made of will not absord colors so the color is just a coating.The line I have used that holds the color longest is the former Stren Superbraid. The Daiwa Samurai seems to hold its color a relatively long time also, I have some on a couple of reels that is over 3 years old and stlll has most of its color. The Daiwa Samurai will hold the color, is soft and quite moving through the guides. I do not know what Wayne and Steezy are talking about but the Samurai braid does NOT hold its color well at all, I've had it on 3 different combos 20 55 and 70 and they all lose Color very very very fast and what makes it worse is it usually soaks into my silver reels/cork and its a pain in the arse sometimes impossible to get it to come off. Power pro on the other hand has not changed color at all. Quote
BassThumb Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Braided line fibers are very difficult to dye, so some fading is inevitable. I haven't seen a braid yet that won't fade over time if left untreated, and even that only slows the process. KVD L&L works well, and I think Ardent Line Butter may even work a little better, if you can stand using that oily stuff. I will still use a black Sharpie if the line gets too silvery, or else just reel it onto another reel to reverse it. Once both ends are faded, the line is then used as backing. Braided line makes a first rate backing as it is lighter than other lines and packs down very tightly. I have noticed that braided line seems to hold it's color longer on spinning gear than with casting gear. That could be because spinning gear casts the line with less friction, or because casting gear is generally used when you're fishing areas with heavier, more abrasive cover. Quote
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