central.PA.bass Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 My local tackle shop has a Stella on sale for I believe $399.. I dont know how many there are or if this is even a good deal.. anyone have any input? Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 10, 2011 Super User Posted February 10, 2011 Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal. I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held. Ronnie Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted February 10, 2011 Super User Posted February 10, 2011 X2. I don't own one, but have fished with rw's and that is one sweet reel. Really much better than my setup, but I don't have the extra to spring for it over my stradic. Jeff Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted February 10, 2011 Super User Posted February 10, 2011 An excellent deal . How many did you buy ? Quote
jeb2 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I would guess that's the FD model. Lots of places are closing them out at about that price point. The FD is still a great reel. The updates to the FE don't seem that big of a deal on paper to me. If that's the price on a FE, jump on it with both feet! Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 10, 2011 Super User Posted February 10, 2011 For 400 beans, Stella better bring her sisters with her and make a party out of it... Quote
central.PA.bass Posted February 10, 2011 Author Posted February 10, 2011 haha.. I don't have 400 to dish out.. I was just wonderin if it was a good deal.. I can look more into it but if anyone is interested let me know.. I can pick it up for whoever wants it.. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal.I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held. Ronnie I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters. The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D Quote
jignfule Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 If I could get a new FE for $399 I'd sprint back to the store. For an FD, I probably still get it. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway. Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal.I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held. Ronnie I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters. The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D I don't have a Symeter, but I have 2 Stradics and a Twin Power (JDM version of the Sustain) and it's the difference between driving a Buick and a Ferrari, the Buick runs good, will take you anywhere you want to go, etc. but if you could choose any car you wanted, which would it be? The light weight, amazing fit and finish, perfectly machined parts and flawless performance are what make the Stella "stellar. If I had the $, I would own at least one in every size. IMHO Ronnie Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway. That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO Ronnie Quote
northern basser Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 For 400 beans, Stella better bring her sisters with her and make a party out of it... ;D Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway. That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO Ronnie The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree. Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers. The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 Thanks for your response, Alpster. Mayby some day for the right price, I'll pick one up. I agree they do look nice. Quote
Crabcakes Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters. The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D If you really want to know about the reel read this. This is the Stella SW but it will give you an idea. Technical read but it is worth the education. http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=647666 (I checked the FAQ and don't think it is in violation of the rules to post this link since it is non promotional. Please remove if I am mistaken.) Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway. That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO Ronnie The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree. Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers. The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price. I don't disagree with you. I wish everything were guaranteed forever. My point was that just because it's expensive doesn't mean it "should' be guaranteed forever. That's not the standard in the marketplace. I wish that it were so. All decent Fly reel makers, including as you point out, Ross & Tibor have a lifetime warranty, I believe because they only have a few moving parts. I have an Able & several Orvis reels that are warranted for life. BTW, according to their website "ZeeBass" reels only have a 1 year warranty. Ronnie Quote
steezy Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway. That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO Ronnie The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree. Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers. The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price. SirSnookalot, I also get upset about the lack of a decent warranty on expensive reels. I don't want to start a warranty debate but it ticks me off when I pay $400+ for a Steez baitcaster and $500+ for a Steez spinning reel and it only comes with a 1 yr warranty. Both Diawa and Shimano should be ashamed of the lack of warranty on their high end reels. Tibor only makes high end reels so I guess they think the person that can afford that reel will not abuse it. The Zeebass warranty covers the reel but not the drag washers which is still a good deal, like a car warranty that doesn't cover the tires. However, for some companies its not about price. Ross provides the same lifetime warranty for all their fly reels no matter if its the $100 or $500 reel. I commend Ross for that. I can only assume that both Daiwa and Shimano provide warranties based upon general usage and service history for the majority of the models of reels they sell and don't want the headache of tracking seperate warranties for certain models of reels. I guess the upscale market is just to small and the marketing people love it but the bean counters don't get it. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted February 11, 2011 Super User Posted February 11, 2011 Steezy it must not tick you off much paying those prices for Steez gear. You must feel there is value there or you would buy something else. If Shimano can sell Stella reels for $700 with whatever warranty they have, then that is what they will do. Ultimately the consumer sets the price. On the other side of the coin is the warranty GLoomis used to have on their rods. When it began to cut into profits, they changed the deal. I am guessing the people who like their rods are still buying them. My point is we all make value judgements when it comes to tackle. I would not pay that kind of money for a reel even with a lifetime warranty. I'd probably kick it off my boat the first trip out. : Quote
steezy Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Steezy it must not tick you off much paying those prices for Steez gear. You must feel there is value there or you would buy something else. If Shimano can sell Stella reels for $700 with whatever warranty they have, then that is what they will do. Ultimately the consumer sets the price. On the other side of the coin is the warranty GLoomis used to have on their rods. When it began to cut into profits, they changed the deal. I am guessing the people who like their rods are still buying them. My point is we all make value judgements when it comes to tackle. I would not pay that kind of money for a reel even with a lifetime warranty. I'd probably kick it off my boat the first trip out. : I buy my reels more because I like them regardless of the price. If I find a baitcast reel I like better then I will but it but until then I'll keep buying the Steez. I don't think there are very many great values in anything anymore. No one takes any pride in what they produce. Supply and Demand will always dictate price regardless of the product, its features or warranty. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 There is an oriental gentleman that comes out to the jettie all the time, always with loomis, stella, sustain and yesterday a caluctta( haven't seen him catch a fish in 5 years, but he tries). I switched outfits with him and started to cast, haven't touched a b/c in 35 years, just like riding a bike not one backlash. Not that I would ever buy one, prefer spinning, but that reel was very very sweet. Quote
Iowa Matt Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Bought this one in December and can't wait to try it out when the ice melts! I have used Sustains for several years and been very pleased with them. I am certain that this one will be no different. I really prefer the look of the D model to that of the new E model and got this for $380 on closeout. Seems like I am about the only bass fisherman that likes the 1000 size more than the 2000, 2500, 3000 sizes and many times that means that I can find some good deals. Matt Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 19, 2011 Super User Posted February 19, 2011 Hmm... 1000FA, 2500FD and 2500FE Perfect in every way. No "lifetime warranty" does not mean that Shimano will not address a problem. I have found their customer service to be exceptional. Our ole friend, Dan Thornberg is a designer and head of Customer Service. If you have an issue with Shimano, contact him direct...Dan answers the phone! 8-) Quote
steezy Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Bought this one in December and can't wait to try it out when the ice melts! I have used Sustains for several years and been very pleased with them. I am certain that this one will be no different. I really prefer the look of the D model to that of the new E model and got this for $380 on closeout. Seems like I am about the only bass fisherman that likes the 1000 size more than the 2000, 2500, 3000 sizes and many times that means that I can find some good deals. Matt You're gonna love that reel ! Quote
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