Bassfisherman94 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I've heard that the Palomar knot is not a good not for Flourocarbon? Is this true? Quote
bassinbrian Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 It works great and never had a problem with it but make sure you wet your line good when snugging it up. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 You can use a Palomar if you are careful not to twist it before you loop it back over the bait or hook. As stated above, wet it throughtly and draw it closed slowly. I have not not had a problem following these guidlines. Quote
collegefishing12 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 You can use a Palomar if you are careful not to twist it before you loop it back over the bait or hook. As stated above, wet it throughtly and draw it closed slowly. I have not not had a problem following these guidlines. Perfectly stated. Some lines are more accepting a parlmor knot and you may get away with a line twist before looping it over your bait. On other lines, this may cause you headaches! Again, most fluro's are accepting of the knot, so long as you are careful "knot" to break the two rules above. However, I had an incident with BPS Fluro one day that ended in me stripping brand new line of 4 reels in the middle of the lake because I kept breaking fish off at the knot. Quote
MNGeorge Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 From my experience, the Palomar is the best knot for fluorocarbon, so long as you remember to moisten it before drawing it tight. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 I've heard that the Palomar knot is not a good not for Flourocarbon? Is this true? In my opinion... yes. steve Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I dont like it...I prefer the San Diego Jam knot Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted February 13, 2011 Super User Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Quote
bwell Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Try it with braid and see what happens when you get something big on... Quote
TimJ Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 bwell...I would rather not wait...does the knot pull free? TJ Quote
bwell Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Palomar is probably the best for braid that I know of but do NOT use the uni knot on braid it will pull through... As far as using the Palomar for floro, you should have no problems, just like everyone else have said make sure you wet the line first... Quote
CAdeltaLipRipper Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 i love it for all lines. Except sometimes ill use the double palomar for braid Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted February 13, 2011 Super User Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Try it with braid and see what happens when you get something big on... It's the only knot I use with braid. I've pulled up a 67# fallen tree with #50 Power Pro. (Kinda funny, I weighed my catch ;D) I've also broken hooks on jigs before this knot has slipped or broke. Quote
Saladmander Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Try it with braid and see what happens when you get something big on... I've straightened hooks on a hang up with a uni on braid. I don't cut the tag end up tight to the knot, though. Quote
bwell Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I lost several 20+lbs cats because of the uni knot using braid... After i made the switch to Palomar I never had a problem again... Quote
TimJ Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 that's why I asked. I have used the uni with braid without one problem. I leave a bit of tag end as well. vertical jigging for smallies and landing incidental muskies over 15...not one loss to a knot...but I will look into the palomar. thanks TJ Quote
Fish Chris Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I use the Palomar about 80% of the time, to attach my fluorocarbon leaders to a hook or lure. I never break off on fish. Sure, you need to wet it before cinching, and make sure you don't get any twists involved..... but then this holds true for ANY monofilament (yes, fluorocarbon is still just a monofilament.... and it's only good for leaders Just my personal opinion of course. I feel compelled to say this any time I speak of knots > I tie plenty of crappy knots.... but what I'm great at, is knowing when I've tied a crappy knot, and retying it as many X's as I have to, until it's perfect ! This is why I NEVER break off fish. Look at the knot as it cinches. It should be easy to cinch down fully, and the knot should be clean, and symetrical.... regardless of what knot your tying. If it doesn't cinch down clean and pretty, chop that sucker, and try again ! ....or maybe lose the biggest fish of your life !!! It's your choice. Peace, Fish Quote
breezy Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 You can use a Palomar if you are careful not to twist it before you loop it back over the bait or hook. As stated above, wet it throughtly and draw it closed slowly. I have not not had a problem following these guidlines. Perfectly stated. Some lines are more accepting a parlmor knot and you may get away with a line twist before looping it over your bait. On other lines, this may cause you headaches! Again, most fluro's are accepting of the knot, so long as you are careful "knot" to break the two rules above. However, I had an incident with BPS Fluro one day that ended in me stripping brand new line of 4 reels in the middle of the lake because I kept breaking fish off at the knot. I've used the BPS fluoro in the past and tying a palomar knot without any issues. My friend however had the exact problem as you--his line would break at the knot, usually on hooksets. Maybe I have a much weaker hookset but since I was using the same line with no problems I always suspected it was something to do with his knot. As far as palomar and fluoro in general, I haven't had any issues with it. I'm always careful to make sure the line doesn't twist (too much), wet the knot and try not to damage the line while tightening. I think as long as you're careful while tying it you're not going to run into any trouble. Quote
northern basser Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Try it with braid and see what happens when you get something big on... I use the uni only on braid and have never had a problem. I've caught numerous fish, hauled in logs, straightened hooks... and never had the line pull through. Power pro was the braid I was using. What brand was the line pulling through for you? Quote
WdyCrankbait Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I recently started using the Palomar knot, practice tying it to make sure it sits properly for drop shots. But, I have been using Yo-zuri hybrid line with no problems at all. But, no fish have tested the knot for me yet. Quote
bwell Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I prefer the Uni. Simple, Quick, and never had one fail on me. Ever, no matter what line material. Try it with braid and see what happens when you get something big on... I use the uni only on braid and have never had a problem. I've caught numerous fish, hauled in logs, straightened hooks... and never had the line pull through. Power pro was the braid I was using. What brand was the line pulling through for you? 65# PP... I dont know, but I have never had a problem after switching to the Palomar knot. Quote
steezy Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I use the Palomar about 80% of the time, to attach my fluorocarbon leaders to a hook or lure. I never break off on fish.Sure, you need to wet it before cinching, and make sure you don't get any twists involved..... but then this holds true for ANY monofilament (yes, fluorocarbon is still just a monofilament.... and it's only good for leaders Just my personal opinion of course. I feel compelled to say this any time I speak of knots > I tie plenty of crappy knots.... but what I'm great at, is knowing when I've tied a crappy knot, and retying it as many X's as I have to, until it's perfect ! This is why I NEVER break off fish. Look at the knot as it cinches. It should be easy to cinch down fully, and the knot should be clean, and symetrical.... regardless of what knot your tying. If it doesn't cinch down clean and pretty, chop that sucker, and try again ! ....or maybe lose the biggest fish of your life !!! It's your choice. Peace, Fish 100% truth in every word. Quote
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