Super User J Francho Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 This is one of those threads that adds no value. Some threads are just for entertainment purposes, lol. 1
outdoorsman110 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 idk...i think the GLX series is overrated. i have three of them - MBR843C, 844X, and SJR-782. I just went fishing today w/ texas rigged senkos using the 843 and honestly it was sensitive but not so much more sensitive than my Bass pro shops extreme rod to justify keeping the rod - No i'm not kidding or crazy - I've caught so many on the extreme rod and for a 70$ rod compared to my GLX which i got for an AMAZING price (considering its a glx) of 175$, I don't think the GLX is really worth the ~100& more...I'm sure there are rods that are comparably sensitive to the glx and significantly lighter than the heavy extreme rod that would be somewhere in the middle of those two in price that I would be much more satisfied with than both the GLX and BPS extreme my only question is why everyone raves about the GLX rods - they aren't really special to me at all - only thing i could think of is people telling themselves its the best rod they ever owned b/c they dropped nearly 400$ on it OR (and this is a question for all of you) is there a difference b/t the original loomis rods and those that are made by shimano...b/c that could explain why some love them and some think they are just good rods. RESPECT THE LOOMIS! RESPECT IT! I've owned 10 Loomis rods, I own 4 now.. I had to sell em the rest, outstanding rods, all picked up at thrift shops and pawnshops.
Hot n Tot Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Just wondering why you purchased the two GLX rods in the first place? You must have like the feel and balance of them? What did you expect? Just wondering.
Super User Alpster Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 If your interested in getting rid of those overrated GLX rods, I will gladly trade you brand new BPS Extreams for them. Just let me know. Ronnie 1
jeb2 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 this is very helpful info thanks! i'll have to pick up a BCR GLX for kicks and see what happens- i'll also check out dobyns would the rods w/ the recoil guides add sensitivity for those type of techniques? i would think they would. I've never really heard anyone say that. I think it's the stiffer tips on most of the BCR's that gives them the extra feel. The BCR803 is still a rod used to measure almost all comers against for bottom contact sensitivity. If you're going to get one and the specs fit your needs, that's where I'd concentrate my efforts.
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 The Loomis BCR 893 GLX is a very good Senko rod. In fact, other than the Loomis NRX 893C JWR, it's he best Senko rod Loomis makes. The rod is very sensitive and has plenty of power to pull fish away from trouble. Why are you even contributing to this thread since your BPS rods are your pick? Someday you will realize that you're talking out your ars when it comes to comparing the two rods. 1
juicehound Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) RESPECT THE LOOMIS! RESPECT IT! I've owned 10 Loomis rods, I own 4 now.. I had to sell em the rest, outstanding rods, all picked up at thrift shops and pawnshops. if a rod doesn't perform the way its price requires it to then it doesn't get my respect - that's just basic consumer satisfaction i do respect Gary Loomis and what he has done but for me the 783C wasn't exceptional for texas rigged senko fishing... Just wondering why you purchased the two GLX rods in the first place? You must have like the feel and balance of them? What did you expect? Just wondering. sure - i had high expectations of them due to a lot of great reviews (including many on this website) of people who have used them and couldn't say enough about how amazing they were so i went on ebay and picked up what i thought would be the three most versatile rods in the GLX range and have been fishing with them lately. i purchased them without ever handling one at a store. If your interested in getting rid of those overrated GLX rods, I will gladly trade you brand new BPS Extreams for them. Just let me know. Ronnie hey ronnie you've got some quality jokes, but no thanks. I've never really heard anyone say that. I think it's the stiffer tips on most of the BCR's that gives them the extra feel. The BCR803 is still a rod used to measure almost all comers against for bottom contact sensitivity. If you're going to get one and the specs fit your needs, that's where I'd concentrate my efforts. alright great! i'll be looking for a used BCR803 and will be selling my MBR843 on ebay soon Edited May 7, 2012 by J Francho Rude, disrespectful comments removed
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general. You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after. More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need.
outdoorsman110 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 if a rod doesn't perform the way its price requires it to then it doesn't get my respect - that's just basic consumer satisfaction i do respect Gary Loomis and what he has done but for me the 783C wasn't exceptional for texas rigged senko fishing... sure - i had high expectations of them due to a lot of great reviews (including many on this website) of people who have used them and couldn't say enough about how amazing they were so i went on ebay and picked up what i thought would be the three most versatile rods in the GLX range and have been fishing with them lately. i purchased them without ever handling one at a store. hey ronnie you've got some quality jokes, but no thanks. alright great! i'll be looking for a used BCR803 and will be selling my MBR843 on ebay soon Teehee.
juicehound Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) The Loomis BCR 893 GLX is a very good Senko rod. In fact, other than the Loomis NRX 893C JWR, it's he best Senko rod Loomis makes. The rod is very sensitive and has plenty of power to pull fish away from trouble. Why are you even contributing to this thread since your BPS rods are your pick? Someday you will realize that you're talking out your ars when it comes to comparing the two rods. Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general. You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after. More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need. why are so many people on here so rude and defensive/sensitive? - its not like you guys designed the rods or something.... i'm contributing to the thread b/c people on here have experience w/ bass gear and i'm looking for some advice/thoughts i googled overrated and GLX and it brought me here so i'm jumping into the convo b/c that's what i'm experiencing right now...so what's the big deal with that? and you are just like king road warrior - you didn't read my post correctly - i DO NOT like the BPS extreme rod better for several reasons BUT the sensitivity of the 843 is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for me to justifiy the price increase - thus i'm looking for an alternative and that was suggested by you and jeb2 so that's what i'll try and do you mean 803? must have been a typo and to your second comment you are completely wrong - i looked at the loomis website and for the MBR843C GLX it says " An excellent all around jig and worm rod especially in deep-water applications. The extra length gives you much more casting range too. Anglers have discovered its versatility for pike, walleyes, snook, redfish and other light saltwater species. It’s powerful, with a light tip and still has enough power to move fish away from cover. Works extremely well for soft jerkbaits. A classic example of GLX technology at it's finest. so don't tell me that i didn't look before i bought. Edited May 7, 2012 by Glenn Removed inflammatory remark.
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted May 7, 2012 BassResource.com Administrator Posted May 7, 2012 Ok, guys, it's fishing, not stock advice. Check your emotions at the door if you're going to post on this thread. Final warning before we shut it down. 1
juicehound Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Ok, guys, it's fishing, not stock advice. Check your emotions at the door if you're going to post on this thread. Final warning before we shut it down. now there's a moderator that i like!
outdoorsman110 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 now there's a moderator that i like! So basically you don't like roadwarrior because he told you the truth.. Lol.
outdoorsman110 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 · Hidden by Glenn, May 7, 2012 - No reason given Hidden by Glenn, May 7, 2012 - No reason given Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general. You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after. More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need. Bassn Blvd FTW.
WookieeJedi Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I don't use high-end rods, mainly because fishing from the yak greatly increases the chance of snapping a tip. My rods vary from $10 to $70, anything more than that isn't worth the risk. If ever I go back to a bass boat, I may decide to buy a little more expensive stuff. Here's the thing about the G. Loomis brand and their ilk, the top of the market drives improvement in the rest of the market. This is true of just about any industry. So rather than despising someone's rod of choice because it is really expensive, keep in mind their choice made more affordable rods better quality. So, to the guys who spent $400 on a rod, I say thanks, and keep up the good work.
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 For what it's worth, here is my opinion on G Loomis. I have no facts to back any of the following statements or ideas; they're just my opinion, right or wrong. Before graphite, we fished with primarily glass rods. From what I recall, Loomis was one of the first to develop a quality graphite rod when graphite started to come out in the market. I believe Loomis set the ground work for quality graphite rods, thus were a bit more expensive than most other brands at that time. Loomis built a name for him developing his rods and gained the respect of fisherman who used his product. Due to the advantages of graphite over glass, rod manufacturers had no choice but to build graphite rods. Fast forward to today. There are so many different graphite rod manufacturers out there that you can easily find a quality rod without breaking the bank. Technology/education has allowed for rod manufactures to build quality graphite rods that aren't probably too different from one another, other than the price tag. I believe rod manufacturers have closely caught up to the quality of that of the Loomis rods and some haven't. I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod. Like many others, my hands are very sensitive at detecting bites or bottom debris. I can feel bites using a BPS rod while others may or may not. I prefer Loomis because they offer rods that enhance the sensitivity and I simply like their rods. Are there other rods out there that perform "just as well," sure. I honestly think that if you have a hard time detecting bites with any rod, then try using a GLX or NRX rod by Loomis and see if your "bite detecting" improves.
baluga Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Some threads are just for entertainment purposes, lol. True that!
Super User tomustang Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod. I agree, for some of us we are trained in the slightest of taps or learned have detect them. Kudos to glenn for showing the post editor
juicehound Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 So basically you don't like roadwarrior because he told you the truth.. Lol. no i don't like his response to my post on this thread - it was rude and accusational I don't use high-end rods, mainly because fishing from the yak greatly increases the chance of snapping a tip. My rods vary from $10 to $70, anything more than that isn't worth the risk. If ever I go back to a bass boat, I may decide to buy a little more expensive stuff. Here's the thing about the G. Loomis brand and their ilk, the top of the market drives improvement in the rest of the market. This is true of just about any industry. So rather than despising someone's rod of choice because it is really expensive, keep in mind their choice made more affordable rods better quality. So, to the guys who spent $400 on a rod, I say thanks, and keep up the good work. i have no problem with what anyone spends their money on as far as rods are concerned - i just don't think the 783 i have for senko fishing is worth it - that's why i'm going to try a different GLX - the 803 and see what happens For what it's worth, here is my opinion on G Loomis. I have no facts to back any of the following statements or ideas; they're just my opinion, right or wrong. Before graphite, we fished with primarily glass rods. From what I recall, Loomis was one of the first to develop a quality graphite rod when graphite started to come out in the market. I believe Loomis set the ground work for quality graphite rods, thus were a bit more expensive than most other brands at that time. Loomis built a name for him developing his rods and gained the respect of fisherman who used his product. Due to the advantages of graphite over glass, rod manufacturers had no choice but to build graphite rods. Fast forward to today. There are so many different graphite rod manufacturers out there that you can easily find a quality rod without breaking the bank. Technology/education has allowed for rod manufactures to build quality graphite rods that aren't probably too different from one another, other than the price tag. I believe rod manufacturers have closely caught up to the quality of that of the Loomis rods and some haven't. I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod. Like many others, my hands are very sensitive at detecting bites or bottom debris. I can feel bites using a BPS rod while others may or may not. I prefer Loomis because they offer rods that enhance the sensitivity and I simply like their rods. Are there other rods out there that perform "just as well," sure. I honestly think that if you have a hard time detecting bites with any rod, then try using a GLX or NRX rod by Loomis and see if your "bite detecting" improves. now there's a quality post! thanks for sharing your thoughts - i agree with all of what you said like i wrote back to tom D, i'm not new to the sport of bass fishing and i'm just looking for an improvement in sensitivity vs. the BPS extreme; improvement that is enough to justify whatever increase in price the "better" rod happens to be. i'm going to pick up a bcr803 and see how that compares to the 843 and i'll post back here as soon as i test I agree, for some of us we are trained in the slightest of taps or learned have detect them. Kudos to glenn for showing the post editor i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing
jeb2 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I looked at the loomis website and for the MBR843C GLX it says An excellent all around jig and worm rod especially in deep-water applications. The extra length gives you much more casting range too. Anglers have discovered its versatility for pike, walleyes, snook, redfish and other light saltwater species. It’s powerful, with a light tip and still has enough power to move fish away from cover. Works extremely well for soft jerkbaits. A classic example of GLX technology at it's finest. so don't tell me that i didn't look before i bought. The MBR series was one of the rods that really propelled Loomis to fame back in the early days. And in those days, all that they say in the quote above was true. But as technology has improved, there are other rods, even in their own lines, that are better at more niche areas. Like the BCR's being more bottom contact sensitive. It would be nice if they pointed that difference out more, but it might cost them sales. So you have to look at their descriptions as advertisement and take it with a grain of salt, unfortunately. NOT knocking the MBR843 GLX, mind you. Love mine, as I said. It's just not "best" for everything, the way the ad makes it sound like it is.
Super User tomustang Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 i'm just looking for an improvement in sensitivity vs. the BPS extreme; improvement that is enough to justify whatever increase in price the "better" rod happens to be i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing Well sensativity is just one quality you looking at for price, the rest of the components like guides, seats, weight, balance, warranty also contribute to the price, sometimes name too.
WookieeJedi Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing I got a good laugh out of that. I was thinking, "I have rods and reels older than 18!" Then I realized, I really do have stuff that old. Not just fishing stuff either, stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore... 2
Super User tomustang Posted May 7, 2012 Super User Posted May 7, 2012 stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore... Either you maintained your size or you hoard 1
WookieeJedi Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Either you maintained your size or you hoard I am still a svelte 240, and have been for some time, sir.
juicehound Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 The MBR series was one of the rods that really propelled Loomis to fame back in the early days. And in those days, all that they say in the quote above was true. But as technology has improved, there are other rods, even in their own lines, that are better at more niche areas. Like the BCR's being more bottom contact sensitive. It would be nice if they pointed that difference out more, but it might cost them sales. So you have to look at their descriptions as advertisement and take it with a grain of salt, unfortunately. NOT knocking the MBR843 GLX, mind you. Love mine, as I said. It's just not "best" for everything, the way the ad makes it sound like it is. yeah it sure would be nice! or maybe they should discontinue some of their rods if necessary but i doubt that will happen lol Well sensativity is just one quality you looking at for price, the rest of the components like guides, seats, weight, balance, warranty also contribute to the price, sometimes name too. definitely. I got a good laugh out of that. I was thinking, "I have rods and reels older than 18!" Then I realized, I really do have stuff that old. Not just fishing stuff either, stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore... bahahahahaha! that's hilarious!
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