SlingBlades Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Been looking at maybe a Loomis CBR 783 for throwing small crankbaits around docks and cover. Looking at the shorter rod for tight quarters and accuracy. Any thoughts or experiences out there with this line of rods? Am I on the right track? Thanks! :-? Quote
Carrington Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 ive had the rod for a while now and its great for cranks, but this rod has horrible eyelets in my opinion. One of them cracked within 15 days of buying the rod. For this reason i will never again buy a gloomis. try a shimano compre or crucial. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 20, 2011 Super User Posted January 20, 2011 ive had the rod for a while now and its great for cranks, but this rod has horrible eyelets in my opinion. One of them cracked within 15 days of buying the rod. For this reason i will never again buy a gloomis. try a shimano compre or crucial. 15 days? The rod is under warranty, have it replaced. G.Loomis is among the best for customer service. As for "horrible eyelets" you might be alone with that opinion. I have a few G. Loomis rods and consider the components top notch, even innovative in many instances. Recoil guides are a case in point. : Quote
Bassyak Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I've used a CBR781 for about 3 years now and just recently bought a Deep Flex CBR864. Never had any issues with either of them...great crankbait rods. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think all the CBRs (except maybe the GLX) have Fuji Alconite guides, which are the same guides used on the Shimano Crucials. I have two Shimano Compres, too. They use Fuji Hardloy guides and are also great cranking rods, just not as sensitive as my Loomis rods...so I mainly use them for topwaters and lipless cranks. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 20, 2011 Super User Posted January 20, 2011 Alconites....Carrington will have a hard time avoiding them. Quote
Carrington Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up Quote
KSRonH Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I used the loomis 783 crankbait rod for a couple of years. Laugh if you will, but I favor a BPS Pro Finesse ML 6'10'' rod. The loomis CBR783 is more of a ml than a medium and lacks a little in backbone, not to mention it's $225 retail and I picked the BPS rod up for $70 on sale. A friend of mine is unloading his 30+ St Croix Legend Tournament rods so I bought a LTBC69MLXF, (dropshot) rod from him for $100. It hasn't replaced my BPS Finesse rod yet, but we'll have to see this coming spring. I use these rods for throwing 1/4 oz top water and shallow cranks with a Abu Premier reel. I think you can do better than the gloomis crankbait rods. I'm not knocking gloomis as I have several other gloomis rods, I just don't like the loomis crankbait rods. Quote
bigbassdave Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Tight quarters, yes. Heavy cover, no. This is a fun rod to cast lighter baits with but you may have difficulty controlling a heavier fish if you're fishing in cover. Finding a rod that will throw light crankbaits and perform well in heavy cover is a difficult task. I've been using a Powell 684CB for that purpose. This is a very fast action for a crankbait rod. It won't handle the lightest crankbaits as easily as the CBR783 but it's a good compromise and it has a lot more backbone. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 21, 2011 Super User Posted January 21, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up That's because they don't spontaneously crack. Quote
SlingBlades Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks for the replies. The lake I fish normally isn't a big fish lake. It has a lot of 3's in it, but the 7's are rare. We usually throw small cranks in cold water around piers and the brush. I need accuracy and the ability to throw like a #5 Shad Raps& the small Speed Traps....and I prefer casting over spinning. The fish are sluggish due to water temps in the 40's so I don't have to hit them hard and bust them out. Usually the bigger ones even swim out toward deeper water. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted January 21, 2011 Super User Posted January 21, 2011 I've been throwing the CBR843 7' Med for several years now. I have it paired with Daiwa Sol and #8 Yozuri. I throw mostly Lucky Crafts that run up to 5-6' and 1/4 oz rattle traps. The rod handles those baits perfectly. I just recently bought the CBR906 7'6 M/H. I haven't used this rod yet but there is a noticeable difference between the two. This rod, IMO, is too much for small to medium cranks. I would concentrate more on buying a rod to match the size plug you're using and not the size of the fish you might catch. The 843 is perfect for small to med cranks. Also, IMO, I wouldn't use any rod under 7'. P.S. I've been using Loomis rods for decades and NEVER had an issue with the guides. Quote
Carrington Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up That's because they don't spontaneously crack. Well the company that owns loomis will send me a rod if anything at all happens, so i think that loomis should do the same. In my opinion i just feel like they are over priced and this is the reason why i have not bought a single loomis rod after my first. I will be sticking with shimano for a while. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted January 21, 2011 Super User Posted January 21, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up That's because they don't spontaneously crack. Well the company that owns loomis will send me a rod if anything at all happens, so i think that loomis should do the same. In my opinion i just feel like they are over priced and this is the reason why i have not bought a single loomis rod after my first. I will be sticking with shimano for a while. good. more for me. Quote
baluga Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I have the CBR843 for a while now and it's ok but tip heavy for me. Just like what carrinton said they are over price. I would rather have the phenix umbx or cumara reaction rods. Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted January 21, 2011 Super User Posted January 21, 2011 I had an 843 and didn't like it a bit...felt very underpowered and whippy...handled baits fine but had a hard time casting most cranks. I just couldn't get any distance. I would suggest a more powerful rod than a 3 Quote
J_Pearson Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up That's because they don't spontaneously crack. Exactly. Quote
Hellbenderman Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I have both a CBR843 and a CBR89, and a few others. I have never had any problem with any G Loomis rod. The 843 is best suited for smaller cranks, shallow and mid depth, Bagley Fat Cats, Bandits, etc., and while it may seem whimpy, it has plenty of back bone. The 896 is for deeper diving cranks and anything that offers a lot of resistance. I love both rods and wouldn't trade them for any other, but they are different rods, and you should figure out what you really want one for, lighter stuff, the 843, heavier the 896...or just by both! You will anyway! Can't go wrong with either one IMHO. Quote
bryand82487 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I called loomis and they tried to make me pay 50 bucks so I just hung up That's because they don't spontaneously crack. Well the company that owns loomis will send me a rod if anything at all happens, so i think that loomis should do the same. In my opinion i just feel like they are over priced and this is the reason why i have not bought a single loomis rod after my first. I will be sticking with shimano for a while. If I'm not mistaken Shimano owns G Loomis. Quote
Carrington Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 yes shimano does own g.loomis, but shimano are just much better people to deal with and they are have a better warranty. Quote
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