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I dropped $20 on a spool of Seguar InvisX fluro in 20lb test for pitching worms/jigs.  Read a lot of confusing stuff about which knots to use to tie to the hook/jig, so which knots do you fluro users use?  I've used a Palomar for years with copoly and never had a hint of a problem, but apparently lots of people here don't think it's so great with fluro.  So how about some suggestions?

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If tied with care the Palomar is fine and has served me will. For worms and sof craw baits I use the BMF or Punch hook and snell the hook.

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The knot I use for my Invisix is similar to 16-20 knot above, just with a few more wraps and the tag end goes through the loop before going back up through the top loop. It's called the San Diego knot. I like it because it's strong and super fast to tie with any lure that has any weight to it at all. Learned the technique from an Omega Jigs video.

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I use a Palomar with no problem, just remember to wet it before you cinch it down.  Check for kinks or rough spots on the line near the knot, if you find any, retie. 

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Some argue that the Palomar Knot crimps fluorocarbon

line. I use a Sixteen-Twenty knot without any issues:

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

I use this knot for everything.  If I'm using 10lb test or less I normally give it 4 wraps.  I've never had a problem with it.

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Been using the palomar knot for fluoro since way back when...never had any problems with it.  Just remember to moisten it before drawing it tight.

I can see a use for RW's suggested knot, however.  That one would be much easier to use than the palomar when tying on longer baits, like Pointers or X-Raps...have to remember that one. :)

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Thanks guys.  I like the looks of that 16-20 so will be giving that a try along with the Palomar.  Now if things would just warm up a bit... :)

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Some argue that the Palomar Knot crimps fluorocarbon

line. I use a Sixteen-Twenty knot without any issues:

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

I watched "A day on the Lake" the other day featuring Alton Jones.

He was asked about his preference in knots with fluorocarbon and he named this same knot. He called it a "hangman's noose" though he admitted that he thought that there was another name for it. He also demonstrated it nicely a couple of times.

:)

A-Jay

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Guys that can't tie palomars have trouble with palomar knots.  They work fine with fluoro, especially InvisX. 

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Some argue that the Palomar Knot crimps fluorocarbon

line. I use a Sixteen-Twenty knot without any issues:

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

I started using that knot a few months back for fluoro connections.  Exceedingly fast to tie.  Works great.  I can tie a good Palomar, but there are still the times where I've broken it from not taking the extra moment to seat it properly.  Never had a problem with the 16-20.  The old uni-knot works just as well.

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I tie the Palomar for everything I can, including spinning baits, buzzbaits, Chatterbiats, jigs and the Carolina swivel.

I have started using snaps for spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, Chatterbaits and of course crankbaits. Seems to work great so far and it allows me to change baits very fast.

If you are going to use a Palomar Knot snap on a spinnerbait or buzzbait may I suggest purchasing a foot or two of lawn tractor fuel line and cut off a small section(1/8 inch) and put that piece of plastic on the bait's nose to stop the snap from moving around.

Works great. But don't give me credit, it is an old pro's trick that has been around for a while.

At the 100th Boy Scout Jamboree I worked the Berkley Shakespeare booth where we tested knot strengths and the Palomar, if tied correctly, always exceeded the line's test when we put it on the machine.

Just my two cents.  :)

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I use Invisx, and always use the Palomar, and have never run into a problem.

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I use the improved clinch and have not had any problems. I think this knot is very similiar to the san diego jam if i'm not mistaken.

Just checked out that 16-20 knot looks like a san diego jam without going through the bottom loop before passing through the top loop. Thats the knot I use when I snell a hook except when I make my wraps I'm going around the hook shank as well....

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Some argue that the Palomar Knot crimps fluorocarbon

line. I use a Sixteen-Twenty knot without any issues:

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

I watched "A day on the Lake" the other day featuring Alton Jones.

He was asked about his preference in knots with fluorocarbon and he named this same knot. He called it a "hangman's noose" though he admitted that he thought that there was another name for it. He also demonstrated it nicely a couple of times.

:)

A-Jay

I watched the same thing !  ;D

The knot he was tying is actually not a hangman's noose knot as far as I could tell. It actually looked like a 16-20 knot to me. I use the 16-20 for everything except braid and dropshots and I'm nearly positive his knot was a 16-20. Perhaps a bit modified, but the same idea.

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Wow, i almost never use a palomar, but use the trilene knot for almost everything.  To each his own.

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