Ineedanewscreenname20170204 Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I use Yozuri UltraSoft for all my BC fishing and it seems to work just fine. I've never used 100% fluoro. Is is THAT much better (esp. in terms of sensitivity)? I've used braid and the sensitivity is incredible but the visibility is an issue in clear water. I prefer to avoid the braid / fluoro leader madness. Should I stay with Yozuri, go with fluoro or with braid? Quote
PondHunter Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 The best thing I can tell you is to learn how to tie on a Flouro leader. Flouro takes on a coil too easily and is too expensive to fill a reel with enough of it to fish effectively. I fish in alot of clear water and the flouro leader is definitely an advantage. I had a reel spooled with flouro and it coiled up within a day. The double surgeon's knot is very easy to tie, and makes a great loop in the braid. Use a good interlocking loop connection and it will hold up well. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I use 14lb floro for my jigs and 10-14lb floro for my worms and it works well for me. No leaders to mess with. I worm fish with a baitcaster. This is for the Tidal Potomac, which is loaded with heavy grass growth and wood. Quote
SWMIBASSER Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I can't comment on the Ultra Soft. Or with the heavier weights. But I can directly compare 100% Flourocarbon in 10lb test with 8lb test Y/Z Hybrid. I don't see any difference in sensitivity. I'm happy with Y/Z and am switching EVERYTHING over to it this year. Quote
kikstand454 Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I can't comment on the Ultra Soft. Or with the heavier weights. But I can directly compare 100% Flourocarbon in 10lb test with 8lb test Y/Z Hybrid. I don't see any difference in sensitivity.I'm happy with Y/Z and am switching EVERYTHING over to it this year. agreed. when sportsmans warehouse went out of business here.. i got some 15lb berkley100% flouro for dirt cheap. i put it on my worm/t-rig rod and fished it all last year, i liked it alot. it was tough and smooth and still today it has little memory though ive gone through alot of it on that spool because of abrasion. however.... im having a real hard time talking myself into buying another spool of it to refill this reel. the price just hurts to look at. what this tells me is that though i loved it... it wasnt so very much better that i immediately knowi want to buy it agin over just spooling up 15lb yo zuri and going with it. the price difference is just too much compared to the "advantages". im sticking to the yozuri unless i can get the berkley 70% off again. Quote
Ineedanewscreenname20170204 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Posted February 7, 2010 Yeah I think I'm sticking with Yozuri Ultrasoft for all my baitcasting setups. Mostly 12# but 6# for one finesse combo. Quote
jb7725 Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 i have used all of the above and i prefer 50# power pro with a 12# flouro leader is my favorite for this application Quote
RandySBreth Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Nothing beats superline, but the visibility thing gets me, so I use Fireline/Fluoro Leader. I fish Table Rock/Beaver Lake (<- super clear) so I like the leader thing. I know it's not what you want to hear, but I've learned to love it. Cheaper than spooling straight fluorocarbon too. Quote
Ineedanewscreenname20170204 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 Well I reckon it's time to go braid with floro leaders. What length leaders do you all leave? Does it go throught the rod eyes smoothly? Quote
Super User David P Posted January 11, 2011 Super User Posted January 11, 2011 Braid with leader is an option, but straight fluoro work very well too. It's all about preference and the cover you're fishing. In heavy weeds I use braid cause it cuts through the weeds well, but if fishing deeper water, I prefer straight fluorocarbon. I feel more bites on slack line with fluorocarbon than braid, but braid is extremely sensitive on a tight line. Lot of it is personal preference though. I use Samurai braid when using braid, and P-Line Fluorocarbon when just straight fluorocarbon is what I want. It's a great fluorocarbon for a fraction of the cost of some of the other higher end fluoros. Quote
SeanW Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Braid with leader is an option, but straight fluoro work very well too. It's all about preference and the cover you're fishing. In heavy weeds I use braid cause it cuts through the weeds well, but if fishing deeper water, I prefer straight fluorocarbon. I feel more bites on slack line with fluorocarbon than braid, but braid is extremely sensitive on a tight line. Lot of it is personal preference though. . Yeah, what he said. I dont tie leaders at all. To me it is a big hassle and not needed. If I need braid, its tied directly to the bait. If not is 100% fluorocarbon. Yes I punch with it to, 25lb is plenty strong. Deep fishing is 6 all the way to 15lb for me. Quote
BassThumb Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I use fluoro and copoly leaders with spinning gear all the time, and I really like it because light braid(15-20#) handles really well on spinning reels. But with casting gear and larger diameter lines, I really don't like using leaders if I don't have to. I hate those big annoying knots running through my rod guides. I prefer straight 50# braid for fishing heavy, shady cover and pitching/flipping, and straight 15# fluoro for fishing deep or working edges and areas with less cover where a fish is more likely to spot my line. I figure since when pitching/flipping in grass almost all hits come on the fall for me, the lure is right in fishes face before any braided line would be spotted. Quote
RandySBreth Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Well I reckon it's time to go braid with floro leaders. What length leaders do you all leave? Does it go throught the rod eyes smoothly? I usually go with a leader about the length of the rod I'm using, or about a foot longer. So 7' rod -> about 7- to 8-foot leader. If you tie your knots well (and aren't using a rod with the silly "micro guides") the line leader knot passes through easily. Quote
Jason Penn Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Nothing wrong with the Yozuri line at all. I used it for a while. I'm now using 15# Vicious fluorocarbon. Lots of folks seem to hate it, but it's really working out good for me, and it's super cheap! I prefer the way lures fall on fc vs braid. I'm using 8# Berkley 100% on my spinning rod, but I think I'm going to try 10# Invizx next. I'm using a doubled-line clinch wrapped 3 times and tightened down slow. I still have some breakoffs if I don't retie after a couple of fish though. This is the easiet knot for me to tie for all lures. Cranks & palomar knots are a nightmare for me! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 12, 2011 Super User Posted January 12, 2011 I fish weightless soft plastics on spinnung tackle and #6 Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft. For weighted soft plastics I am currently using #15 Ultra Soft. My jig rod is spooled with #50 Fireline Braid, but I have not fished it yet. I have been fishing PP on this rig for several months. My observation is that braid has significantly improved my jig fishing. I may experiment with the Fireline for weighted soft plastics. Regarding Fluorocarbons, I tested several in 2010: Inviz, AbrazX, P-Line CX and Tatsu. The Seaguar lines are all fine, but Tatsu stands head and shoulders above the others. This is my second go-around with the P-Line and will be my last. 8-) Quote
APK62 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 It's hard to beat the combination of braid and a fluro leader. For ids, I would go with all braid. Quote
Ineedanewscreenname20170204 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks for the info everyone. I think I'll try braid (that Suffix 832 looks promising) for Jigging where there's not too much slack line and some kind of Floro for the Senkos and maybe T-Rigs. I can always add a leader if I need to on the Jig rig. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted January 12, 2011 Super User Posted January 12, 2011 For worming fluoro I like and recommend Seaguar AbrazX 12# and for braid I like Sufix Performance braid, but I really want to try that 832 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 13, 2011 Super User Posted January 13, 2011 Light to moderate sparse cover I use Berkley Trilene Big Game 15# test; very abrasion resistant & shock-resistance. Thick matted vegetation or Buck brush I use Power Pro 65# test which just happens to be the same diameter as the Big Game 15# test. Over the past few months I experimented with Triple Fish Fluorocarbon Line 12# test; 100 % Fluorocarbon made for fishing, not the commercial grade leader material sold by other countries. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted January 14, 2011 Super User Posted January 14, 2011 I've tried out Yo-zuri and various 100% fluoros for my worm and jig fishing. After messing around with all of them for a while, I've gone back to my tried and true braid with a fluoro leader. Theres just something about the incredible feel that you get with it that I love. The fact that I can effortlessly set the hook at any distance is another major plus in my book. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 16, 2011 Global Moderator Posted January 16, 2011 Agree... In the mostly shallow, weedy lakes in Central and So Fla braid with a floro leader just works the best. Mike Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 16, 2011 Super User Posted January 16, 2011 I use braid for alot of my jig/worm fishing, but about 95% of the time I am fishing thick weeds. One of the situations I switch to fluorocarbon is when it is really windy. Quote
WanderLust Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Samurai braid if required fluro leader. Quote
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