philsoreel Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 In high pressure waters, where fish see lot's of lures, do you think a fish is less likely to bite a lure with a visible line tied to it or does it not matter?
farmpond1 Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 The question is an oversimlification. Yes and/or no, depending upon the presentation type (fast moving crankbaits versus slow crawling soft plastics), the mood of the fish, water clarity, time of day, time of year, weather conditions, etc. etc. But everything else being equal, I'd go with clear line.
Super User BASSclary Posted December 16, 2010 Super User Posted December 16, 2010 The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author's and do not reflect Bass Resource's in any way. Having less visable line matters. However, It does not matter ALL the time. The fish will tell you if they want a nice Fluoro line, or a very visable braided line. Depends on what the fish wants. Every fish is different.
Super User K_Mac Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 I voted yes. I think in highly pressured, gin clear water it makes a difference-down on the list of other things to worry about in these conditions. Small line diameter (for more life-like presentations) and long accurate casts are more important IMO. In stained water I don't think line visibility makes as much difference to the fish as it does to me.
Carrington Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread
Super User Grey Wolf Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread Defiance is the word.
Uncle Leo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 The question is an oversimlification. Yes and/or no, depending upon the presentation type (fast moving crankbaits versus slow crawling soft plastics), the mood of the fish, water clarity, time of day, time of year, weather conditions, etc. etc. But everything else being equal, I'd go with clear line. I agree with this statement your thought process is much too simplified. There is such a thing as gin clear water which is heavily pressurized. One difference might be heavy weed growth which in turn provides cover for the bass. In this situation Braid may excel. Good sensitivity and the ability to cut through weeds will be your ally. Plus the weeds will tend to break up the braids visibility and appear to be nothing more then a weed. Now in a situation with gin clear water and lack of weed growth (which may have a rock bottom) Fluorocarbon will help in both visibility and abrasion resistance. Both will have a use in this type of situation. If the lake has both of these situations based on location of the Bass both lines may have there place.
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 It will make a difference if you think it will, and it won't make any differene if you think it won't. The fish don't care either way.
Super User Catt Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 If the bass can see your line what does he think it is? During highly pressured situations I think it's more about unnatural commotion caused by humans. Even in water that is less than gin clear a spike in human activity can cause lock jaw. There is a marked difference between weekends on Toledo Bend and week days
Super User Jig Man Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 If the bass can see your line what does he think it is? During highly pressured situations I think it's more about unnatural commotion caused by humans. Even in water that is less than gin clear a spike in human activity can cause lock jaw. There is a marked difference between weekends on Toledo Bend and week days That is one truism for sure. Increased boat traffic makes the fish hide on the little lakes I mostly fish. Mon-Thurs are the best. Lock jaw sets in on Fri.
Super User J Francho Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 In high pressure waters, where fish see lot's of lures, do you think a fish is less likely to bite a lure with a visible line tied to it or does it not matter? It may matter sometimes. Its really about being able to make the observation, and then the proper adjustment. Otherwise, its a stab in the dark.
tracker01 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Just use clear line, end of thinking process.
bassin is addicting Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 IMHO i think line visability is overrated. it's so easy to argue that "the more invisable a line is the better"...duh. but does it REALLY make a difference. how do we REALLY know what that fish is "thinking". seems to me that most bites are STRIKES....which translates to reaction bites. which means to me that line visability is a non-factor. do they "study" a bait long enough to even notice the line....and if they do "see" it...does that really influence them to not bite? aren't they focusing on the bait? how do they know its not just a strand of weed a small stick or anything else that is close to the bait they are about to inhale. and just how visable is any line in 95% of the water we fish? gin clear....of course the case could be made. so....go with whatever line you have confidence in. just like you are throwing whatever bait you have confidence in at the time.
Super User J Francho Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread I think its funny and sad that you're keeping score. It isn't a competition.
Super User 00 mod Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 When I bass fish....doesnt matter! Now get on the river and fish for some trout in 42 degree gin clear water! Better use 4-6lb extreme low viz line! Set your drag loose as you dont want to lose the monsters! Jeff
Fish Chris Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 The Poll title is just so cut and dry :-? I'm one of those guys that's always saying how little of a difference line visibility usually makes.... Yet I had to vote "yes" because I would not go quite so far as to say, it makes "NO difference" :-X Sure, I think it can make a small difference. But most of the time, that difference is probably about .2% Peace, Fish
Super User senile1 Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 Like anything that a bass experiences, I believe it is possible for a bass to be classically conditioned to associate certain things with danger or pain. If a bass can become conditioned to certain lures and stop biting them, who can say that they can't become conditioned to associate a long threadlike object attached to lures with pain, especially in clear water. I know I can't say that with certainty so I use leaders for that and other reasons.
philsoreel Posted December 17, 2010 Author Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread I love how you got someone to take a picture of you holding that monster.
Super User Grey Wolf Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread I love how you got someone to take a picture of you holding that monster. I love how that last statement made no sense.
philsoreel Posted December 17, 2010 Author Posted December 17, 2010 haha i love how you make this after being destroyed on the last thread I love how you got someone to take a picture of you holding that monster. I love how that last statement made no sense. His avatar...
Super User J Francho Posted December 17, 2010 Super User Posted December 17, 2010 Well, this has run its course.
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