Bassnajr Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Hey all.... Like many folks on this board I am a Shimano man. However, I don't know much about "vintage" Shimano reels. Did Shimano ever make a reel (excuse that!) clunker of a baitcasting reel...something to stay away from??? Alan (bassnajr) Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted December 5, 2010 Super User Posted December 5, 2010 My first baitcaster from around '87 was a Bantam, which was actually a decent reel for it's time. My affair with Shimano ended years ago after bail and binding issues with some of their spinning reels - Aeros and Saharas. The fact that they insisted there was no binding issues in spite of the fact people everywhere having the issue lost points with me. To be fair, they have shipped small parts to me at no charge when I needed them to complete repairs on a reel. Every company has a clunker in their lineup. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted December 5, 2010 Super User Posted December 5, 2010 they made a bunch of spinning reels in the late 90's and early 2000's that had a binding when wet issue and swear there was nothing wrong.i had a stradic that did it and i know of plenty of others who had it happen.these were all loyal shimano guys who switched to diawa after shimano gave them no satisfaction. Quote
Bassnajr Posted December 5, 2010 Author Posted December 5, 2010 I should be more specific... "Higher End" Shimano reels. The Stradic, I consider pretty high end...wow! I have a few of the white ones no problems yet. Quote
0119 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 That probaly depends on what type of fishing you do. Lots of inshore fisherman would tell you the Chronarch Mg was junk. Saltwater approved but with lots of frames dissolving from the inside out, protective coating or not. For me the Curado E is a clunker stripped of every nano ounce of weight to a point it cant handle any fish but bass. How about the Corvalus which suffered a recall back in the 90's. Quote
hmongkidBee Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 For me the Curado E is a clunker stripped of every nano ounce of weight to a point it cant handle any fish but bass. the curado E is a very versatile reel. I've used it in offshore fishing for mackeral, bonito, sandbass, etc and it's never let me down. The drag is exceptionally smooth. Just make sure you're using the E5 and not the E7 reel. Quote
Kevinator1 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 All brands have had a few clunkers. The only thing I don't like is when there are multiple complaints and a company still says that there is no problem. Seems like all companies are like that now. No wonder our economy is in the toilet. I would be a very loyal customer to any company that stands up and says yes we made some mistakes but we will take care of them. As far as reels, I believe you get what you pay for. Anything under $50 bucks usually has inferior parts. :'( Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 5, 2010 Super User Posted December 5, 2010 I think Shimano is fine for freshwater, however there are better options out there better prices. As for salt, I doubt I would go Shimano again, saltwater approved means nothing to me. Their true saltwater spinning reels are fairly rugged but not very smooth, spheros, thunnus and baitrunners, stella sw is pretty decent but it should be for $900. In all fairness I have yet to try the new thunnus c14 or sargossa, sargossa felt nice in the store but most reels do. I have a 8000 spheros on blue water shimano tallus ( used only 3 or 4 times) which I will be giving away in the near future to one of my buddies that could use a beefier outfit, we had to run down a 20 -25# bonita with it, my similar sized Abu handled them much better. Quote
Lcomfort Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 you mean did Shimano ever make a reel that WAS'NT a clunker? LMAO Im a Daiwa guy, Im just playing hope everyone got a chuckle out of it and no one gets mad. As you know Shimano makes a lot of fine reels, But to get to your Question YES they did as many said They had a HUGE problem with Spinning reels binding up when wet and like others said they would swear on there mothers nothing was wrong and you was lying if you told them there was a problem. It wasnt one reel it was LOTS of reels and it was a lot of different models that it was happening to. As far as I know they havent never made any casting reels that was jusk totally junk. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 6, 2010 Global Moderator Posted December 6, 2010 I had a Shimano Calyx several years ago. It was my first "expensive" baitcaster. I think it was 79.99 and I'd bought it for my big trip to Canada with my dad. It made it through that trip but it didn't make it past many more before the thumb bar stuck and the levelwind quit at the same time. Thankfully I worked at Cabela's at the time and new the Shimano rep because he gave me credit towards a new reel and I got my first green Curado. That was the first time I realized that spending the extra money was worth it to get better performance from my gear. Quote
MarkM Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 I bought one of the Shimano Bantams that had a lever that switched the retrieve speed from a speed reel (6:1?) to a crankin' reel (4.7:1?). It worked OK, but was pretty rough. Quote
Super User Sam Posted December 6, 2010 Super User Posted December 6, 2010 Solstace 200FE. it will break on you due to a faulty design. Quote
Super User Sam Posted December 6, 2010 Super User Posted December 6, 2010 Make that the 2000 FE. Hey, it is 2:24 AM so give a guy a break. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 6, 2010 Super User Posted December 6, 2010 Every compay has made POS reels, Abu ? had the EON and Törno, those were POS ( I had them ), Daiwa ? man that coputerized reel from the early 90 's was pure junk ( a friend of mine had it ), Shimano ? oh well, Shimano also has junk specially in the low end spectrum of spinning reels. So for example you can 't always say you get what you pay for even though it 's a good guideline, I have a very old Bantam B mag 1000 that was inexpensive and didn 't even came in a box ( clam package ), it 's not the nicest looking, it 's not the greatest caster, it 's not the lightest but I 've beat the crap oout of that reel for more than a decade and it 's still working. Quote
0119 Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 The Eon could have been the greatest reel of all time. What a series of great ideas, so poorly executed. Raul like your Shimano Bantam, I have my first Daiwa spinning reel, a silver series 5000. Ultra simple, super smooth and still running smoothly to this day having never needing a spare part since I bought it in 1976. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 7, 2010 Super User Posted December 7, 2010 The Eon could have been the greatest reel of all time. What a series of great ideas, so poorly executed. Man you do know the words, fantastic description, "great ideas excecuted poorly", gonna add that to my repertoire, can 't help it, my language is sometimes quite simple, I just say it 's POS. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted December 7, 2010 Super User Posted December 7, 2010 SYMETRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every time I use it in a heavy rain it stops working , so I just use it on sunny days. Quote
B-Dozer Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 My first baitcaster from around '87 was a Bantam, which was actually a decent reel for it's time.My affair with Shimano ended years ago after bail and binding issues with some of their spinning reels - Aeros and Saharas. The fact that they insisted there was no binding issues in spite of the fact people everywhere having the issue lost points with me. To be fair, they have shipped small parts to me at no charge when I needed them to complete repairs on a reel. Every company has a clunker in their lineup. After reading this I remembered I had a Shimano Bantam MagPlus 150X I bought new in the 80s? So today I put it on an old "clunker" rod I had around just for fun. That thing casted a mile with the mag turned to 0. No birdsnest either! Think it's going to be my new frog reel. Quote
Dockhead Posted December 8, 2010 Posted December 8, 2010 I had a Shimano Corsair that was horrible from day 2. I enjoy many Shimano products these days, but that was a bad experience. I actually was able to return it to the store since it had problems pretty much from the get-go. I don't think that reel was around for very long, so I assume I was not the only one who had troubles. Quote
Dave P Posted December 9, 2010 Posted December 9, 2010 Didn't they have one in the 80's or early 90's that had a flippin switch on it? It was either them or Diawa. At any rate it was a POS... Quote
B-Dozer Posted December 9, 2010 Posted December 9, 2010 Didn't they have one in the 80's or early 90's that had a flippin switch on it? It was either them or Diawa. At any rate it was a POS... yeah, they're not good for casting Dahlberg Divers. Quote
Dave P Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 I can tell you brother, it wasn't much good for casting anything after I took it apart trying to disable the stinking flippin' switch. I have taken many things apart in my lifetime, but that was one ***** to put back together. I finally dumpsterized it. ;D Quote
B-Dozer Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 I can tell you brother, it wasn't much good for casting anything after I took it apart trying to disable the stinking flippin' switch. I have taken many things apart in my lifetime, but that was one ***** to put back together. I finally dumpsterized it. ;D The trick is, you have to be smarter than what you're working with : Quote
Dave P Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 I can tell you brother, it wasn't much good for casting anything after I took it apart trying to disable the stinking flippin' switch. I have taken many things apart in my lifetime, but that was one ***** to put back together. I finally dumpsterized it. ;D The trick is, you have to be smarter than what you're working with : OH MY GOD!!! HA, HA, HA, you got me...I'm so freaking stupid I can't put a reel back together. It went into the dumpster AFTER I put it back together and used it for a couple of years. It never had half the performance of my Bantams. For some reason, I thought I'd re-activate the flippin' switch, so I took it apart again. Then I decided to throw it away... Quote
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