philsoreel Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I guess I can be labeled 100% hypocrite. Not long ago I told someone that I felt no need to try one of the more expensive braids, that PowerPro was perfectly fine to me. Well...... That was last week lol. A buddy talked me into trying Samurai yesterday and I have to say the difference is substantial. It's not loud or rough and is as soft as silk. However, I think it may be a little too soft. Right now I think it may be a little less sensitive than PP but time will tell. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted November 4, 2010 Super User Posted November 4, 2010 I guess I can be labeled 100% hypocrite. Not long ago I told someone that I felt no need to try one of the more expensive braids, that PowerPro was perfectly fine to me. Well......That was last week lol. A buddy talked me into trying Samurai yesterday and I have to say the difference is substantial. It's not loud or rough and is as soft as silk. However, I think it may be a little too soft. Right now I think it may be a little less sensitive than PP but time will tell. to soft was my opinion also.that's why i like fireline braid.it has more body to it.they are both excellent. Quote
WanderLust Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I guess I can be labeled 100% hypocrite. Not long ago I told someone that I felt no need to try one of the more expensive braids, that PowerPro was perfectly fine to me. Well......That was last week lol. A buddy talked me into trying Samurai yesterday and I have to say the difference is substantial. It's not loud or rough and is as soft as silk. However, I think it may be a little too soft. Right now I think it may be a little less sensitive than PP but time will tell. to soft was my opinion also.that's why i like fireline braid.it has more body to it.they are both excellent. Its way to soft for punching mats or salad fishin' but works awesome for everything else. Great line IMO. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted November 5, 2010 Super User Posted November 5, 2010 I like the "softness"..it will get a tad softer as it gets some use. I learned to adjust for it, as I'm sure you will to. The only downside, is fishing it in a stiff wind, if you need to make long cast's. Until some way better comes out, I'm staying with my Samuri.. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 5, 2010 Author Posted November 5, 2010 I got it in 40lb. because I like that diameter on my Core reels. I'm thinking about trying the 15lb. on my shakyhead spinning rig. Anyone know if they plan on coming out with something in the 6 to 8lb range? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted November 5, 2010 Super User Posted November 5, 2010 philsoreel, you won't like the 15# Samurai because it will not have much shock strength. That is why I switched from the 30# to 40# for finesse presentations. I doubt a 6# or 8# strength will be marketed. You can get that performance at any sewing thread supplier. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 Tackle Tour did a comparison evaluation of Toray, Samurai and Sufix Performance and Sufix came out a little ahead of the other two. Their test results are here: http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpremiumbraidrounduppg5.html Quote
northern basser Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 I've been wanting to try samurai for a while now. It will probably have to wait for spring now. The cabelas near me doesn't stock it and I never ordered any cause my spools were full. Went to cabelas yesterday and picked up another patriarch xt(still love that reel!!) and they had some suffix 832. My longtime friend and cabelas worker recommended I give it a try. Today I'll do that when a take my daughter out. Water temps are cold up here and this will be the last outing of the year in MN for me. I got the 40# 832. Since I've only used PP I'll start a thread later for the comparison. Has anyone used both Samurai and suffix 832? Quote
philsoreel Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 philsoreel, you won't like the 15# Samurai because it will not have much shock strength. That is why I switched from the 30# to 40# for finesse presentations.I doubt a 6# or 8# strength will be marketed. You can get that performance at any sewing thread supplier. 10lb. PowerPro with a FC leader for shakyhead is plenty strong. Yes, a good fish could break the braid but it hasn't happened yet. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted November 8, 2010 Super User Posted November 8, 2010 philsoreel, with Power Pro that is a true, BUT the Daiwa lines are label rated close to their actual breaking strength and most of the other superlines are not. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 philsoreel, with Power Pro that is a true, BUT the Daiwa lines are label rated close to their actual breaking strength and most of the other superlines are not. That was also my initial thought when I first touched Samurai. Hmmmmm reckon I'll just stick with the 40 and see how tough it is. I agree with SoFla about the punching. I think it may fray easily because it honestly feels like silk. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted November 8, 2010 Super User Posted November 8, 2010 phisoreel. I get the opportunity of fishing a lot for large bass in timber and each line I try gets a workout. I break off hunderds of time a year and the quality and strength of a line is very apparent under those conditions. The first Samurai I tried was the 30# rated and it was very apparent as compared to the other 30# rated superlines I was using such as Stren Superbraid, Power Pro, etc that it was not as strong. The Samurai is 6# mono equivelent diameter and the others are 8# mono equivelent diameter. I can break the Samurai quite easily in comparison and have never straighted out a hook like with the other lines. Now I just use the 30# for more open water situations and smaller potential fish. The 40# Samurai is the same diameter as the 30# rated other superlines. This is the stuff I fish the most and the known lake record largemouth is 16# 2 oz. Quote
philsoreel Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 Thank you. That's very helpful info. When I'm fishing in timber like that in your pic I have to know my line is gonna be there. Quote
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