BassFishingMachine Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Hey, just wanted to know when each of these hooks are best used? Ive heard a few people talking about using Offset Shank Worm Hooks on senkos, and I usually use EWG Hooks for them. So this makes me believe im not too sure on which each of these hooks should come into play. At the moment the only time I use Offset Shank Worm Hooks is on Super Flukes, or any soft jerbait for that matter. Can anyone tell me when is the right situation for each of these two hooks? I've also heard Offset Shank Worm Hooks have a better hook up ratio then EWGs ? Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 13, 2008 Super User Posted February 13, 2008 I like to use offset shank hooks with rubber type ribbon tail worms. I use EWG hooks with Senko type baits and Fat Ikas. As far as hookup ratios, I'm not sure how much difference it makes. Ronnie Quote
Super User Marty Posted February 13, 2008 Super User Posted February 13, 2008 An EWG is also an offset hook, so I think the comparison would be regular gap vs. wide gap. The bigger the plastic, the bigger the gap. My rule of thumb is that the gap should be at least double the diameter of the plastic so that there's enough gap left to get through the plastic and into the fish's jaw. Quote
CJ Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I like to use offset shank hooks with rubber type ribbon tail worms. I use EWG hooks with Senko type baits and Fat Ikas. As far as hookup ratios, I'm not sure how much difference it makes.Ronnie I use a offset worm hook for ribbon tail worms too. I believe I get better hook ups and less fish lost with regular gap worm hooks.A fish has less room to shake a reg. gap hook,IMO. I use EWG hooks on senkos and finesse worms to get a shorter shank per gap diameter.The shorter the shank,the better the action on senkos and finesse worms.It frees up more of the tail when t-rigging. ;)JMO CJ Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but by offset shank hook do you mean that hook point and the shoulder are not directly in line, and by EWG do you mean the hook point and the shoulder are directly in line? IMO, the first kind of hook is better if you're going to be flipping heavy cover with the whole hook point embedded in the plastic, because the point is pointing more directly outwards so it can pierce the plastic and the fish's mouth more effectively. If you used the second kind of hook and totally embedded the point, it would be pointing straight forward instead of a little outwards so it's not quite as effective at piercing through the plastic. But when fishing near cover instead of in the thick of it, I like to t-rig plastics with the second type of hook and with the point exposed. I think you get less twist that way and it's nice to have the hook point parallel to the bait, especially for senkos. Some people use straight shank hooks (no shoulder) for flipping, which seems effective, but I've never been comfortable doing it. Anyone use straight shank hooks? Quote
Davis Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Tony I use EWG a lot. But I never totally embed it in the plastic. I always fish it tex-posed. With the point resting on top of the plastic. When I want to embed it in the plastic than I go to a regular offset hook. Quote
Guest avid Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Recently i have switched to regular offset worm hooks (thankx steveP) and noticed a marked improvement in my ability to land fish. I use owner riggin hooks...a very wide "fat gap" type bend for thick bodied plastics like horny toads and tubes. Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 13, 2008 Super User Posted February 13, 2008 I use straight shank hooks because I stick more fish than either offset or EWG Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 Offset Shank Worm Hook Vs. EWG HookI'm confused...can you point me to an "EWG hook" that doesn't have an "offset-shank"?Roger Quote
Super User Alpster Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 Offset Shank Worm Hook Vs. EWG HookI'm confused...can you point me to an "EWG hook" that doesn't have an "offset-shank"?Roger Roger, I think we are at a loss for a proper term for a offset shank hook that is NOT EWG. LOL You know, a good old fashioned worm hook. I am betting that you will have one. Ronnie Quote
CJ Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 The title is "Offset ShankWorm Hook Vs. EWG Hook Quote
BassFishingMachine Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 Hmm, im not sure on the titles of each hook, but I'll clear out what I mean. By Offset Shank Worm Hook I mean: http://www.gamakatsu.com/catalog/gif/worm_42.gif And by EWG Hook, I Mean http://img.***.com/ProductImages/GOSWG.JPG I now see that they are both titled as offset my mistake . But by the "Offset Shank Worm Hook" I was refering to a "J" type weedless hook. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 Offset Shank Worm Hook Vs. EWG HookI'm confused...can you point me to an "EWG hook" that doesn't have an "offset-shank"?Roger Roger, I think we are at a loss for a proper term for a offset shank hook that is NOT EWG. LOL You know, a good old fashioned worm hook. I am betting that you will have one. Ronnie There are two genre of "offset hooks": Offset-Point (left or right) and Offset-Shank (used for plastic trailers but not necessarily worms). I am unaware of any "extra-wide gap" hook that does not also have an "offset-shank" (save a double frog hook). So are you saying that it's possible for someone to prefer offset-shank hooks versus EWG hooks? Quote
Micropterus salmoides Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Have any of you used the GYCB Sugoi Wide Gap Offset Shank for Senkos? Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 14, 2008 Super User Posted February 14, 2008 Hmm, im not sure on the titles of each hook, but I'll clear out what I mean. By Offset Shank Worm Hook I mean: http://www.gamakatsu.com/catalog/gif/worm_42.gifAnd by EWG Hook, I Mean http://img.***.com/ProductImages/GOSWG.JPG I now see that they are both titled as offset my mistake . But by the "Offset Shank Worm Hook" I was refering to a "J" type weedless hook. Now that's an excellent question. Actually, I'm currently anguishing over the answer to that question myself. I've used the EWG-bend for years because the point is in the line-of-pull. Lately though, I've been leaning more in favor of round-bend hooks. It seems that they offer more trailer space, and may get a better bite on the bass. But you will notice that the point of the J-hook is above the line-of-pull (not a good thing). Roger Quote
Davis Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Have any of you used the GYCB Sugoi Wide Gap Offset Shank for Senkos? I have. Just like a Gammy IMO. They work well but now that I have Owners in my bag I don't really used them anymore. They come with some glass beads though. Quote
jdw174 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I use straight shank hooks because I stick more fish than either offset or EWG I personally prefer the straight shank for most of my worm fishing. I use the EWG hooks for Senko's, Flukes, etc. Quote
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