Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 18, 2010 Super User Posted August 18, 2010 for all those that thought power pro , suffix , diawa samuri and fireline braids were the best offerings , take a look at Cortland's master braid ! i know Dodgeguy is going to be mad , but his fireline 8 strand/carrier braid is a little behind on technology , Cortlands braid is 12 strand/carrier !!!! it is a little stiffer than most braids , but when the wind is blowing , you will appreciate it cause you will not get wind knots like diawas samuri braid , personally i hate soft braid and that is the time i change my braid out for new line is when it does get too soft . and in case your thinking i'm sponsored by cortland , i wish !!! but NO, i am not or for that matter any other company !!! so give it a try , you might just find your new favorite braid , i did they finally have it for sale at tackle warehouse http://www.***.com/Cortland_Masterbraid/descpage-CMSTBRD.html and another thing , their 50 lb. line has an 8 lb. dia. , yes even smalller diameter than samurai ( their 40 lb. is of 8 lb. dia.) Quote
SJB1226 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 wow priced very well to! Dont go by pound test to judge line Dia.. what Daiwa calls 8# Dia might not be what they call 8# Dia. Daiwa is crazy thin and the only braid I will use however I will try this it looks good. If its thinner then Daiwa then its just to thin to handle abrasion well... Thats Daiwas only down fall its not the most abrasion resistant braid there is and thats because its so thin and if this is thinner with will have that same problem and even worse. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 18, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 18, 2010 Cortland also is the strongest braid on the market , period ....... that is not opinion , that is fact Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted August 18, 2010 Super User Posted August 18, 2010 Pass the popcorn please. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 18, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 18, 2010 Pass the popcorn please. : Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted August 19, 2010 Super User Posted August 19, 2010 All I have on my Calcutta 400's and Trinidads for muskies. I have one 301 swimbait rod with 65 on it. I dig it a lot. Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Is cortland smooth to the touch like Daiwa Samurai? Would it make noise in recoil guides? The samurai is silky smooth and casts ridiculously far and makes no noise. I'm using on spinning gear and I love it. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 19, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2010 Is cortland smooth to the touch like Daiwa Samurai? Would it make noise in recoil guides? The samurai is silky smooth and casts ridiculously far and makes no noise. I'm using on spinning gear and I love it. it is a stiffer braid , almost like how power pro is when it is new . softer lines are more susceptible to wind knots and tip wrap . this line is a VERY compact line , it is a 12 carrier braid !! here is the description from Tackle warehouse - Utilizing nearly 100 years of braiding experience and technology, Cortland Line introduces the next generation of premium super braid - Cortland Master Braid. With only 4% stretch, a small diameter pound/test ratio and a unique hydrophobic coating, Master Braid slices through the water and comes back dry. Constructed using all the best features of Cortland's legendary Spectron braided line, it includes a unique coating that makes it permanently stiff, and is also rounder than other braided lines - which means less twist, greater accuracy and longer casts. In addition, Cortland Master Braid features a proprietary Cortland process that permanently bonds the color and finish to the fibers of the braid, eliminating the fading and flaking so common with competitive braided lines. A great option for spinning and casting reels. Equiv. Mono dia. 30/6lb , 50/8lb , 65/15lb , 80/18lb Quote
Senkoman12 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 the factory where cortland rods and line is about 2 hours from my house, i have never used any of their products but i heard their fly rods are very good Quote
Jake. Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 and another thing , their 50 lb. line has an 8 lb. dia. , yes even smalller diameter than samurai ( their 40 lb. is of 8 lb. dia.) This doesn't mean it's thinner. What Daiwa considers an average 8 lb. diameter line is probably different than what Cortland considers as an average 8 lb. diameter line. It may be thinner, but it will be hard to tell since Cortland doesn't provide the actual diameter of the braid. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Instead of saying it is like 8 lb. Mono, what is the actual diameter? Quote
Super User Dan: Posted August 19, 2010 Super User Posted August 19, 2010 Why don't you guys like soft braid? I like braids that are soft. We aim to have soft mono, why does that change with braid? Quote
SJB1226 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 and another thing , their 50 lb. line has an 8 lb. dia. , yes even smalller diameter than samurai ( their 40 lb. is of 8 lb. dia.) This doesn't mean it's thinner. What Daiwa considers an average 8 lb. diameter line is probably different than what Cortland considers as an average 8 lb. diameter line. It may be thinner, but it will be hard to tell since Cortland doesn't provide the actual diameter of the braid. thats what I said lol... I have looked all over for the Dia. so that LB test doesnt mean anything to me... Im gonna order a spool and play with it and see what its all about. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted August 19, 2010 Super User Posted August 19, 2010 Why don't you guys like soft braid? I like braids that are soft. We aim to have soft mono, why does that change with braid? i think any advancement in braid is great.12 carrier does not always mean smoother.i would like to feel some of it.12 carrier does not also mean rounder.if it is smoother and round and does not digg then it would be awesome.stiffer is better.no mono is as soft as braid.the stiffest braid is still limper than any mono.stiffer braids will wind knot less than limper braids.they will also backlash less at the start of a cast. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 19, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2010 Why don't you guys like soft braid? I like braids that are soft. We aim to have soft mono, why does that change with braid? i think any advancement in braid is great.12 carrier does not always mean smoother.i would like to feel some of it.12 carrier does not also mean rounder.if it is smoother and round and does not digg then it would be awesome.stiffer is better.no mono is as soft as braid.the stiffest braid is still limper than any mono.stiffer braids will wind knot less than limper braids.they will also backlash less at the start of a cast. that statement is right on the money !!! , exactly why this braid is very user friendly !! here is pictures of this braid magnified , http://saltyshores.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MasterBraid-a-picture-is-worth-75000-words1.pdf , just to see how it will stay smooth and will cast very good . dang , i sound like a salesman ;D really i have no relation to this company !!! Quote
Super User Dan: Posted August 19, 2010 Super User Posted August 19, 2010 I guess I've just never had that many issues with wind knots. The only time I get them is when I'm using really, really light braid on an UL Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 19, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2010 i just got off the phone with the Cortland company , they will give me all the true specs and i will post them here . there is some irregularity as to the true specs since they have made some changes . the real specs have these lines as VERY round ( 12 carriers/strand) and alot thinner than most all the brands we have been using , will post back soon Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted August 19, 2010 Super User Posted August 19, 2010 This braid sounds pretty interesting..will look for the spec's. thanks for postin this up.. 8-) Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 i just got off the phone with the Cortland company , they will give me all the true specs and i will post them here . there is some irregularity as to the true specs since they have made some changes . the real specs have these lines as VERY round ( 12 carriers/strand) and alot thinner than most all the brands we have been using , will post back soon I believe what you're saying but you need to realize that the Daiwa Samurai Braid is ridiculously thin. Its almost too thin really. The "measurements" on the box are completely off and when I buy it I always buy a much higher lb test to compensate for that. Also thinner isn't necessarily better. As you know, for casting gear you "need" a certain amount of thickness. Anyway I'm sure its quality stuff. Let us know when you actually fish it. I'm interested in how it handles, though I've never had tip wrap problems with daiwa samurai. Quote
bigtimfish Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 The only color it comes in is bronze? I need green. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 20, 2010 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2010 The only color it comes in is bronze? I need green. it comes in green , yellow and bronze brown . the brown is all they are offering at *** . Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted August 20, 2010 Super User Posted August 20, 2010 The only color it comes in is bronze? I need green. it comes in green , yellow and bronze brown . the brown is all they are offering at *** . Did you happen to ask if any other retailers carry green or hi vis yellow..? Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted August 20, 2010 Super User Posted August 20, 2010 I guess I've just never had that many issues with wind knots. The only time I get them is when I'm using really, really light braid on an UL That is because you have learned to use your thumb on a baitcaster. Limp braid for me, all the way. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted August 20, 2010 Super User Posted August 20, 2010 Love me some PowerPro. i bet you still chip wheels out of stone. Quote
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