done with yo zuri hybrid, any recommendations?

[tyrius.]

Switch lines if you want, but if you don't start landing fish correctly then you're going to be dissappointed in a LOT of different lines.

[BlaineFred]

I work in the tower climbing industry and during osha training we are taught that a 200lb man falling 6' creates 2000 (yes a ton!) of force.

When that 5+ fish flops he can approach double his weight in force. Combine that with the limited amount of stretch available on the few feet of line you have out, and you are not just going to break your line on a larger fish but you will also break a high graphite content rod quickly also.

Yozuri Hybrid is among the best lines available. I have used it for 4 years fishing some honey hole farm ponds with over 100 fish over 6lbs and HAVENT BROKEN IT YET (in #10).

Agree with this assessment....for more info, there was a thread on another site on Yozuir Hybrid (not the soft version) that showed that it's strength was more than the test, by around 20%...thus 10 lb test broke at 12 lb, etc.

[dave]

Wait, so you were swinging a 5lb fish into a canoe and the line broke? If that is the case, then I have to ask why you were swinging a 5lb fish instead of lipping it at the water level.

My first thought.

[zerofivenismo]

Yeah idk why I did the swinging thing, I guess I just wanted the fish off the water so it didn't get away.

Cause the Elite guys do it and it looks cool.  Any fish more than 2lbs gets gripped by the lip. 

[burce]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

[HopelesslyAddicted]

Try this knot:

It is the Eye-Crosser which is really just an improved Uni-knot.  One of the best possible knots you can tie for co-polymers and it is quick and easy once you get it.  Just practice it ten or so times before you go out on the field with it and you won't have anymore knot problems.  The key to tying it easily is holding the loop between your thumb and forefinger to wrap it properly.

[zero]

get stren orginal or stren flurocarbon or xps fc or trilene fc had no plms with those lines i am done with hybrid and ultrasoft

because they are really visble in clear water so i hate them and i keep on losing fish on those line

[Grey Wolf]

get stren orginal or stren flurocarbon or xps fc or trilene fc had no plms with those lines i am done with hybrid and ultrasoft

because they are really visble in clear water so i hate them and i keep on losing fish on those line

Operator error possibly.

[skunked_again]

get stren orginal or stren flurocarbon or xps fc or trilene fc had no plms with those lines i am done with hybrid and ultrasoft

because they are really visble in clear water so i hate them and i keep on losing fish on those line

multi-tap cell phone post?

[ww2farmer]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

[burce]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

[BassThumb]

I agree with the first two guys. Your lure broke because you didn't hand grab the fish and instead you tried to swing the fish into the boat and obviously your line would snap expecially 6# test. If you like to swing your fish into the boat then upsize your line. I'm a big fan of yo-zuri hybrid and will take it over many other types of lines anyday.

This is what I was thinking.  You can't lift 5 and 6 lb. fish with 6# line.

[grimlin]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

 

;D @ hammer comment....

I use 6# test yo zuri ultra soft myself...no problems here.

[Scorcher214]

Your using #6 test and 6lb-ish bass breaks off? seems like you need stronger line? Doesn't sound like a line quality problem. I use #12 on my BC and its the best. I've pulled in pike, bass, and a 25lb carp on #12 line.

[Grey Wolf]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

In other words you think it was equipment failure and not your ability that caused your problem ?

[Steve1357]

Get you some Berkley BigGame, 10# or 12#.

Change it before each trip.

Learn how to tie better knots. Try the Trliene knot, same as a clinch, just add an extra pass through the eye.

A 6# fish flopping generates more than 6# of leverage. I use to break rods picking fish out of the water, you're lucky it was only your line.

Have fun.

http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/index.php?Categ=fishing&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

[TrippyJai]

Keep working at the Palomar knot. I use this knot for everything and it has never failed me. Losing 6-8" ain't so bad. Eventually you'll get better in time.

Just stop swinging the fish into the boat and set your drag properly and the only way you'll lose a fish is from a bad hook set.

[burce]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

In other words you think it was equipment failure and not your ability that caused your problem ?

The fact is, I have never had issues with my line breaking until I switched to this line recently, and I obviously have been landing my fish the same way, on the same knot and have caught big fish doing so (like the one in my avi at over 6lbs). I've already said it may be the clinch weakening the line due to improper lubrication or whatever. I'm just trying not to lose more fish.

Leave my thread if you're just looking to start trouble and not contribute anything, I'm not here to argue with you about stupid stuff, especially when you're obviously just trying to start trouble

[Nibbles]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

In other words you think it was equipment failure and not your ability that caused your problem ?

The fact is, I have never had issues with my line breaking until I switched to this line recently, and I obviously have been landing my fish the same way, on the same knot and have caught big fish doing so (like the one in my avi at over 6lbs). I've already said it may be the clinch weakening the line due to improper lubrication or whatever. I'm just trying not to lose more fish.

Leave my thread if you're just looking to start trouble and not contribute anything, I'm not here to argue with you about stupid stuff, especially when you're obviously just trying to start trouble

So you were using 6# test of some other brand, and landing your fish this way?

Perhaps you lucked out and the fish in your avvie didn't struggle like a maniac while dangling.

[burce]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

In other words you think it was equipment failure and not your ability that caused your problem ?

The fact is, I have never had issues with my line breaking until I switched to this line recently, and I obviously have been landing my fish the same way, on the same knot and have caught big fish doing so (like the one in my avi at over 6lbs). I've already said it may be the clinch weakening the line due to improper lubrication or whatever. I'm just trying not to lose more fish.

Leave my thread if you're just looking to start trouble and not contribute anything, I'm not here to argue with you about stupid stuff, especially when you're obviously just trying to start trouble

So you were using 6# test of some other brand, and landing your fish this way?

Perhaps you lucked out and the fish in your avvie didn't struggle like a maniac while dangling.

No, I believe my last line was 10# mono, but the hybrid is supposed to have a breaking strength of about 12lbs.

[Grey Wolf]

I tried using other knots and I realllly suck at them. Tried the palomar, san diego jam and uni and have a lot of trouble tying them. Maybe it's just the site that showed me and I need a video but I'm awful haha.

With the palomar I always have way too much tag end and end up wasting like 6-8" of line. If I don't have that much at the end I can't tie the loop

Sooooooo................you suck at tying knots, and do a poor job of landing fish. Must be the lines fault, and probably the rod, and the reels drag too, but definitely not yours : :-X

In all seriousness, learn from your mistakes. It is very frustrating to lose big fish, and very tempting to blame equipment. Personally I don't like YZ line either, but not for the same reasons. I actually found it to be extremely strong.......almost to a fault. When you hit your thumb with a hammer don't blame the hammer.

Well I've always used the improved clinch and have never had a problem until switching to this line, but perhaps thats because it's a lighter test than I am used to

In other words you think it was equipment failure and not your ability that caused your problem ?

The fact is, I have never had issues with my line breaking until I switched to this line recently, and I obviously have been landing my fish the same way, on the same knot and have caught big fish doing so (like the one in my avi at over 6lbs). I've already said it may be the clinch weakening the line due to improper lubrication or whatever. I'm just trying not to lose more fish.

Leave my thread if you're just looking to start trouble and not contribute anything, I'm not here to argue with you about stupid stuff, especially when you're obviously just trying to start trouble

So you were using 6# test of some other brand, and landing your fish this way?

Perhaps you lucked out and the fish in your avvie didn't struggle like a maniac while dangling.

No, I believe my last line was 10# mono, but the hybrid is supposed to have a breaking strength of about 12lbs.

Sorry but it really is operator error.

[flippin and pitchin]

If you aren't happy, don't have confidence in YoZuri line, switch to another brand.  If you don't ever swing another 5 to 6 pound fish after reading the prior posts, so you don't break off that brand as well, you don't really have the evidence to blame the line.  A guy walked in to my local tackel dealer with a spool of YZ #8 and made the statement he was using it for leaders on salmon rigs and broke off 6 fish in a row. They gave him a refund.  I bought the remainder of the spool for a reduced price.  I bent wire hooks on my tube jig heads trying to break them off when stagged up.  It wasn't the lines fault it was the application. Just a thought.