burce Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I'm very angry/upset over tonights fishing trip. I recently switched to yo zuri hybrid 6# test line and was fishing tonight with topwaters. Got a huge hit on a hula popper and pulled in a monster 6ish lb bass. I was holding him above water (was wading) and tried to grab his lip and he flopped a little and the line broke and he swam away with my hula popper in his mouth. :-[ About a week ago, I had a 5lb smallie that broke off RIGHT as I lifted him into the canoe I was in. I'm tired of this happening since I just lost a beautiful fish (second biggest lmb I've ever caught) and am getting rid of the yo-zuri. Can anyone recommend me some solid line that won't break this easily? Yo-zuri says their 6lb test has a breaking strength around 12lbs and let me tell you this fish was no more than 7lbs. This is the reason I don't want to just up the test of the yo-zuri, since theres no way the fish was near 12lbs Also, does anyone else get this upset over losing a big fish? It really sucks and I'm feeling terrible about it still Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 fast line shock. id got up a few lbs in line weight and switch to ultra soft. edit: is the line really at fault? Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 P-Line CXX is my choice. Treat it with KVD Line and Lure and you're good to go. Quote
BlaineFred Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I have used the Yozuri Hybrid without any problems... I have read bad reports on the soft hybrid. What hybrid were you using??? Quote
burce Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 I have used the Yozuri Hybrid without any problems...I have read bad reports on the soft hybrid. What hybrid were you using??? The normal hybrid. I use an improved clinch knot and maybe its that somehow but id rather change lines and be safe rather than sorry with another lost lunker. I've heard good things about the xps lines, what do y'all think? Quote
HopelesslyAddicted Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Honestly dude I use 6# Yozuri Ultra Soft and that's probably slightly weaker than what you're using. I caught a 25 lb snapping turtle with it so I REALLY don't think that your regular 6# hybrid is too weak for bass, it breaks at around 12 lbs! I have never broken off like you are describing, but I compulsively check my line for nicks or anything of the sort. Perhaps you had a little nick? I would really give it another shot because at least it pulled in that 6lber for you. You can always go up in # test if you really want stronger line. My suggestion would be to go up to whatever # your reel can handle, except maybe try Ultrasoft. So then maybe you can get the best of both worlds, more manageability and more strength. I have searched for the strongest co-polymers around and the only reasonably priced line that has a comparable or better strength to diameter ratio is P-line CXX. So I would stick with it personally but if you really want to change, try CXX. I used to use the improved clinch all the time but have since switched to the Eye Crosser after a little research. The eye-crosser is better, but I never had any problem with the improved clinch though! By the way I'm here in CT where you catching those 6lbers? Quote
Vinny Chase Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I agree with everyone else that you should give it another shot. I'm switching lines from #8 hybrid but not because of the strength, in fact i was surprised when the strength of this line came into question.....Maybe try a palomar? Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 I use at least 10lb YZ on spinning , 12lb on casting Quote
burce Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 I use at least 10lb YZ on spinning , 12lb on casting I had the urge to get a higher test when I got the 6# hybrid, but decided against it since I was told the 6# had great managability. I'll give the hybrid more chances and see how it goes. What I'm thinking now, is that the way I tie the improved clench is weakening the line as I pull the knot tight. I'll try out some different knots, thanks everyone Quote
Big Tom Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Give the palomar a try. Its pretty freakin' strong. Just give it a healthy coating of spit before you cinch it. Quote
Vinny Chase Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Give the palomar a try. Its pretty freakin' strong.Just give it a healthy coating of spit before you cinch it. This will solve your problem Quote
Super User Dan: Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 Wait, so you were swinging a 5lb fish into a canoe and the line broke? If that is the case, then I have to ask why you were swinging a 5lb fish instead of lipping it at the water level. Quote
hmongkidBee Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I agree with the first two guys. Your lure broke because you didn't hand grab the fish and instead you tried to swing the fish into the boat and obviously your line would snap expecially 6# test. If you like to swing your fish into the boat then upsize your line. I'm a big fan of yo-zuri hybrid and will take it over many other types of lines anyday. Quote
Nibbles Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 A 7# fish does not generate only 7# of downward force when hes dangling on something while struggling. Sort of like how a 140# man registers more than 140# if he jumps onto the scale and stomps down hard instead of just stepping on it. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 to me Yo-zuri is trash , go with 6 lb. P-line CXX ........ Quote
burce Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Yeah idk why I did the swinging thing, I guess I just wanted the fish off the water so it didn't get away. Ill remember to lip it out of the water next time, thanks guys Quote
bigfruits Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Wait, so you were swinging a 5lb fish into a canoe and the line broke? If that is the case, then I have to ask why you were swinging a 5lb fish instead of lipping it at the water level. when a 5lb fish is out of the water and does a head shake, hes putting off alot more than 6lbs of pressure. Quote
MaxumBass Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I try many lines on recommendations from people on this board and others and always end up coming back to Yo-Zuri hybred. Works for me. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 It's not your line. Learn on how to land a fish correctly , you sure aren't doing it right. Quote
lightsout Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I work in the tower climbing industry and during osha training we are taught that a 200lb man falling 6' creates 2000 (yes a ton!) of force. When that 5+ fish flops he can approach double his weight in force. Combine that with the limited amount of stretch available on the few feet of line you have out, and you are not just going to break your line on a larger fish but you will also break a high graphite content rod quickly also. Yozuri Hybrid is among the best lines available. I have used it for 4 years fishing some honey hole farm ponds with over 100 fish over 6lbs and HAVENT BROKEN IT YET (in #10). Quote
Nice_Bass Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I agree with the first two guys. Your lure broke because you didn't hand grab the fish and instead you tried to swing the fish into the boat and obviously your line would snap expecially 6# test. If you like to swing your fish into the boat then upsize your line. I'm a big fan of yo-zuri hybrid and will take it over many other types of lines anyday. X4 I would never swing a 5# fish in the boat unless i had some braid in the 30# plus range, and really, i would never swing a 5# fish at all. Also, realize that line test strength is at a constant pressure, when a fish thrashes it increases the weight (read tension) put on the line. Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I'm not really a fan of copoly or flouro for topwater presentations. Especially such small test. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted August 6, 2010 Super User Posted August 6, 2010 Earlier in this thread I recommended CXX. I have used both CXX and YZ Hybrid this year and I like the CXX better. With that said, I still have 6# YZ on both of my spinning reels. I have caught several good fish without problems. My issue with YZ is not strength, just manageability. Quote
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